Pivot Podcast

The New Evangelism Message That's Changing Everything. What if reframing evangelism isn't about getting more people in church, but about learning to meet Jesus in the midst of sorrow? In part two of our conversation with Luther Seminary professor Andy Root we explore a radically different approach to sharing faith that moves beyond happiness-hunting strategies to embrace God's presence in brokenne...

Many church leaders feel caught between uncomfortable extremes when it comes to how to evangelize - either instrumental strategies that feel manipulative or avoiding evangelism altogether out of fear it will drive people away. In this episode, Luther Seminary professor Andy Root offers a third way through his new book "Evangelism in an Age of Despair." Andy shows how to evangelize through what he...

When devastating wildfires swept through Pasadena in early 2025, La Fuente Ministries faced a test of what it means to be church in community crisis. Pastor Marcos Canales and Nina Lau Branson join us to share how their bilingual, intergenerational congregation discovered that being church in community crisis isn't about having perfect emergency plans—it's about cultivating spiritual practices and...

In this thought-provoking episode of the Pivot Podcast, we dive deep into the concept of "one church multiple models" with returning guest Dwight Zscheile. Dwight unpacks the idea of a "mixed ecology" - where traditional congregations and new forms of ministry can flourish together as one church with multiple expressions. He explains how cultural shifts are making traditional church structures inc...

Biblical improvisation offers a compelling framework for preaching in today's complex cultural landscape. In this thought-provoking episode of the Pivot Podcast, Dr. Mark Glanville, Director of the Center for Missional Leadership and professional jazz pianist, shares how preachers can be like jazz musicians—deeply rooted in tradition while creating something fresh and contextual with each sermon....

Is your church struggling to meaningfully engage with your community? In this transformative episode of the Pivot Podcast, host Dwight Zscheile interviews Pastor Ed Doerner about his innovative approach to church leadership community engagement. Discover how Messiah Lutheran Church in Midland, Michigan transformed from being $5.2 million in debt to creating a sustainable community ministry model t...

In this compelling Pivot Podcast episode, we explore effective Gen Z spiritual formation through the lens of campus ministry. Eric Huseth, Executive Director of Emmaus Campus Ministry at the University of Montana, shares how his team creates authentic spaces for students to explore faith on their own terms. Eric describes today's college students as assembling a "spiritual jigsaw puzzle" influence...

In a culture driven by performance and achievement, ministry leaders often feel immense pressure to fix declining institutions and busy congregations with more programs. David Zahl, founder of Mockingbird Ministries and author of "The Big Relief," joins hosts Dwight Zscheile and Terri Elton to explore how grace-centered ministry offers an alternative that both relieves pressure and creates more vi...

Mike and Danny Housholder from Lutheran Church of Hope in Iowa share their journey in multi-site church ministry spanning several communities across Iowa. At the heart of their approach is a commitment to "set the sails of this church to the wind of God's Spirit" rather than simply doing church for God. They explain how their guiding principle—"Jesus is life, the rest is details"—provides both fou...

Holy Week marks the most pivotal moments in the Christian faith, but how often do we rush to get to Easter morning? In this thoughtful 7-minute reflection, Terri invites listeners to slow down and experience the complete journey. Drawing from personal experiences of bringing her young children to Good Friday services, Terri illustrates how encountering the darkness and solemnity of Christ's death...

In this quarterly Q&A episode, our hosts tackle one of the most common struggles church leaders face: knowing what to focus on when everything seems important. Listen as they explore why many churches describe themselves by their programs rather than their theological identity, and how this leads to burnout and confusion. You'll discover practical exercises to help your congregation reconnect...

In this episode of the Pivot Podcast, hosts Katie Langston and Dwight Zscheile explore how collaborative youth ministry is revolutionizing the way churches engage with young people in Boise, Idaho. Pastors Bob Lewis and Mariah Mills share their journey of creating a confirmation co-op across four congregations, demonstrating how church partnerships can create vibrant faith experiences while sharin...

Dr. Jennifer Wojciechowski joins the Pivot Podcast to explore how Christian mysticism offers profound wisdom for today's spiritual seekers. In her new book "Tending the Garden," Jennie examines how mystical traditions can help modern believers cultivate deeper relationships with God through practices like Lectio Divina, the Jesus Prayer, and the Ignatian Examen. The conversation reveals how Christ...

