Cory O'Daniel, CEO of Massdriver
Platform Engineering Podcast
The Platform Engineering Podcast is a show about the real work of building and running internal platforms — hosted by Cory O’Daniel, longtime infrastructure and software engineer, and CEO/cofounder of Massdriver. Each episode features candid conversations with the engineers, leads, and builders shaping platform engineering today. Topics range from org structure and team ownership to infrastructure design, developer experience, and the tradeoffs behind every “it depends.”Cory brings two decades of experience building platforms — and now spends his time thinking about how teams scale infrastruct...
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Cory O'Daniel, CEO of Massdriver
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Jun 24, 2026
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Episodes
Smart TV Testing Made Simple with Dave Lucia of TV Labs 19.03.2025 47:50
Testing smart TV applications presents unique challenges that traditional web testing approaches can't solve. Dave Lucia, CTO and co-founder of TV Labs, shares how his team built a platform that virtualizes televisions and set-top boxes to help media companies test their smart TV apps on physical devices. Learn about TV Labs' innovative architecture and how they handle everything from camera-based...
Trust, Lock-in, And Better Infrastructure Management 26.02.2025 1:03:05
Why do 70% of organizations still struggle to adopt infrastructure as code? Sören Martius, CPO and co-founder of Terramate, joins Cory O'Daniel to tackle the challenges of modern infrastructure management and the delicate balance between vendor trust and lock-in. The conversation explores practical solutions for common infrastructure challenges, from managing monolithic state files to orchestratin...
Meeting Developers In Their Existing Workflows: The Terrateam Advantage 05.02.2025 57:02
Building infrastructure tooling doesn't require massive VC funding or a huge team - just ask Malcolm Matalka , co-founder of bootstrapped Terrateam . Malcolm shares his journey from real estate websites to investment banking to biotech, before landing in infrastructure automation. Learn how Terrateam takes a unique "libraries over frameworks" approach to development, prioritizing simplicity and co...
Beyond GitOps: Rethinking Cloud Self-Service with Dave Williams 22.01.2025 1:16:17
Is GitOps holding your team back? In this thought-provoking conversation with Massdriver co-founder Dave Williams, we challenge conventional wisdom around cloud infrastructure management and explore why traditional approaches to compliance and self-service may be creating more problems than they solve. Discover how leading organizations are moving beyond ceremonial approval processes to create tru...
Breaking Down Healthcare Delivery Barriers with Joel Vasallo 08.01.2025 50:49
Feeling overwhelmed by the number of apps you need to manage while building developer trust, managing costs, and trying to create an extensible platform that teams actually want to use? Joel Vasallo shares practical insights from scaling TAG 's platform engineering initiatives across multiple healthcare organizations. Learn how his team transformed deployment times from weeks to minutes while main...
Cloud Migration Strategies with Alex Voorhees of 66 Degrees 11.12.2024 52:52
Navigating cloud migrations and building modern platforms is challenging in the best of circumstances. Alex Voorhees, VP of Cloud Engineering at 66 Degrees, shares valuable lessons from helping organizations as they take on these challenges. Don’t miss his insights on: How to tackle the human and organizational challenges that come with cloud transformation Practical strategies for upskilling team...
Democratizing Kubernetes: The Kubefirst Journey with John Dietz 28.11.2024 1:05:20
John Dietz, CEO and co-founder of Konstruct (formerly Kubefirst), joins us fresh from KubeCon North America to discuss the evolution of cloud-native platform adoption. John shares insights into Konstruct's mission to make Kubernetes and cloud-native technology more accessible, reducing the typical 18-month adoption timeline to minutes. The conversation explores Konstruct's two main products: Kubef...
Executing Well in Healthcare with Jessica Kalinowski 13.11.2024 51:10
Jessica Kalinowski, VP of DevOps and Corporate IT at Connect RN, shares her journey from corporate IT to implementing DevOps and platform engineering in a startup environment. Jessica discusses the challenges and successes of applying tech strategies in healthcare. The episode covers strategies for platform adoption, including early engineer engagement and flexible implementation. Jessica discusse...
Solomon Hykes on Docker, Dagger, and the Future of DevOps 30.10.2024 55:34
In this episode, Solomon Hykes discusses the journey from Docker's inception to its widespread adoption, the challenges faced in open-source development, and his current work with Dagger. He explains how Dagger aims to revolutionize continuous integration by making pipelines more modular and efficient, addressing the "push and pray" problem in software development. Hykes also shares insights on th...
Security and Scalability with Justin Berman from Thirty Madison 16.10.2024 59:52
In this episode of the Platform Engineering Podcast, Cory O'Daniel sits down with Justin Berman, Vice President of Platform Engineering and Chief Information Security Officer at Thirty Madison. Justin shares his journey from software engineering to security leadership, discusses the challenges of building secure and scalable platforms, and offers insights into the future of platform engineering an...
Engineering Culture Change with Stack Overflow’s Peter O’Connor 02.10.2024 54:22
Join us as we learn about Stack Overflow's monumental shift from on-premises infrastructure to the cloud with Peter O'Connor, Director of Platform Engineering. Peter shares invaluable insights on navigating the complexities of migrating a beloved developer platform, balancing technical challenges with team dynamics, and fostering a culture of innovation. From the intricacies of lift-and-shift stra...
Platform Engineering for Social Good with Code for America’s Grace Huntley 18.09.2024 44:18
Want your work to mean more? In this inspiring episode of the Platform Engineering Podcast, we welcome Grace Huntley, Director of Engineering for DevOps, InfoSec, and Safety Net Innovation Lab at Code for America. Grace shares her unconventional journey from licensed plumber to civic tech leader, driven by personal experiences and a passion for solving societal challenges through technology. ...
