Pastor Pastor

As we launch Season 2, Wes draws on his decades of experience as both a husband and pastor as he and Rob discuss godly communication. Learn the importance of closing the loop, how to listen with understanding, and why it's sometimes wise to say nothing at all. There's also a thought-provoking dive into technology and communication. Don't miss this episode filled with steps you can take today to st...

As we wrap up Season 1 of “Pastor Pastor,” we’ve put together a special episode filled with highlights from the year. As we look back, we're reminded of what a blessing this season was to produce. It's been an even greater blessing to receive such encouraging feedback from you, our listeners. We look forward to Season 2, and thank you for being part of this ministry.

Episode 15 of “Pastor Pastor” dives deep into the heart of pastoral ministry as Wes answers the critical but often neglected question, "What does it mean to shepherd as a soul physician?" Listen as Wes and Rob explore how pastors can discern the spiritual health of those entrusted to their care without becoming 'soul police'.  Their conversation will stretch your understanding of pastoral care and...

Seminary education was once the gold standard for pastoral training. What's changed, and why does it matter? In today's episode of "Pastor Pastor," Wes dives into the shifting landscape of pastoral preparation, from apprenticeships to the rise of seminaries to today's dramatic increase in online studies. He discusses why fewer pastors pursue seminary training and the ripple effects this trend may...

How did New England go from a Puritan haven to a post-Christian landscape littered with empty churches? In this episode of Pastor Pastor, Wes takes us on a captivating journey through the rise and fall of the church in New England, through the so-called Enlightenment and the Great Awakenings, and onto the mission field that is New England today. Learn what is needed to set the table for revival, h...

In Episode 12 of "Pastor Pastor," we pick up our conversation with Wes and Sue with their seminary years. With her characteristic warmth and candor, Sue offers a behind-the-scenes look at life as Wes's faithful ministry partner throughout seminary, a church plant, and the conception of NETS. You'll discover the unique role of a pastor's wife (it might surprise you!), the particular challenges of m...

In Episode 11 of "Pastor Pastor," we're joined by Wes's wife, Sue, for a candid conversation about the people and events that shaped her journey to faith, the love story that brought the couple together, and the affection and convictions that have forged their partnership in ministry and in life. Sue is Lead Women's Mentor for NETS, and her practical wisdom, sharp strategic mind, and ability to em...

In Episode 10 of “Pastor Pastor”, Wes and Rob are joined by Reverend Shadrach Vegah, NETS graduate and the founding pastor of Gospel Baptist Church in Cameroon, as well as the NETS Center for Church Planting and Revitalization in Africa. Together, they explore the unique dynamics of church life in Cameroon, comparing what’s familiar and what’s distinct from the American church experience.  Shadrac...

In Episode 9 of "Pastor Pastor," Wes explains how the NETS Residency Program equips pastors to become exceptional preachers. Wes and Rob dive into the heart of the NETS Residency Program’s exegesis, theology, and preaching track, and its focus on crafting sermons that stay true to Scripture and are deeply relevant for the congregation. They also discuss the unique challenges and opportun...

In Episode 8, Wes takes us back to the days of the first NETS residents and delves into the Residency Program's unique blend of academics, applied learning, and missionary sending. Then Wes and Rob explore the Residency Program's Personal and Family track, including the critical role of the pastor's wife. Find out what listening to your wife has to do with successful pastoral leadership and discov...

In episode 7 of Pastor Pastor, we examine the nature of true conversion and the perils of being deceived about our own salvation. Wes reflects on the early years of Christ Memorial Church and the surprising movement of God’s Spirit in committed members who were professing faith. As their eyes were opened and their hearts truly transformed, the evidence of God's saving work became clear to thos...

In Episode 6, Rob and Wes welcome a special guest to the studio—a pastor who graduated from the NETS Residency Program in 2016 and is now leading a vibrant, growing church in the heart of the Middle East. But his influence doesn’t stop there; he’s also at the forefront of a global training program that's sending pastors to plant churches around the world. This conversation is filled with gospe...

In Episode 5, we delve into what it means to lead with courage and clarity. Wes discusses topics including, baptizing young children, guiding parishioners on communion, and leading the Elder board. He highlights the lead pastor’s pivotal role in advancing the church and shares insights on leading with love and compassion, especially on difficult issues. Tune in for an important conversation on how...

In this special episode of  Pastor Pastor,  we're exploring the brand new Pastoral Summer Internship Program held at the NETS campus in Williston, Vermont. Recorded during the internship in June, this episode features 11 students from colleges and seminaries across the United States. NETS has historically focused on seminary graduates in their Residency program, specifically designed for churc...

In episode 3 of Pastor Pastor, Wes shares stories of the early days of Christ Memorial Church, including what compelled him to plant in the gospel-parched soil of New England. Find out what it means to customize the gospel without compromising it, and how preaching and knowing your people go hand-in-hand in faithfully shepherding a growing church.

Picking up where we left off, Episode 2 of "Pastor Pastor" delves into Wes's decision to pursue further ministry opportunities, leading him to seminary. In this episode, Wes addresses the profound question of what it means to be called into ministry. He reflects on the intense period of mentoring and growth that prepares him and his young family for the formidable task of planting a...

In the debut episode of "Pastor Pastor," we introduce you to Wes Pastor, a seasoned leader in gospel-driven ministry. This episode takes us back to the beginning—Wes's college years, early ministry, and the start of his marriage. These were the formative years that shaped his approach to ministry for the next three decades. Join us for a journey filled with engaging stories, heartfel...