Pearl Meyer

Pearl Meyer Unscripted

Business EN ↓ 35 episodes

Pearl Meyer Unscripted dives into the real-world challenges and conversations shaping executive compensation and leadership strategy. Forthright, insightful, and sometimes unexpected—this is where we connect the dots between people, purpose, and performance.

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Author

Pearl Meyer

Category

Business

Podcast website

pearlmeyer.com

Latest episode

Oct 27, 2026

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Episodes

S2E4: Do Metrics Based on ESG Objectives Belong in Incentive Plans? 18.05.2026

Although ESG-related metrics have been around for decades, the rapid adoption of certain metrics into incentive plans is a relatively recent phenomenon. The adoption has in turn led to certain challenges – both with respect to the (often politicized) question of whether to include such metrics in incentive plans in the first place, and how to assess their relative impact. In this episode, Mark and...

S2E3: Executive Succession and CEO Turnover 18.05.2026

Succession planning is increasingly prevalent on the compensation committee agenda. In this episode, Mark and Aalap are joined by their colleague (and leadership expert) Susan Sandlund to discuss the evolving role of the CEO, why CEO burnout and turnover have been increasing, what good succession planning looks like, and why boards should be thinking about succession well beyond the CEO role.

S2E2: Performance-Based Equity Awards and Other LTI Trends 18.05.2026

In this episode, Mark and Aalap are joined by Steve Van Putten to discuss how compensation committees are thinking about performance-based equity awards and other long-term incentive plan design trends, in light of the current macro-economic environment. Among other aspects, they touch on relative TSR, the impact of proxy advisors, and how shifts in LTI design are affecting broader equity strategi...

S2E1: Board Governance Is Evolving – Is Your Compensation Committee Keeping Pace? 18.05.2026

In the first episode of season 2 of Pearl Meyer Unscripted , co-hosts Mark Rosen and Aalap Shah speak with Matt Turner, Pearl Meyer's President of Executive Compensation, about the evolving purview of the compensation committee, and the implications of expanding governance responsibilities for the committee.

S1E6: From Innovation to Accounting and Back Again 15.05.2026

It's rare to see non-financial metrics in a long-term executive incentive plan. Is this due to a strongly held view or because it's tough to explain? In our closing episode of Season 1, Aalap and Mark explore the difficulty—and possible benefit—of this compensation plan design.

S1E5: Creating Space for Non-Financial Metrics 15.05.2026

An executive incentive program based solely on financial metrics certainly aligns with the shareholder experience. When the goal is long-term value creation, does it ever make sense to introduce a non-financial metric? In this episode, Mark and Aalap say yes, sometimes.

S1E4: Testing Assumptions: Do We Have the Right Metrics? 15.05.2026

How do you know if an executive incentive plan is delivering on the sought-after results? In this episode, Mark and Aalap dissect relative metrics (including some pitfalls with rTSR) and how correlation analysis can help pinpoint whether or not the program is aligned with the long-term value creation.

S1E1: Is it Feeling Like Spring 2020? 15.05.2026

In the inaugural episode of Pearl Meyer Unscripted , managing directors Mark Rosen and Aalap Shah discuss client concerns about recently approved short- and long-term incentive plans in the context of current market volatility and a wide variety of unknowns.

S1E3: The Near-Term Problem with Long-Term Forecasting 15.05.2026

There aren't many compensation committee members who would argue the fact that it's increasingly difficult to balance a true, three-year performance period with accurately targeted goals. Mark and Aalap weigh the pros and cons of various creative ideas that can take the sting out of current long-term incentive plan design challenges.

S1E2: Management's Annual Incentive Plan Targets: Stretch Goals or Layups? 15.05.2026

In our second episode of Pearl Meyer Unscripted , Mark and Aalap share ideas for smoothing out potential tension between the board and management around rigor of the annual incentive plan targets. They talk about various sensitivity tools and analyses that can help everyone get on the same page and turn their focus to attainment.

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