John Willis

Profound

Business EN ↓ 96 episodes

Ramblings about W. Edwards Deming in the digital transformation era. The general idea of the podcast is derived from Dr. Demming's seminal work described in his New Economics book - System of Profound Knowledge ( SoPK ). We'll try and get a mix of interviews from IT, Healthcare, and Manufacturing with the goal of aligning these ideas with Digital Transformation possibilities. Everything related to Dr. Deming's ideas is on the table (e.g., Goldratt, C.I. Lewis, Ohno, Shingo, Lean, Agile, and DevOps). 

Author

John Willis

Category

Business

Podcast website

profound.buzzsprout.com

Latest episode

Jun 10, 2026

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Episodes

Profound - Dr Deming - Episode 21- Steve Pereira - The Flow Collective 01.11.2021

Steve and I talk about early DevOpsDays, Value Streams, Flow, Systems Thinking and of course Dr. Deming. Give talks about his thought about Dr. Deming's System of Profound Knowledge. We cover a lot of ground in this podcast.  I'm sure you will enjoy it.  You can find a link to all of the cool things Steve is working on here:  https://vzbl.io/links

Profound - Dr Deming - Episode 20 - John Waraniak - Deming and Autonomous Indy 12.10.2021

John Waraniak is my guest in this episode. John has over 25 years of experience in automotive, motorsports, aerospace, and consumer products. He has extensive experience in vehicle systems engineering, motorsports program management, and lean product development. When he was at General Motors, John worked directly with Dr. Deming. In addition, he studied under Peter Senge. This is a great intervie...

Profound - Dr Deming - Episode 19 - Mark Burgess - Deming and Semantic Spacetime 09.10.2021

In this episode, I'm joined by Mark Burgess. Mark founded CFEngine, Promise Theory, and Infrastructure as Code. Mark holds a Ph. D. in physics. He is an author of several books, including one of my favorites, "In Search of Certainty." He has been working on a project called the Semantic Spacetime Project for over a decade. I've known Mark for almost a decade now, and we always...

Profound - Dr. Deming - Episode 18 - Glenn Wilson - DevSecOps and Deming 04.10.2021

In this episode I catchup with the author of the "DevSecOps: A leader’s guide to producing secure software without compromising flow, feedback and continuous improvement" book., Glenn Wilson.  Glenn is an active participant in the DevOps and DevSecOps communities.  He is also an emerging student of Dr. Deming.  We talk about Glenn's Deming journey as well as how DevSecOps and Dr. De...

Profound - Dr. Deming - Episode 17 - Botchagalupe - Deming Aha Moments 23.09.2021

In this podcast, I just go off on a tangent about my Deming ideas. I've been listening to some old Deming podcasts where everyone is asked what was their aha moment when they learned about Deming. In an interview with Bob Brown, CEO of Great Plains Coca Cola Bottling Company, he remarked that he has never had a single aha moment in his life, it was a journey for him. I concur with myself; thi...

Profound - Dr. Deming - Episode 16 - Dennis Schlagheck - Hawthorne Works 18.08.2021

Dennis Schlagheck is the author of a book about Hawthorne Works ( https://bit.ly/37UGQoH ). We discuss all things related to the Western Electric Hawthorne factory.  For those Deming geeks, this is where Dr. Deming spent two summers interning while he was in college.  It's also where Walter Shewhart invented Statistical Process Control.  Hawthorne was sort of like a modern-day Apple or Xerox...

Profound - Dr. Deming - Episode 15 - Carmen DeArdo - Red Bead Bell 27.07.2021

Great conversation with Carmen DeArdo. Carmen actually attended some of Deming’s lectures in the 1980’s when he worked for Bell Labs. He also discusses how he used Dr. Deming ideas in large insurance companies. 

Profound - Dr. Deming - Episode 13 - Elisabeth Hendrickson - Test Obsessed 23.07.2021

I love doing podcasts with people I really like.  A few years back I wrote an Introduction to DevOps course for edX and found Elisabeth Hendrickson's work testing extremely helpful.  Since then I've been a big fan of her work.  We talked about her career in systems and testing and some of the new stuff she is working on.  Hope you enjoy it.

