Practicing Hope Podcast

In the first episode of our new segment, Systems and Shifts, Rev. Jess Shults and Rev. Jeffrey Munroe talk about the challenges leaders face when their personal beliefs change, but their jobs and organizations expect them to stay the same. They discuss why these internal conflicts happen and share advice on how to handle them wisely, especially when personal growth or changes in faith don't match...

In a world that relentlessly pushes leaders to do more and move faster, the act of slowing down feels like a luxury we can't afford. But in this episode, we explore why it's not only necessary — it's essential to our spiritual and emotional flourishing. Rev. Dr. Tanner Smith and Pastor Chase Rashad Stancle share practical ways to rest, reflect, and connect more deeply with God. They offer simple i...

In this episode of The Practicing Hope Podcast , Pastor Kim DeLong joins host Jenny Steele to dive into her transformative experience with the Leap of Faith movie. Through her work with the Colossian Forum, Kim learned to see conflict not as something to fear, but as a powerful tool for deeper understanding. Kim also shares the incredible story of her church's journey through financial hardship, u...

What does true leadership in a polarized world look like? In this episode of the Practicing Hope podcast, Jenny Steele sits down with Pastor James Stokes whose influence in Grand Rapids, Michigan spans from the pulpit to community activism. Listen in as Pastor Stokes reveals how his experiences, from navigating societal and institutional shifts to participating in groundbreaking projects like the...

In this episode on the Practicing Hope Podcast, Jenny Steele sits down with Pastor Andrew Vanover, a participant in the Leap of Faith movie. As the pastor of Thornapple Covenant Church in Grand Rapids, Michigan, Andrew shares a powerful and honest look into his journey through the challenges of leading during a global pandemic, navigating church polarization, and enduring significant staff changes...

What do you do when the way you worship becomes a point of division? In this episode of Pastors Anonymous, hosts Jenny Steele and Jess Shults tackle two key challenges church leaders face: managing tensions around church renovations and creating inclusive worship experiences. They offer practical insights for leaders on balancing tradition and change in ways that respect sacred spaces and diverse...

In this episode of Leap of Faith Movie Conversations, Rev. Tierra Marshall and Jenny Steele talk about the central role of friendship in Tierra's life, both inside and outside the church, and how it informs her pastoral leadership. She explains how themes of vulnerability and genuine care played out during the filming process of Leap of Faith and recounts her memorable discussions with fellow past...

In a culture that demands certainty—especially in the public sphere of social media and ministry—Pastor Troy Hatfiled talks with Ashlee Eiland in today's episode of Leap of Faith Movie Conversations about the relief that comes with acknowledging one's limitations. Troy and Ashlee discuss the vulnerability it takes to admit "I don't know" and why spaces for honest, open dialogue are so vital, both...

In this episode, Jenny Steele sits down with Pastor Cornelius Ting who has served as the pastor of Grand Rapids Chinese Christian Church in Grand Rapids, Michigan for nearly two decades. Cornelius shares his journey from growing up in multicultural Malaysia to becoming a key participant in the movie LEAP OF FAITH.  Cornelius opens up about his own struggles with insecurity and isolation in his pas...

In an age where polarization runs deep, how can churches create spaces of genuine dialogue?  In this episode of the Practicing Hope Podcast, host Ashlee Eiland speaks with Pastor Artie Lindsay, one of the pastors in LEAP OF FAITH, about the profound theme of authenticity within pastoral leadership. They discuss the importance of not just knowing theology but genuinely understanding the heart of Go...

In this episode of Pastors Anonymous, hosts Jenny Steele and Rev. Jess Shults explore the evolving understanding of what it means to be the Church. Inspired by a listener's question—"Can church occur in a dog park or a tattoo parlor?"—they discuss the mental models that shape our perceptions of community and faith, challenging the notion that Church is confined to a physical building. This episode...

Ever wondered why we crave authenticity in our relationships? Join Ashlee Eiland and Jenny Steele in Leap of Faith Movie Conversations as they discuss the connection between our spiritual design and our longing for open, honest dialogues, all while confronting the challenges that come with embracing our true selves. Listeners will hear about Ashlee's role in LEAP OF FAITH, some of her recent life...

