Persephonica and Global Optimism
Outrage + Optimism: The Climate Podcast
Outrage + Optimism: The Climate Podcast is for anyone who is not ready to give up on making the world a better place. For unrivalled conversations with decision makers, visionary thinkers and a community of like-minded climate optimists, join former UN climate chief Christiana Figueres, political strategist Tom Rivett-Carnac and sustainable business consultant Paul Dickinson. Each week they make sense of all the top climate news stories, go behind the scenes at crucial talks and ensure you stay informed and inspired ahead of what is set to be the consequential year for climate action. As we ap...
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Jul 9, 2026
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47. Solidarity and Self-Interest with Professor Joseph Stiglitz (COVID and Climate #3) 10.04.2020 53:47
Tom, Christiana, and Paul are back together (in their separate homes) and we continue our series, searching for how to emerge from the COVID-19 Pandemic better prepared to combat the climate crisis! This week we get a tour of solidarity economics and a treasure trove of economic wisdom from Nobel Memorial Prize Winner, Professor Joseph Stiglitz. The gang chats about what they've been up to in self...
46. Let's Get Ethical with Dr. Fatih Birol (COVID and Climate #2) 03.04.2020 54:55
Week 2 of our series on emerging stronger and better equipped from the coronavirus is here! As many if not all national governments are rolling out stimulus packages to address the economic affects of COVID-19, why should economic stimulus packages be focused on the clean energy transition? Our interview this week is about the importance of ethics-based stimulus packages with Dr. Fatih Birol, Exec...
45. Coming Back Stronger with the Teaching of Thich Nhat Hanh (COVID and Climate #1) 27.03.2020 1:00:57
We're doing something new! This is the first episode on a multiple week journey to discover how we can come back from the crisis of COVID-19 better and stronger in our fight against climate change. In this episode, we are joined by Sister True Dedication and Brother Phap Dung, senior monastics at Plum Village, a monastery started by well-known Buddhist Teacher, Thich Nhat Hanh. Paul brings us an i...
44. Caring in the Times of Corona 20.03.2020 47:58
As the news rolls in everyday from COVID-19, we take a pause to reflect on this past week. The sudden change in human behavior, how governments have done massive interventions to protect citizens, the ambition and action of businesses to slow contamination, and lastly, how humans have rediscovered humanity in caring for one another. Christiana brings a list of amazing things happening in the the m...
43. Coronavirus and The Climate Crisis + Live #TheFutureWeChoose Q+A! 13.03.2020 55:53
With everyone grounded because of COVID-19, Tom and Paul dial each other from their homes in the UK to discuss just what Coronavirus is bringing to light about how we respond to a crisis. We manage to get Christiana on the phone for an update from the book tour in Australia, and we play the incredible live Q+A from #TheFutureWeChoose book event in Washington D.C. "The Future We Choose" is availabl...
42. Stella McCartney is Choosing a Fashionable Future 06.03.2020 1:02:30
Christiana skips over to Paris Fashion Week to meet up with Stella McCartney, sustainable fashion designer. Stella's luxury fashion brand has been animal-free since their founding in 2001. She and Christiana sneak 60 journalists into a secret event at the Opera Garnier and discuss the dark reality of fashion's impact on the environment. You can officially order "The Future We Choose" wherever book...
41. A Live Conversation about "The Future We Choose" with Tom Friedman 28.02.2020 41:44
This week we're LIVE for a #TheFutureWeChoose conversation with NYT columnist and 3 time Pulitzer Prize winner, Tom Friedman. The book is out! You can officially order it now wherever books are sold! Here's the link to order your copy now: https://globaloptimism.com/the-future-we-choose-book/ This episode was recorded at Politics and Prose, a fantastic bookstore in Washington D.C. https://www.poli...
40. John Kerry is Here and He's Not Messing Around 21.02.2020 57:55
The most consequential event this year in climate is the 2020 U.S. Election. Former U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry gets real with us on why some people should be held criminally liable for not acting on climate science, why he's optimistic about the future, and how climate as a voting issue can beat Donald Trump. Pre-order Tom and Christiana's new book, "The Future We Choose" now! GlobalOptimi...
39. Science! Leadership! Action! with Rainn Wilson, Dr. Gail Whiteman, and David Perry 14.02.2020 49:03
This week we deviate from the normal episode with 3 of our friends! First, we meet up with Rainn Wilson (Dwight Schrute / The Office U.S.) and Dr. Gail Whiteman to talk about @ArcticBasecamp's new campaign, "Speak Science To Power" and how we can give power to scientists and bring science into corporate boardrooms everywhere. Later on David Perry (Indigo Ag / Terraton Initiative) tells us why carb...
38. Not All Superheroes Wear Capes with Oliver Bäte 07.02.2020 48:25
This week a special guest drops in to chat with the gang! Hint: He's a "High Level Climate Action Champion" (what a title!) They talk what is crucial to the lead up to COP 26 and why ambition is the heart of driving results this year on climate. Later on we're joined by Oliver Bäte, CEO of Allianz. Oliver is boldly charging the insurance industry to divest from fossil fuels, and leading by example...
37. The Courage and The Clear Sight of Luisa Neubauer 31.01.2020 58:36
At just 23 years of age, Luisa Neubauer is fighting for our future in ways that will shape the future of activism and corporate responsibility forever. A best selling author and #FridaysFor Future activist, Luisa got the attention of the CEO of Siemens over an investment they have in the infamous Adani coal mine in Australia. After Siemens then offers her a position an advisory board for their new...
