David Bates, Matt Bush, and Andrew Lazo
Pints with Jack: The C.S. Lewis Podcast
Discussing his works chapter-by-chapter and interviewing Lewis experts.
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David Bates, Matt Bush, and Andrew Lazo
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Jun 2, 2026
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S2E29 – AH – Dr. David Clark 10.09.2019 38:47
Probably the most useful book I read during Season 2 of Pints With Jack was C.S. Lewis Goes To Heaven by David Clark. In today's episode I interviewed Dr. Clark to discuss his book and wrap up our discussion of The Great Divorce. 01:51 – Introducing Dr. Clark 08:34 – Did the book take long to write? 09:14 – What’s the main point of Lewis' book? 10:31 – What is the structure of your boo...
S2E28.5 – Bonus – “Counsel of Trent and The Classical Theism Podcast” 03.09.2019 20:46
I was recently interviewed as a guest on two different podcasts: The Counsel of Trent and the Classical Theism Podcast. This episode contains clips from those interviews to whet your appetite for the full episodes... 00:40 COT Clip, Episode #190 04:44 COT Clip, Episode #191 10:05 CTP Clip, Episode #59
S2E28 – Bonus – “You don’t know Jack!” 20.08.2019 20:39
This episode is quite different from our usual Pints With Jack episodes. Rather than interviewing a scholar or discussing a chapter of Lewis' work with Matt, I'm going to be reading an article I wrote which gives a rough outline of Lewis' life.
S2E27 – AH – Dale Ahlquist 13.08.2019 43:23
t has been my desire for a while to introduce the listeners to other members of the Inklings, as well as authors who greatly influenced Lewis. Today we look at G.K. Chesterton and our special guest who will be introducing us to this great man is renowned Chesterton scholar and champion, Dale Ahlquist.
S2E26 – PC – “Caspian Continued…” 06.08.2019 29:00
In the previous episode we began discussing the second book in "The Chronicles of Narnia", which is called "Prince Caspian". In this episode, we finish our discussion. 00:38 Continued Analysis 22:29 Overall review of the book 27:00 Surprise Haiku!
S2E25 – PC – “Prince Caspian” 30.07.2019 42:52
Each Season we discuss briefly one of the Chronicles of Narnia. In Season 1 we read The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe. This Season, we're reading Prince Caspian, as it was the second book to be published. In comparison to the previous book, Prince Caspian is less familiar to most people so we had to spend more time outlining the plot, so Matt and I ended up having to break up our discussion ove...
S2E24 – Bonus – “God Save The Queen!” 23.07.2019 58:12
A rather unusual episode this week! My girlfriend and I recently went on vacation to England, so we thought it'd be fun to sit down and tell you all about it, including how we got to play with the personal belongings of a literary giant, as well as have lunch with an Inkling's grandson! Click on the episode title for the Show Notes!
S2E23 – TGD R – “Retrospective” 02.07.2019 48:20
Sorry for the delay! This is the episode where Matt and I sit back and reflect on this past season going through The Great Divorce chapter by chapter. Click on the episode title for the Show Notes!
S2E22.5 -Bonus – Packing for England! 26.06.2019 2:39
Hey everyone, I'm afraid there's no substantial episode this week as I'm packing for my trip to England tomorrow. Click on the episode title for the Show Notes!
S2E22 – AH – Louis Markos 18.06.2019 1:12:04
Today I speak to Dr. Louis Markos, Professor in English at Houston Baptist University and author of the book Heaven and Hell: Visions of the Afterlife in the Western Poetic Tradition. In this work, Professor Markos devotes a chapter to The Great Divorce, as well as the book to which Lewis was responding, Blake's The Marriage of Heaven and Hell. Click on the episode title for the Show Notes!
S2E21 – TGD 14 – “Sunrise” 11.06.2019 44:58
We arrive today at the final chapter of The Great Divorce. Lewis sees a vision of a chessboard to help him understand the relationship between time and eternity and the sun, which throughout this book has been hidden, finally rises... Click on the episode title for Show Notes!
S2E20 – TGD 13 – “The Dwarf and The Tragedian” 04.06.2019 44:27
Last week we read that Sarah Smith was starting to get through to her ghostly husband. In today's chapter we see the conclusion of that encounter and MacDonald explains why misery must one day be unable to affect joy... Click on the episode title for Show Notes!