Bridging Tech and Human Factors in Platform Engineering with Morteza Irdmousa 04.09.2024 46:42
Technical expertise is undoubtedly important when it comes to implementing Platform Engineering but unless you are also paying close attention to the human factor and the cultural aspects of building an effective team it will be much harder to succeed. Cory talks to Morteza Irdmousa, Head of Platform Engineering at Curative, about his experiences in Platform Engineering and DevOps. Join them as th...
From Netflix to the Cloud: Adrian Cockroft on DevOps, Microservices, and Sustainability 22.08.2024 1:01:58
In this episode Cory sits down with Adrian Cockroft, a pioneering technologist who played a crucial role in Netflix's transition to cloud computing and microservices architecture. Adrian shares insights from his impressive career, including his work at Netflix, AWS, and beyond. He discusses the evolution of DevOps practices, the rise of microservices, and the challenges of platform engineering in...
Foundations of The Cloud With Brian Grant, Kubernetes 07.08.2024 56:39
It’s episode four of the Platform Engineering Podcast’s special series on the Foundations of The Cloud! This time Cory O'Daniel sits down with Brian Grant, the original lead architect of Kubernetes, to dive deep into the history and evolution of Kubernetes in cloud operations. Brian shares his journey from working in supercomputing to joining Google and helping develop Kubernetes. He also provides...
Foundations of The Cloud With Mitchell Hashimoto, Terraform 24.07.2024 53:36
In this third episode of the Platform Engineering Podcast’s special series on the Foundations of The Cloud, host Corey O'Daniel interviews Mitchell Hashimoto, co-founder of HashiCorp and creator of Terraform, Vault, and Nomad. They discuss the intricacies of platform engineering, the history and evolution of Terraform, the advent of infrastructure as code, and the challenges accompanying it. Mitch...
Foundations of The Cloud With Adam Jacob, Chef 10.07.2024 1:00:56
In this second episode of the Platform Engineering Podcast’s special series on the Foundations of The Cloud, Cory O’Daniel meets up with Adam Jacob, co-founder of Chef and System Initiative. They discuss his early interest in infrastructure and automation, the development and impact of Chef in the DevOps community, and his transition to becoming a CEO. The conversation emphasizes the community and...
Foundations of the Cloud with Mark Burgess, CFEngine 26.06.2024 57:41
In this special episode of the Platform Engineering Podcast on Foundations of The Cloud, Cory O'Daniel chats with Mark Burgess , the creator of CFEngine and a pioneer in configuration management. They dive into Mark's journey from physics to computer science, the birth of CFEngine, and the dynamic world of system administration and DevOps. They also explore the evolution of IT operations, the chal...
Navigating AI And Platform Engineering With Amey Patil 12.06.2024 55:03
In this episode of the Platform Engineering Podcast, Cory O’Daniel speaks with Amey Patil, Head of Platform Engineering at Google Ads and Google Analytics. They discuss the evolving landscape of platform engineering, the integration of AI and ML, and the human factors essential for leading successful platform teams. From managing legacy code migrations to fostering a culture of innovation, Amey sh...
The Role Of Startups In Moving Platform Engineering Forward With Colton Dempsey Of Next 47 08.05.2024 58:11
Startups always bring refreshing perspectives and brand-new ideas to any space, and the platform engineering industry is no different. In this episode, Cory O'Daniel sits down with Colton Dempsey of Next47 to discuss the important role of startup ventures in the progress of platform engineering. He explains the five categories of startups, why many of them are building more d...
Unlocking the Potential of Hybrid Cloud with Cory O'Daniel 10.04.2024 10:04
In this episode Chris Hill asks Cory O’Daniel, CEO and co-founder of Massdriver, to explain the concept and benefits of hybrid cloud, including the use of multiple cloud providers and container services for scalability and flexibility. The discussion also addresses the security and networking challenges that using hybrid cloud implies. Guest: Cory O'Daniel , CEO at Massdriver
Infrastructure As Code: Business Continuity And Disaster Recovery With Cory O'Daniel 27.03.2024 10:22
Chris Hill sits down with Cory O'Daniel to talk about how Infrastructure as Code can help with disaster recovery and business continuity. From the technology and personnel challenges to scenarios such as losing one of your regions and the importance of backup plans, learn how IaC can be used to help ensure data and operations are not affected. Love the show? Subscribe, rate, review, & sha...
DevOps & Platform Engineering - What's The Difference? With Dave Williams 13.03.2024 8:11
In this week's episode, Chris Hill gets Dave Williams to go deeper into how platform engineering is moving one step beyond DevOps. Listen in as they discuss the skill sets, principles, and mindset needed to enable this evolution in the field. Love the show? Subscribe, rate, review, & share! Guest: Dave Williams , CTO at Massdriver
Is DevOps Bullshit? An Interview With Cory O’Daniel, Author Of The “DevOps Is Bullshit” Blog Post 28.02.2024 17:26
DevOps was conceived as a way to bring developers and operations together, but has it really worked? In this episode, Dave Williams sits down with Cory O’Daniel to discuss his controversial blog post “DevOps Is Bullshit.” Find out why Cory sees platform engineering as a solution. Discover its potential as an antidote to the unmet promises and inherent challenges within the current DevOps landscape...
What Is Platform Engineering? A Cloud Operation Engineer’s Perspective 14.02.2024 15:50
For teams ingrained in DevOps practices, Platform Engineering ushers in a broader horizon, a fresh perspective on managing infrastructure. But what does Platform Engineering offer, especially for those adept in cloud operations? In this episode, Cory O’Daniel talks to Chris Hill about platform engineering from the perspective of a cloud operations engineer. From the importance of security and comp...
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