Rhonda Watts and Erin O'Loughlin

Pop DNA

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Pop DNA traces the roots of your favorite pop culture works. We're Erin and Rhonda, and we are big old nerds. We love dissecting our favorite movies, TV shows, and more, and we're really into how literature, history, and culture have impacted the works we consume. We explore connections across mediums, from the classic novels we see reflected in our favorite horror movies, to the politics in superhero franchises, to the influence of Shakespeare in, like, literally everything. There are also bad jokes. Follow us on Twitter and Instagram!

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Jul 5, 2026

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Abbott Elementary: Legendary Schools 09.09.2023

This week we look at how Abbott Elementary reflects popular opinions on the public education system, and how it portrays the experience of teaching as a profession. We also dip into the hot-button issue of charter schools, looking at a more nuanced discussion of this debate than we see presented on the show. Further Reading: Social media creators Honest Teacher Vibes , Mrs. Call's Campers , an...

Abbott Elementary: Philly is a Union Town 02.09.2023

Happy Season 6 to Pop DNA! To kick off September we're going back to school to talk about Abbott Elementary! To set the stage for this four-part series, and the whole podcast for the foreseeable future, we discuss the ongoing WGA and SAG-AFTRA strikes, how they affect Abbott Elementary, and why we should all be aware of the issues involved. We also take a quiz to find out which characters we a...

BONUS! In Our Fleabag Era But Make it Not Self-Destructive (also Happy Birthday to Erin) 12.08.2023

To celebrate Erin's (slightly belated) birthday we're deep diving into the most perfect television show ever created that also has a character named Bus Rat. Questions we discuss: What does the character of the camera represent within the narrative? What does the final scene of the series tell us about Fleabag's relationships with her loved ones, herself, and whatever the camera repres...

BONUS! Jane Austen: Queen of Comedy | Virtual JaneCon 2023 29.07.2023

ICYMI, we presented at Virtual JaneCon! Here's the audio from our talk, "Jane Austen: Queen of Comedy." We dive into Austen's influence in modern TV comedy, from parody and satire on shows like Succession and Don't Trust the B---- in Apartment 23, to the striking comedic parallels between Sense and Sensibility and Schitt's Creek! View our slide deck here . Watch this in v...

Jupiter Ascending (2015) and Attack of the Clones (2002) | Summer "Camp" 15.07.2023

We're wrapping up our Summer "Camp" series with a loving look at two science fiction/space opera movies that are really historical romances in space! Topics of discussion include Eddie Redmayne's love of character voices (and also how he auditioned for the role of Kylo Ren!); the fact that Star Wars has always been a little bit stupid, which is part of its charm; and how the lavi...

The Blackening (2022) and The Cabin in the Woods (2011) | Summer "Camp" 01.07.2023

In this meta horror commentary edition of Summer "Camp" we are talking about The Blackening and The Cabin in the Woods! Discussion points include how The Cabin in the Woods has aged over the past decade-plus and how we feel about its messaging now, The Blackening's unexpected hopefulness and positioning within both the meta-horror and the Black film spaces, and how both films take a...

Jennifer's Body (2009) and Teeth (2007) | Summer "Camp" 17.06.2023

CONTENT WARNING: this episode contains discussions, though NOT graphic descriptions, of sexual assault and violence against women, rape and rape culture, trauma, and women’s loss of bodily autonomy as portrayed and commented upon in these films. If these topics will not be a good experience for you to hear about, please take care of yourself and skip this episode. We'll see you next time! We&#...

M3GAN (2022) and Child's Play (1988) | Summer "Camp" 03.06.2023

Welcome "camp"ers to Pop DNA Summer "Camp"! To kick off our summer series all about our favorite campy movies, we first give a brief explainer of what we mean by "camp." We quote Susan Sontag and it's very professional. Then we look at two movies that portray creepy sentient dolls that turn murderous, the original 1988 classic Child's Play and the instant clas...

Taylor Swift: Look What You Made Me Do 27.05.2023

Wrapping up our Taylor Swift series, we decided to look at Swift's relationship with her fame and her fandom, and how both fit into the broader context of how we talk about famous women. From the way our society likes to mock teen girls and young women and the art they like, to the cycles of public opinion we see around female pop singers like Lizzo, Britney Spears, Beyonce, and Swift herself,...

Taylor Swift: Long Story Short 20.05.2023

Did you know that we're kinda theater kids? And also huge literature nerds? And that Taylor Swift is both of those things, too? This week we look at the theatricality of Swift's tour shows, specifically with the set and costume design of the Eras Tour, and how those elements help tell the story. Then we dive into the literary sensibilities of the albums Folklore and Evermore, viewing these...

Taylor Swift: The Eras Tour (Erin and Rhonda's Version) 13.05.2023

This week we're diving in to the evolution of Taylor Swift, and we've got graphs! Over the course of her 17-year career, Swift has evolved as an artist and as a public figure, with distinct "eras" emerging in her music and aesthetic. We take a look at her early career as a teen country music artist, her transition to pop, and her deepening explorations and fine-tuning within both...

Taylor Swift: Welcome to New York 06.05.2023

We're doing something totally new this month--discussing the works of a musical artist! And who better or more newsworthy to be our inaugural artist but Miss Americana herself, Taylor Swift. In part 1, we talk about the very recent announcement of Speak Now (Taylor's Version), look briefly at our personal connections with Swift's music, and take a very scientific BuzzFeed quiz to find...

