Tom Nixon and John Nixon
Out of the Main
“Out of the Main” is a podcast celebrating one of the most proficient and accomplished eras of musicianship and studio production, including yacht rock, west coast AOR, and related sophisticated music from the 1970s and 80s. “Out of the Main” was launched by two of the era's biggest fans—both musicians themselves—who, like a growing wave of aficionados all around the world, have been exploring the history, the enjoyment, and now the future potential of the West Coast sound, even as it continues to this day. Join the revelry. Partake in the nostalgia. Tune in to artist interviews. Discover
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Tom Nixon and John Nixon
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Jul 9, 2026
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Episodes
Episode 21.40: Album Focus: Boz Scaggs’ Silk Degrees 07.10.2021 49:51
We couldn’t do a series on album focuses without hitting on the iconic Silk Degrees album from Boz Scaggs. Listen in as John and Tom dissect and discuss one of the yacht rock’s true gems.......or is it? Things Discussed: History, context and tale of the tape Is it yacht, or is it nyahct? Personnel and the pursuit of perfection Track-by-track analysis Yes, it’s a masterpiece...regardless of how sea...
Episode 21.39: An Interview with Marc Jordan 30.09.2021 53:20
If you even scratch the surface trying to explore the essence of true yacht rock, it won’t be long until you discover Marc Jordan. John and Tom had the privilege of chatting with Marc to hear his story, from the pre-yacht-rock years, through his westcoast recording career, along his journey as a song writer, and eventually making our way to present day. Stories and anecdotes NOT to be missed...PLU...
Episode 21.38: Bill Schnee, Part 2 23.09.2021 47:38
Part 2 of our interview with Bill Schnee: John and Tom have the privilege and honor of welcoming legendary producer, engineer, mixer and genius mastermind Bill Schnee to the podcast. Discussing his yacht rock career and beyond (before and after), we cover the stories behind Bill’s memoirs as told in his not-to-be-missed book, “Chairman at the Board, Recording the Soundtrack of a Generation.” Bill’...
Episode 21.37: Chairman at the Board, Bill Schnee 15.09.2021 50:28
John and Tom have the privilege and honor of welcoming legendary producer, engineer, mixer and genius mastermind Bill Schnee to the podcast. Discussing his yacht rock career and beyond (before and after), we cover the stories behind Bill’s memoirs as told in his not-to-be-missed book, “Chairman at the Board, Recording the Soundtrack of a Generation.” Bill’s storytelling will have you rapt in music...
Ep. 21.36: Before, During and After, with Franke, John and Stacy 09.09.2021 55:23
In an episode that focuses on the art of songwriting, John and Tom are joined by three decorated song writers whose paths crossed in various interesting ways, starting in the yacht rock era: Franke Previte, John DeNicola and Stacy Widelitz. From the founding of Franke and the Knockouts, through to a serendipity of their collaborations on the Dirty Dancing soundtrack, to what’s happening now, we co...
Episode 21.35: Near Misses 02.09.2021 50:29
The co-captains are feeling a little nyachty this week, as we segue out of the safe harbors of summer yacht rock season and into chillier climes of a September to come. Things Discussed: What makes a near miss...miss the mark? If you could change one thing in Song X, would that make a near miss yachty? Some examples: The Near Misses playlist on Spotify An Announcement! What’s coming this fall to O...
Episode 21.34: Carrying the Torch, with NuCoast Breeze’s Erik Mattox 26.08.2021 50:46
Subject matter expert Erik Mattox from NuCoast Breeze and Westcoast Breeze joins the podcast to dive deep into the modern yacht rock artists who are carrying the torch from the keepers of the fire of yesteryear, intentionally producing music with a West Coast vibe and yacht rock flare. Things Discussed: Did the fire never really die out? Who was the first torch bearer, and when did they pick it up...