In this episode of Leap of Faith Movie Conversations, Ashlee Eiland welcomes her friend Ben Kampmeier, a seasoned minister with a rich background in various church roles. From his beginnings as the "youth group guitar kid" to his current role as Director of Engagement at Our Daily Bread Ministries, Ben shares the journey that has shaped his faith and ministry. As they explore Ben's unexpected invo...

What if the key to healing a polarized world lies in the ancient wisdom of faith? In this episode on The Practicing Hope Podcast, host Jenny Steele speaks with Michael Gulker, the president of the Colossian Forum, to continue the conversation about the new movie LEAP OF FAITH. Jenny and Michael delve into the origins of the groundbreaking film project that arose from the heart of Grand Rapids, spa...

As part of our series exploring the LEAP OF FAITH documentary, podcast host Jenny Steele and the Rev. Molly Bosscher (St. Andrew's Episcopal Church in Grand Rapids, MI) discuss Molly's unique journey throughout the filming of LEAP OF FAITH, the active nature of hope, and what it looks like for her parish to be a safe haven for all who enter. With heartwarming anecdotes about her congregation's com...

In this episode of Leap of Faith Movie Conversations, Jenny Steele talks with Pastor Chase Stancle, the pastor of Unison Christian Church in Grand Rapids, MI, about his experience being featured in the LEAP OF FAITH movie, the challenges of seeking communal healing in a midwestern culture of conflict avoidance, and how unity, understood as a divine command, not a nicety, can change the world's per...

In a world where every post can spark debate, how can church leaders maintain a faithful witness online? In this inaugural Pastors Anonymous episode, host Jenny Steele and Chief Partnerships Officer Rev. Jess Shults dive into the complexities of being a pastor in today's polarized climate. As they explore the challenges of maintaining unity among a politically diverse staff, they unpack the emotio...

In this episode on our Leap of Faith Movie Conversations segment, podcast host Jenny Steele and Leap of Faith movie participant Rev. Joan VanDessel process what they learned in the filming process, how they experienced the Holy Spirit's movement throughout, and what it looks like for humility and mystery to play an integral role in our faith journeys.  As Joan and Jenny navigate themes of trust, c...

What if the political unrest we see today is deeply connected to how we process grief? In this episode, hospital chaplain and author J.S. Park joins us to explore the profound and often overlooked intersection of grief and politics. He draws on his experience in trauma care to challenge the hustle culture that pushes us to move on quickly and urges us to create space for lament in our communities....

We have exciting news! The Colossian Forum is featured in an upcoming movie by filmmaker Nicholas Ma. In this episode, we dive deep into the making of the poignant movie Leap of Faith , which hits theaters this fall. Jenny, the project manager for the movie, speaks with Michael Gulker, president of the Colossian Forum and a key partner in the movie, about his journey of vulnerability throughout th...

Americans are bad at grieving. As a society, we try our best to move past pain quickly and remove any reminders of it. In this episode, author and therapist Dieula Previlon suggests that hope and healing for our relationships and our nation in this political climate will only come when we slow down, tell stories, and lament our collective trauma together. Passionate about empowering people to heal...

In the midst of conflict and disagreement, Christians have a history of talking about big ideas and beliefs rather than "experiencing" them. In this episode, author and therapist Aundi Kolbert joins us and compassionately reminds us what she's always reminded her readers: Until we feel safe in our bodies, we won't be able to healthily address conflict with others. To begin transformative work on t...

The Colossian Forum is launching a new podcast. Hear from Ashlee Eiland and Tanner Smith about why we're starting this project and what you can expect. 

Throughout history, Christians have committed themselves to a "way of life" or rule of life at various times. Often, these rules of life were created as an effort to remain faithful to Christ in the midst of really challenging times. A rule of life is simply a commitment to live your life in a certain way—with some goal in mind. To live on purpose so that you can become the kind of person you long...