In this episode of the Pivot Podcast, the Rev. Dr. Christian Selvaratnam shares how he caught the church planting vision and has spent 25 years developing innovative models for training church planters and traditional pastors alike. As Dean of Church Planting at St. Hild Theological College in England, Christian explains the power of the medieval apprenticeship approach to leadership development....

What is the true meaning of the Lenten season for today's church leaders? In this reflective episode, the Rev. Blair Pogue explores how traditional Lenten practices can help ministry leaders navigate extreme polarization, institutional suspicion, and personal burnout. Discover how remembering your baptismal identity and spending time in Jesus' loving presence can transform your leadership approach...

Many churches struggle with creating meaningful church community service initiatives that authentically connect with neighbors. In this episode, Nancy Dyson from St. John's Episcopal Church in St. Cloud, Minnesota shares how a simple cup of coffee led to "Laundry Love" - a thriving ministry serving 80-100 people monthly at a local laundromat. Nancy reveals how showing up consistently, listening de...

What if our instinct to manage and control church life is actually holding us back from authentic community building? In this episode of the Pivot Podcast, Steve Aisthorpe, author of "Rewilding the Church," shares how the ecological concept of rewilding offers fresh insights for church renewal. Drawing from his research on changing patterns of Christian community and his years of experience in min...

Is your church struggling to connect with neighbors beyond your walls? In this episode, Rev. Canon Dave Male, Co-Director of Vision and Strategy for the Church of England, shares how churches can move from program-driven outreach to relationship-based ministry. Through his extensive work with fresh expressions of church, Dave reveals why some of the most effective new forms of ministry are also th...

What if everything you think you know about how to evangelize is about to change? In this provocative episode, Dr. Harvey Kwiyani, a Malawian missiologist and director of the Center for Global Witness and Human Migration, shares how African Christians are successfully reaching secular Western societies in ways that traditional Western churches haven't. Drawing from his experience across Africa, Eu...

Most preachers spend hours on sermon preparation - studying scripture, crafting illustrations, and polishing delivery. But research shows there's a crucial step that's often missing: creating intentional spaces to hear what our congregations are actually receiving from our preaching. In this episode, Dr. Dee Stokes and Rev. Dr. Adam White share insights from their groundbreaking "And How Will They...

What does it truly mean to be a missional church in post-Christian America? Bryan Halferty, lead pastor of Anchor Church in Tacoma, Washington, discovered that it starts with a fundamental shift - from trying to fix problems to listening for where God is already at work. Through his unlikely combination of skateboarding and church planting, Bryan shares how embracing "failing forward" opened new p...

As we approach both Martin Luther King Jr. Day and Inauguration Day 2025, many church leaders are wrestling with how to offer hope while addressing the deep divisions in our communities. In this timely conversation, Rev. Dr. F. Willis Johnson, Senior Pastor of Christ United Methodist Church and author of "Holding Up Your Corner," returns to the Pivot Podcast to explore how Dr. King's vision of bel...

Struggling with how to write a sermon that connects with your congregation while maintaining your own spiritual well-being? Rev. Dr. Lisa Cressman, founder of Backstory Preaching, reveals a transformative approach that moves beyond traditional sermon preparation methods. From her middle-of-the-night divine inspiration that launched Backstory Preaching to serving preachers worldwide, Lisa shares ho...

The landscape of ministry education is undergoing dramatic change. Traditional seminary enrollment is declining, fewer churches can afford full-time pastors, and leaders are questioning how to adapt. But in this insightful conversation with Luther Seminary President the Rev. Dr. Robin Steinke, we discover how these challenges are opening up exciting new possibilities for forming Christian leaders....

"Oh, that you would tear open the heavens and come down!" This cry from Isaiah 64 expresses humanity's deep longing for hope. In this special Advent reflection, Professor Rolf Jacobson of Luther Seminary takes us on an unexpected journey from an 18th-century Hasidic tale to the prophet Isaiah's fierce prayer, revealing how true hope comes not from our own efforts, but from God's faithful promises....