Planet Normal

Former Head of MI6 Sir Richard Dearlove joins Allison Pearson and Liam Halligan’s rocket of right-thinking after British intelligence agencies described the Covid-19 lab leak theory as “feasible” - an idea he has long backed. In an explosive interview, Sir Richard tells listeners why China has behaved “appallingly” over the pandemic, and why he believes the US has intelligence on the origins of th...

Ding Ding! It's round one in Westminster as Dominic Cummings enters the ring to unleash his blow-by-blow attack on the government's handling of the Covid pandemic - and Telegraph columnists Allison Pearson and Liam Halligan were watching. Liam struggles to stand up for his one-time lodger, Allison tells us why she thinks Matt Hancock is the real pantomime villain and they both agree that...

The doom cycle is all too much for this week's Planet Normal stowaway, Laura Dodsworth. The author and photographer has written a new book on the UK government's "weaponisation of fear" over the pandemic, and she joins Telegraph columnists Allison Pearson and Liam Halligan's rocket of reason to share her damning take on the "unethical" use of behavioural psychology over lockdown. Elsewhere on...

The National Health Service or the National Covid Service? The latter, according to this week’s Planet Normal guest, Nick Stokes' whose beloved wife, Joy, was a casualty of the NHS’s transition to ’telemedecine’ after vital signs of her cancer were missed. She died just a few weeks ago. On this week's show, Nick entrusts Telegraph columnists Allison Pearson and Liam Halligan with his story, t...

Journalist Rod Liddle joins Allison Pearson and Liam Halligan to mark fifty voyages to Planet Normal. 1.5 million downloads later, Allison has finally learnt what a podcast is. On this week's birthday rocket, Rod tells our co-pilots why "Super Thursday" isn't really so super, and what it was really like editing the Today programme at the "monolithic" BBC. Also on the show: Allison shares a glimpse...

Janet Daley, columnist for the Sunday Telegraph, plants the Stars and Stripes on Planet Normal this week. She shares her take on Biden’s first 100 days in office with fellow columnists Liam Halligan and Allison Pearson, and reveals why she thinks the United States’ lack of rooted identity is the cause of most of the country's issues today. Els...

David Owen, former Foreign Secretary and one of the SDP's Gang of Four, boards a flight to Planet Normal this week. He tells Telegraph columnists Allison Pearson and Liam Halligan why he thinks it's a problem that former Prime Ministers no longer join the House of Lords and expresses his regret that the late Shirley Williams didn't acknowledge her own p...

Ray Bassett, former Irish diplomat lands on Planet Normal following some of the worst violence in Northern Ireland in decades. As one of the key architects of the Good Friday Agreement, he gives Telegraph columnists Liam Halligan and Allison Pearson the inside track on a turbulent week, and tells Planet Normal why he believes no side has truly stuck to the agreement. Plus Ray shares some disquieti...

Dr Tony Sewell, chair of the commission behind the long-awaited government report into racial disparities, boards this week's rocket to Planet Normal. He tells Telegraph columnists Liam Halligan and Allison Pearson why a desperate attempt to discredit his findings prove their veracity, and why the term 'BAME' needs to go. Elsewhere, liberation from lockdown is edging into view, but will our c...

Golf is back, "revellers" are enjoying the sunshine and tiny specks of normality are starting to reappear. They can't come soon enough for Telegraph columnists and Planet Normal co-pilots Allison Pearson and Liam Halligan, who this week celebrate "Happy Monday", struggle to crown just one "Numpty of the Week" and award coveted Planet Normal mugs to two moving listener emails. Boarding the rocket a...

Hugh Osmond, the businessman behind the Punch Taverns group lands on Planet Normal with some disquieting words about the failure of business groups to speak out for the one in ten Britons who work in hospitality. Plus, he gives Telegraph columnists Allison Pearson and Liam Halligan the inside track on his legal campaign to accelerate the sector's reopening. Also on the podcast: Allison shares exac...

Douglas Murray, author, political commentator and associate editor of The Spectator lands on Planet Normal alongside Telegraph columnists Allison Pearson and Liam Halligan. He tells us why protests, such as the Black Lives Matter marches and recent stands against female harassment, are an inevitable consequence of lockdowns. Plus he urges Britain to take a leaf out of the French book and reje...

Ben Houchen, Tees Valley Mayor lands on Planet Normal this week, as he tells Telegraph columnists Allison Pearson and Liam Halligan why Budget day was momentous for his region and why he's urging Rishi Sunak to make the entire country a freeport. Plus he reveals how he thinks the Conservative party can keep precious Red Wall seats. Also on the podcast: our hosts wonder if the pandemic has turned i...