S2E19 – TGD 12 – “The Great Lady” 28.05.2019 44:08
The focus of today's chapter is not a ghost, but a Saint. According to MacDonald, she is "one of the great ones", although you'll have never heard of her before. This week we see even more clearly how fame on earth and fame in Heaven are two very different things. We also vividly see the danger of living behind masks as we meet her husband... Click on the episode title for Show Notes!
S2E18 – AA – Justin Thomas 21.05.2019 30:10
In today's "After Hours" interview, I speak to Justin Thomas, a Pastor at Calvary: The Hill in Seattle. Justin's congregation was behind "The Great Divorce Project" YouTube channel. These are the videos I've been talking about over the course of this Season which Matt keeps forgetting to watch beforehand. In this episode, I sat down with Pastor Justin and asked about the origins and goals of The G...
S2E17 – TGD 11 – “The Mother and The Lizard” 15.05.2019 44:43
This week we meet two different ghosts, both of whom have disordered loves. The first is a mother who "loves" her son so much that it obscures everything, even God. The second is a man who struggles with lust, represented by a lizard on his shoulder. Fortunately, we finally have a ghost who chooses Heaven! Yay! Today's episode we continue discussing disordered loves and how certain kinds of love c...
S2E16 – Bonus – “Praise Him all His hosts!” 07.05.2019 49:30
We're taking a brief break from The Great Divorce to give the listeners an opportunity to ask the question: "Who exactly are Matt and David? Click on the episode title for Show Notes!
S2E15 – TGD 10 – “The Controlling Ghost” 30.04.2019 44:23
Lewis and MacDonald overhear the conversation between a Ghost whose husband is in Heaven. She initially says she wants nothing to do with him, but ends up demanding that he beg given to her. In between, we get a vivid picture of their marital life together... Click on the episode title for Show Notes!
S2E14 – TGD 9 – “The Grumbler and The Artist” 23.04.2019 34:40
Last week we began looking at Chapter 9. It's an action-packed chapter so we decided to discuss it over the course of two episodes. As we finish the chapter we discuss two of the ghosts whom Lewis sees: The Grumbling Ghost and The Artistic Ghost... Click on the episode title for Show Notes!
S2E13 – TGD 9 – “Meeting George” 16.04.2019 38:32
The chapter today is really the pivot of The Great Divorce. In it, we meet George MacDonald, a writer whom Lewis had read on earth, but who is now a Bright Spirit. MacDonald explains much to Jack, particularly concerning the troubling accusations raised by the Hard-Bitten Ghost. Click on the episode title for Show Notes!
S2E12.5 – Bonus – Jesus isn’t dull! 09.04.2019 5:00
Unfortunately I've been run off my feet this week and haven't had time to edit a full episode. However, rather than just post nothing, I thought I'd read an extended quotation from "The Dogmas Is The Drama" by Dorothy Sayers, a good friend of C.S. Lewis. Click on the episode title for Show Notes!
S2E12 – TGD 8 – “The Self-Conscious Ghost” 02.04.2019 39:00
Today in our journey into Heaven we meet "The Self-Conscious Ghost"... Click on the episode title for Show Notes!
PWJ: S2E11 – TGD 7 – “The Hard-bitten Ghost” 26.03.2019 41:58
Once again we return to The Great Divorce! Today we get to meet a new visitor from Hell, "The Hard-Bitten Ghost"... Click on the episode title for Show Notes!
S2E10 – AA – Joseph Pearce 19.03.2019 41:23
In this episode, Joseph Pearce and I will be discussing his book C. S. Lewis and the Catholic Church, which looks at Jack's relationship to the Catholic Church and addresses the question asked by many Catholic C.S. Lewis fans: Why did Lewis not convert to Catholicism? Why didn't he "Swim the Tiber"? We hope that all our listeners, regardless of denomination, will find this discussion interesting a...
TEA: Life in Christ, not just improvement, but transformation 14.03.2019 47:10
Lent at St. Ignatius in Los Angeles. This is a longer version of the talk I gave the previous week in Dodge City which was called "What is the point of Christianity?". The first 20 minutes is basically identical, after which I get into new material.
S2E9 – TGD 6 – “The Apple Thief” 12.03.2019 39:57
We're back discussing The Great Divorce this week. In today's chapter "The Intelligent Ghost" attempts to take some apples back to the grey town... Click on the episode title for Show Notes!
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