BONUS: We Finally Made An Entire Episode About Twilight 29.04.2023

It's Rhonda's Birthday Bonus, so she roped Erin into talking about Twilight! As long-time listeners know, Rhonda is contractually obligated to bring up Twilight at regular intervals, and after this episode her quota will be met for quite some time. In our scholarly and insightful discussion, we talk about every Twilight consumer's burning question: Team Edward or Team Jacob? We also ta...

A League of Their Own: Seventh Inning Stretch 22.04.2023

We wrap up our series on A League of Their Own this week by discussing romance! Erin gives us a rundown on the documentary A Secret Love, which chronicles the real-life love story of Rockford Peach Terry Donahue and her lifelong partner Patricia Henschel. Then Rhonda deep-dives into the reference made to Pride and Prejudice in the first episode of the show, and how this reference foreshadows or co...

A League of Their Own: Inside Baseball 15.04.2023

We're continuing our discussion of A League of Their Own with a look inside the real All-American Girls Professional Baseball League (AAGPBL) and a few of the real women who played in the league over its 12 seasons. We also analyze how accurately the movie and TV series portrayed the realities of the league. Check out our recommended reading list below for our sources and further background on...

A League of Their Own: Starting Lineup 08.04.2023

It's officially baseball season and we're celebrating with a deep dive into the 2022 Amazon original series A League of Their Own, and the 1992 movie that inspired it! We open it up with a look at our first experiences with both the film and the series, and then do an overview of what we plan to explore in more depth this month. Topics include the true history of the All-American Girls Pro...

The Green Knight: Arthuriana as Fan Fiction featuring Natania Barron 18.03.2023

This week we're very excited to welcome our guest Natania Barron, author of the Arthurian-based Queens of Fate trilogy, to talk about the film The Green Knight, the character of Gawain and his many iterations, nerdy medievalist Easter eggs, the enduring and transcending relevance of Arthuriana, and so much more! Find Natania and her books on her website and follow her on Twitter , TikTok , and Ins...

The Green Knight: The Myth of a White Medieval Past 12.03.2023

This week in our discussion of The Green Knight, we look into readership and audience reception of the source text, the film, and other recent fantasy fiction. Medieval readers (or listeners) of Sir Gawain's story would have understood references and symbols in the text that many modern readers and viewers miss--what are some of these references? We also talk about the persistent myth that everyon...

The Green Knight: How Do You Pronounce Gawain? 05.03.2023

We're very excited to be diving in to the 2021 film The Green Knight this month, as well as the 14th century English epic poem Sir Gawain and the Green Knight on which the film is based. As an introduction to this series, we discuss our overview thoughts on the movie, plus our experiences with the source text, as well as Arthurian legends in general.  We also do our usual "table of contents,"...

To All the Boys I've Loved Before: Distance Makes the Heart Grow Fonder 25.02.2023

Wrapping up our series on To All The Boys, we look at how psychology and long distances affect the relationships in the films as well as in real life.  Erin of course dips into her psychology expertise to talk about the vulnerability cycle in relationships, and how we see this play out especially in Lara Jean and Peter's story. And Rhonda breaks down some of the locations used in the films, f...

To All the Boys I've Loved Before: The Summer We Turned Soulmates 18.02.2023

This week in our To All the Boys discussion, we look at how ideas and themes in the films are reflected in the real world. We research some other works and the life of Jenny Han, author of the books the films are based on, as well as how the idea of "soulmates" is expressed in literature and pop culture, especially teen romcoms. How have Han's experiences shaped her stories, and her role in the ad...

To All the Boys I've Loved Before: The Things We Write (and Read) for Love 11.02.2023

Love letters and romance novels are two of the most prominent genres of writing that inform our cultural ideas about love and romance, and both feature prominently in To All the Boys. Lara Jean is an avid romance reader, and even has fantasies inspired by common romance novel tropes, and of course the entire premise of the first book and movie revolves around Lara Jean's love letters.  This w...

To All the Boys I've Loved Before: First Date 04.02.2023

All February long we're talking about our favorite Netflix teen romcom movie series, To All the Boys I've Loved Before (sorry, Kissing Booth)! In part one we talk about our initial experiences with the movies, the source of comfort they were during quarantine, and get into the topics we plan to discuss in more depth throughout the month. Themes include: the history of love letters romance novels a...

Stranger Things: Choose Your Own Adventure 28.01.2023

We wrap up our Stranger Things discussion with a look at some of the literary inspirations for the show, such as the work of Stephen King and the Choose Your Own Adventure children's book series, as well as the interweaving of Dungeons and Dragons-style narrative storytelling with the ability for players to choose their own path.  We also take the quiz to find out which characters we are, and...

Stranger Things: Make America Demogorgon Again 21.01.2023

Part 2 of our Stranger Things discussion dives into the DND lore, especially the monsters (because that's Erin's brand), from which the show draws inspiration (or even straight-up copies, it's a little murky). We also look at Stranger Things as a piece of nostalgia media, and discuss why viewing the past through such a rosy lens can be dangerous, especially when considering how the political and s...

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