Episode 21.33: Hyacht Takes 19.08.2021 48:05
Inspired by a recent episode of Rick Beato’s YouTube series, a session they called “Better or Worse,” John and Tom tee up debatable statements for your and their consideration and arguing. Not hot takes…but Hyacht Takes! But first, some interesting Viewer Mail. Hyacht Takes Debated: David Foster is a more significant producer than Quincy Jones. Player is more famous than Ambrosia. Steve Lukather i...
Episode 21.32: Tris Imboden, Part Two 12.08.2021 41:04
Part two of our conversation with legendary session and touring drummer Tris Imboden. In this installment, learn more about the Chicago years and since, including a major announcement about what's happening now! Things Discussed: How Tris learned and taught himself to play The Kenny Loggins Band years The Chicago era Other performances, sessions and tales from the road Jeff Porcaro, master prankst...
Episode 21.31: Keeping the Fire, with Tris Imboden 05.08.2021 46:36
Legendary session and touring drummer Tris Imboden climbs aboard the yacht rock podcast, “Out of the Main,” to discuss the yacht rock years, what’s happened since, and—yes!—what’s happening now! Things Discussed: How Tris learned and taught himself to play The Kenny Loggins Band years The Chicago era Other performances, sessions and tales from the road Jeff Porcaro, master prankster Breaking news!...
Episode 21.30: Gaucho Album Focus, Chapter 2 29.07.2021 35:50
A continuation of last week’s episode is Chapter 2 of John’s and Tom’s deep dive into the mastery, history and lustery of Steely Dan’s “Gaucho.” Check out the album’s place in the yacht rock pantheon this week on the Out of the Main podcast! Things Discussed: Historical context and references Overall texture and sonic genius Lyrical exploration Commercial and critical success Wendell, the first-ev...
Episode 21.29: Album Focus: Steely Dan’s Gaucho 22.07.2021 45:34
John and Tom book-end their Aja album focus episode with an episode diving deep into the mastery, history and lustery of Steely Dan’s “Gaucho.” Check out the album’s place in the yacht rock pantheon this week on the Out of the Main podcast! Things Discussed: Historical context and references Overall texture and sonic genius Lyrical exploration Commercial and critical success Wendell, the first-eve...
Episode 21.28: It’s the Out of the Main Game Show! 15.07.2021 37:05
John and Tom launch their late-70s-themed game show, complete with guessing games and yachtski scale face-offs, with the winner earning the right to play in the Lightning Round. Come on down, and play along with your version of the home game...without going over! Rounds: Guess My Top Five Higher or Lower Who Ranked Higher? Guess the Yachtski Scale Rating ...who gets to play in the... The Lightning...
Episode 21.27: Ted Templeman Book, Chapter 2 08.07.2021 42:47
Part 2 of the conversation about “Ted Templeman: A Platinum Producer’s Life in Music.” John regales Tom with countless stories and factoids, including a very interesting story about the difficulty in finding the “Doobie Bounce” during the recording of “What a Fool Believes.” Check out the life and times of one of the yachtiest producers of all time! Things Discussed in Part 2: Working with Nicolet...
Episode 21.26: Producer Focus: Ted Templeman 01.07.2021 46:36
The guys return to the “Out of the Main” Book Club, upon John completing his read of “Ted Templeman: A Platinum Producer’s Life in Music.” Tom is regaled with countless stories and factoids, including a very interesting story about the difficulty in finding the “Doobie Bounce” during the recording of “What a Fool Believes.” Check out the life and times of one of the yachtiest producers of all time...
Episode 21.25: Top Ten, One Year Later 24.06.2021 53:11
Approaching the one-year anniversary of the launch of Out of the Main, Tom and John count down their Top 10 lists as they exist today to examine how they compare and contrast to what their Top 10 lists may have looked like a year ago. What’s changed, considering what they’ve learned and discovered along their way in yacht rock exploration, including buried treasures and even plotted points off the...