Lady Carnarvon, owner of Highclere Castle, swaps "the real-life Downton Abbey" for Planet Normal. She tells our co-pilots why she thinks reopening England's heritage sites in May is too late and just how long it'll take for her company to pay back lockdown loans, plus she imagines how the Dowager Countess would handle the restrictions. Also on the podcast: Liam puts on his economist hat...

Lord Grade, former chairman of the BBC and ITV and CEO of Channel 4, dons his spacesuit to join Telegraph columnists Allison Pearson and Liam Halligan on their trip to Planet Normal. He tells us why he's cheering on Laurence Fox's anti-woke crusade, how he's fed up with journalists trying to catch the government out and why diversity of opinion is sorely lacking in the UK media. Also on the podcas...

Olympic medallist Sharron Davies MBE swaps her swimsuit for her spacesuit this week to join Telegraph columnists Allison Pearson and Liam Halligan on Planet Normal. And with the next games hanging in the balance, Sharron tells us what conditions athletes would accept to see the event go ahead, reflects on her time in the pool, and explains why she feels the rights of female athletes are being erod...

Dr John Lee, former NHS consultant pathologist blasts off to Planet Normal alongside Telegraph columnists Allison Pearson and Liam Halligan. He tells listeners why he believes the cost of coronavirus lockdowns has been hugely underestimated, and urges the government to take a look at the bigger picture. There is more to life than Covid, he tells us, as our co-pilots nod heartily in agreement. Also...

The country loses a beacon of hope in Captain Sir Tom Moore, and this week Allison Pearson and Liam Halligan pay tribute to the former officer. And in the spirit of Captain Tom, they look forward and predict a bright future for the UK's vaccine rollout - if the EU doesn't attempt to derail it... again. And joining the rocket is Rod Grant, Headteacher of Clifton Hall School and Planet Normal listen...

University is the time of your life - unless you're living through a pandemic. Third-year student and listener, Lucy takes a ride in the Planet Normal rocket to tell Telegraph columnists Allison Pearson and Liam Halligan why her generation feels forgotten by the government, why she worries about her peers, and how the crisis has left her embarrassed to be a young scientist.  Also on the...

Sir Christopher Meyer, former British ambassador to the US makes his maiden voyage to Planet Normal as Donald Trump’s presidency comes to an end. He tells Telegraph columnists, Allison Pearson and Liam Halligan why it’s high time to abandon the idea of the “special relationship” and why we haven't heard the last of Mr Trump. Plus, as a former Chairman of the Press Complaints Commission, Sir Christ...

Sir Graham Brady, Chairman of the 1922 Committee dons his Planet Normal spacesuit, alongside co-pilots, Allison Pearson and Liam Halligan. The MP for Altrincham & Sale West makes a strong case for easing the lockdown once the most vulnerable are vaccinated, and wonders just how happy the Prime Minister can be imposing restrictions in the first place.  Also on the podcast, Allison ensures...

Commentator and author, Paul Embery joins the Planet Normal rocket alongside Telegraph columnists, Allison Pearson and Liam Halligan to discuss what he sees as the Labour Party’s big problem: losing working-class voters. Plus, you’re never more than two metres away from discussion of the lockdown on Planet Normal - Paul tells us why he thinks the latest coronavirus restrictions haven’t been subjec...

As we say goodbye to 2020, Telegraph columnists Allison Pearson and Liam Halligan take a trip down memory lane and look back at an extraordinary year with some of our star guests that have featured on Planet Normal. From our first guest, Alan Johnson giving his verdict on schools returning after lockdown to Sir Richard Dearlove, former head of M16 telling us that he believes that coronavirus start...

Bake Off host Prue Leith puts on her spaceboots to join Planet Normal this week to tell Telegraph columnists Allison Pearson and Liam Halligan why she believes older people should not be a priority for the vaccine (including herself), that she's confident the restaurant industry will bounce back, and her scandalous secret to good custard (spoiler: it involves the shop-bought stuff!) Also...

Former Australian diplomat, Mark Higgie joins Planet Normal this week to tell Telegraph columnists, Allison Pearson and Liam Halligan why he's got a good feeling about a Brexit trade deal, why it's inaccurate to dress 'no deal' up as 'Australian' and why he urges extreme caution in doing trade deals with China. Also on the podcast: Allison reveals how a well-placed NHS source says t...