36. The Great Australian Inferno with Kevin Rudd 23.01.2020 53:54
It's 2020! We're back! It's the "super year" for climate and the most consequential decade in human history! This week Tom and Christiana talk with former Prime Minister of Australia, Kevin Rudd. Kevin shows us the roots of why the Conservative Party in Australia and the Murdoch media empire are perpetuating a state of climate inaction, and why he's optimistic that the Australian fires are the tur...
35. Richard Curtis Has an Optimism That Comes From His Outrage 20.12.2019 45:07
Tom and Christiana interview producer Richard Curtis. Richard is the creator of Bridget Jones Diary, Four Weddings and a Funeral, and Love Actually - but Richard's social work with Comic Relief, Make Poverty History, and the 10:10 campaign are equally as inspiring. Tom, Christiana, and Paul wish listeners a Happy Holidays and talk about the exciting things to come for 2020. "The Future We Choose"...
34. A Live Conversation with Chris Anderson from TED 13.12.2019 53:12
Tom has a in-depth conversation with Chris Anderson of TED and host of the TED Interview podcast. They speak on the history of The Paris Agreement and the ambition that TED has in the new global TEDCountdown initiative for 2020. "The Future We Choose" Pre-sales are available now. WeChooseTheFuture.com Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
33. The Green Belt Movement with Wanjira Mathai 06.12.2019 40:56
This week we have an inspiring conversation with Wanjira Mathai as she talks about The Green Belt Movement, the interconnection of sustainability, and how to combat corruption & greed. We discuss the announcement by the European Investment Bank to stop funding fossil fuels, how psychology professionals plan to work on climate change, and Paul takes us on his trip to the Magic Kingdom. "The Futur...
32. Closing the Emissions Gap with Patricia Espinosa 28.11.2019 38:02
After a devastating UNEP Emissions Gap report details how governments are not doing enough to meet the 1.5C Paris Agreement target, Tom and Paul ask the question, "Can we still do this?" Later, Christiana joins her successor at the UNFCCC, Executive Secretary Patricia Espinosa, for the scoop on what we should expect out of COP25 beginning Monday in Madrid. "The Future We Choose" Pre-sales are avai...
31. How to Face The Mess We're in Without Going Crazy with Joanna Macy 22.11.2019 45:53
As the US approaches Thanksgiving week, we quiet ourselves for an intimate interview with environmental activist, Buddhist scholar, and deep ecologist, Joanna Macy. She shares why we should suffer with the world as we experience the climate crisis, and why that's a tall order for our current political economy. But before that, Paul almost curses about how frustrating Bjorn Lomborg is, and Tom and...
30. Banking on the Climate with Mark Carney 15.11.2019 51:07
This week we drop in to talk money with the Governor of The Bank of England, Mark Carney. Mark is leading the way on banking with the climate in mind, keeping banks accountable for investments towards a Net-Zero 2050. We also discuss the ramifications of the US withdrawing from The Paris Climate Agreement, and we find out why Paul has been intentionally watching Fox News. Hosted on Acast. See acas...
29. The Sounds of Antarctica: A Sonic Expedition! 08.11.2019 44:11
Back in January, Christiana set sail to Antarctica with Homeward Bound, A Global Leadership Initiative for Women with a STEMM background. This week, we play back her recordings, both interviews and immersive nature sounds, that take us on a sonic expedition of what it's really like at the southern most continent. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
28. What a Great IKEA with Jesper Brodin 01.11.2019 39:35
Tom and Christiana are in Costa Rica this week! They reminisce over their time at the UN and discuss how generating business ambition on climate led to national confidence in the Paris Agreement. Later on, Paul and Christiana talk with Jesper Brodin, CEO of IKEA. They get into circularity, clickable furniture, corporate responsibility, and why IKEA is on a mission to prove sustainability is good b...
27. No Room for a Sinking Feeling with Hilda Heine 25.10.2019 39:58
In our new format, this week Tom, Christiana, and Paul bring in what they're optimistic for or outraged by to kick things off. Later on, we talk with President Hilda Heine of The Marshall Islands. We hear how she had never aspired to be President, how optimism in the face of existential adversity is the only way, and why believing the best in humanity is still possible. Hosted on Acast. See acast....
26. Saving the Planet Begins at Breakfast with Jonathan Safran Foer 18.10.2019 48:14
With a little too much going on in the world of climate change, we try something new this week with Christiana, Paul, and Tom each bringing something they are outraged by or optimistic for. Later, we hear from American novelist, Jonathan Safran Foer. His latest and greatest work, "We Are The Weather" is a fresh look at the climate crisis, with a challenge to start saving the planet with your break...
25. Going Beyond Meat with Ethan Brown 11.10.2019 50:40
You've probably been seeing Beyond Meat showing up in your local grocery, your favorite restaurants, and major fast-food chains. But what exactly is it, and can it really help us solve the climate crisis? We talk with Ethan Brown, CEO of Beyond Meat about the truly miraculous innovation of Beyond Meat, and his ethics quest to "separate meat from animals." Also, Paul reveals his deep admiration and...
24. It's Time to Rebel with Gail Bradbrook 04.10.2019 42:04
This week, we prepare for mass civil disobedience with the International Rebellion beginning Monday, October 7th. We get on the line with Gail Bradbrook, co-founder of Extinction Rebellion and hear her explain the shared human experience behind mass civil disobedience, and finding ourselves in deeper purpose through grief and suffering. We may or may not also bring up a few other light topics like...
23. Innovating Breakthroughs with Sir Richard Branson 27.09.2019 45:48
It's been a busy week at the UNGA! We signed The Climate Pledge with Jeff Bezos from Amazon, saw world leaders stepping up their climate ambition, heard Greta Thunberg's scathing speech, and even had time to fire up the ol' anti-echo machine. Later in the episode we catch a few minutes with Sir Richard Branson, the man behind Virgin. We get into the green innovations he is working on, and discuss...
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