Episode 21.24: Who Wore It Best? 17.06.2021 53:24
John and Tom bring four #yachtrock standards onto the red carpet this week on the #podcast, comparing and contrasting to determine: “Who Wore It Best?” Any disagreements? Let us know on Facebook! https://www.facebook.com/yachtrockpodcast Songs Considered: 1 - Who’s Right, Who’s Wrong Pages Kenny Loggins Four Tops Al Jarreau, Randy Crawford and Friends: Casino Lights ’81 Live at Montreux 2 - Nothin...
Episode 21.23: Yacht Disco 10.06.2021 49:03
Tom and John travel out of the safe harbor of yacht rock to explore an adjacent sub-genre known as Yacht Disco. Any Yacht Disco experts out there? Let us know on Facebook! https://www.facebook.com/yachtrockpodcast Things Discussed: Historical context and significance Who were the players and what were the crossovers? Where does Yacht Disco end and actual Disco begin? Songs referenced on this episo...
Episode 21.22: Album Focus: “Christopher Cross” 03.06.2021 58:14
Tom and John do their deep dive into an iconic record, Christopher Cross’s debut album. Plus, another major announcement? And somebody’s gonna Make. Their. Case! What are your takes on “Christopher Cross?” Let us know on Facebook! https://www.facebook.com/yachtrockpodcast Things Discussed: Historical context and significance Personnel and production Commercial success and critical reception Track-...
Episode 21.21: Special Guest, John Hall of Orleans 27.05.2021 46:16
John Hall, founding member, lead singer and guitarist from Orleans, joins the podcast to discuss his newest release, the “yacht rock years,” and everything that’s happened in between, including rejoining Orleans and serving in Congress! Things Discussed: John Hall’s latest solo album, "Reclaiming My Time," dropping May 28th, 2021 Stories and tales from the 70s Collaborating with song writer and (e...
Episode 21.20: As Seen on TV 20.05.2021 51:59
Returning to a "Catch of the Day” show we aired several weeks prior, John and Tom dive back into the cultural phenomenon that was sweeping the nation, before we even knew it was a thing: How did Yacht Rock and yacht rock artists influence television shows and theme songs. Did we leave anything out? Let us know on Facebook! https://www.facebook.com/yachtrockpodcast Things Discussed: Sitcoms and dra...
Episode 21.19: Kenny vs. Michael, in the Octagon! 13.05.2021 41:54
Kenny Loggins versus Michael McDonald—who you got?! Tom and John debate the pros and cons, scoring the yacht rock face-off of the century. Who will win this Battle Royale? Will it be a cage match? Two enter…will only one survive? It’s not the Bungle in the Jungle, but it is just might be the all-time Bout on the Boat! Who do you have on your card? Let us know on Facebook! https://anchor.fm/yachtro...
Episode 21.18: Dane Donohue & Keith Barry, Part 2 06.05.2021 39:54
Tune into the podcast for Part 2 of our interview with yacht rock legend Dane Donohue discussing life after rock and roll, his big break, the making of a masterpiece with hall of famers, and much much more. Keith Barry, journalist with Narratively.com , told the story we all needed to hear: whatever happened? Part two of our interview with “the lost prince of yacht rock.” Read the article to get t...
Episode 21.17: Special Guests Dane Donohue and Keith Barry 29.04.2021 46:37
Yacht rock legend Dane Donohue joins the podcast to discuss life after rock and roll, his big break, the making of a masterpiece with hall of famers, and much, much more. Keith Barry, journalist with Narratively.com , told the story we all needed to hear: whatever happened? Part one of a two-part interview with “the lost prince of yacht rock.” Read the article to get the entire story: https://narr...
Episode 21.16: Make the Case! (Maiden Voyage) 22.04.2021 50:35
It’s time…to MAKE. YOUR. CASE! John and Tom explore a new trading channel, as they embark on a new maiden voyage to discuss whether and how people can make their case that a given song should be reconsidered as yachty, even if it breaks some of the rules. Does their case have merit? How do you rule? Shall you sentence them to the brig? Listen in. Chime in. And…MAKE…the CASE! Want to make the case...
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