Profound - Dr. Deming - Episode 14 - Harper Reed - Obama's Narwhal 23.07.2021

Harper Reed was the CTO of the Obama campaign.  We talked about how he wound up as the CTO. We also talked about how they employed a lot of Agile and DevOps during the campaign.  This is another great podcast. 

Profound - Dr. Deming - Episode 12 - Kevin Behr - A Humble Student (Part 2) 15.07.2021

This is part 2 of my Keven Behr interview.  We continue the discussion on Deming and Toyota.  We also go a little deep into the Theory of Constraints and Goldratt's work. 

Profound - Dr. Deming - Episode 11 - Kevin Behr - A Humble Student (Part 1) 14.07.2021

In this podcast, I get to chat with Kevin Behr (co-author of The Phoenix Project).   We discuss Deming's influence on Japan and modern commerce.  Kevin has an interesting perspective on Toyota and Japanese culture.  We also talk about the concept of a "Humble Student" and why Deming's message might have penetrated deeply as part of the Miracle in Japan. 

Profound - Dr. Deming - Episode 10 - Josh Corman - Captain America 25.06.2021

In this episode, Josh and I discuss the history of sBOM's, Deming and Goldratt's influence on software supply chain as well as COVID's Operation Warp Speed.  I always say I'm a passionate person about IT, Josh is a passionate person about saving lives.  This is a fantastic episode. 

Profound - Dr. Deming - Episode 9 - Courtney Kissler - Leadership 101 21.06.2021

Courtney Kissler is one of the pioneers in DevOps Enterprise leadership.  Starting back at her days at Nordstrom. Some of my favorite stories in the DevOps Handbook are based on some of Courtney's experiences.  We cover the gambit on topics related to Deming, Rother, Goldratt, and Hosen Kanari.  My fanboy comes out pretty hard in this episode. I think Courtney is a great example of a true lea...

Profound - Dr. Deming - Episode 8 - Dr. Steven Spear - High Velocity Edge (part 2) 16.06.2021

We finish up the second part of my conversation with Dr. Spear. 

Profound - Dr. Deming - Episode 7 - Dr. Steven Spear - High Velocity Edge (Part 1) 07.06.2021

This is a part 1 podcast.  The second podcast will be posted in a few weeks. (sorry for the abrupt ending). This a podcast I did about a year ago in a different portal.  I am a huge fan of Dr. Spear.  I always say that there are only two books to read when it comes to Lean. Mike Rother’s Toyota Kata and Dr. Spear, High Velocity Edge.  Dr. Spear is one of my favorite DevOps Enterprise Summit speake...

Profound - Dr. Deming - Episode 6 - George Dekker - Deming to Goldratt 26.05.2021

Had a great time talking with George about all things Deming and Goldratt. It went a little long but we kept bringing up new and cool ideas.  George is a great industry student of Deming's work, lean, and Theory of Constraints.  Hope you enjoy it!

Profound - Dr Deming - Episode 5 - Jeffrey Fredrick Agile Conversations 17.05.2021

Another great conversation with Jeffrey Fredrick author of Agile Conversations.  We cover his background and his views on Deming, Agile and Lean.  

Profound - Dr Deming - Episode 4 - Mary and Tom Poppendieck 08.05.2021

Mary and Tom are instrumental figures on the path I call "Deming to Devops". We discuss their journey from lean to their modern-day thought leadership roles.  Chatting with Mary and Tom about Dr. Deming... it doesn't get any better than this. 

Profound - Dr Deming - Episode 1 - Introduction 27.04.2021

Introduction to the new Profound podcast.  This is podcast focuses on topics related to Dr. Deming.

Profound - Dr Deming - Episode 2 - Ben Rockwood 27.04.2021

In this episode, I chat with my old friend Ben Rockwood.  Ben introduced me to Dr. Deming at an early Devopsdays.  Ben is a real student in this field and I am sure you will enjoy this podcast.

Profound - Dr Deming - Episode 3 -Doris Quinn 27.04.2021

In this episode, I have an amazing conversation with Dr. Doris Quinn.  Doris has a fascinating story about how she met Dr. Deming and all traveled with him in the last few years of his life. We also discuss Doris's amazing career from nurse to leading to a Ph. D. in process improvement and quality education and one of the leading industry healthcare quality leaders.

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