Out of Interest Podcast

Rana Hussain is one of the most influential voices in Australian sport and media, but her story isn’t about trying to be seen. In fact, she used to run from it. As a proud Muslim woman, Rana never set out to lead. But over time, her presence became a message in itself and she realised if she didn’t take up space, someone else would do it for her. In this episode, we go deep on what it means to rep...

In this powerful episode, we sit down with former AFL player Ahmed Saad , a trailblazer and one of only a handful of Muslim athletes to make it to the elite level of Australian Rules Football. Born in Australia but raised in Egypt for six years, Ahmed opens up about his humble beginnings, his first love of soccer, and how fate (and a friend’s invitation) led him to try Aussie Rules — a sport he kn...

This week on Out of Interest, we’re joined by one of Australia’s most respected and fearless crime journalists - Andrew Rule. With a career spanning over four decades, Andrew has spent his life diving deep into the world of crime, corruption, and the human stories behind headlines. He’s best known as the co-creator of the iconic Underbelly TV series, which was based on the explosive books he co-wr...

Join us in this heartfelt conversation with Leila McDougall, an extraordinary woman whose journey embodies resilience, determination, and genuine Australian spirit. Leila opens up about the raw realities of running a farm—revealing the heavy burdens, isolation, financial pressures, and generational debt often passed down within farming families. She courageously shares her personal struggles, from...

In this episode of Out of Interest , Ali and Muzza sit down with Dr. Ali Abdo — 3x Olympian, osteopath, and one of the most respected wrestling figures in Australia. From representing Australia on the Olympic stage to now mentoring the next generation of young athletes, Dr. Ali shares a deeply personal journey of sacrifice, discipline, and cultural pride. But more than just athletic success, this...

This week, we sit down with rising motorsport star James Wharton, an Australian racing driver making waves in Formula 3 with his sights set on Formula 1. From moving to Italy at just 10 years old to joining the Ferrari Driver Academy, James shares his journey, the sacrifices he’s made, and the brutal reality of what it takes to reach the top of motorsport. In this episode, James gives an inside lo...

2025 marks a defining moment for Hejaz, and this episode is your exclusive behind-the-scenes look at what’s next! After an unbelievable year of growth, Hejaz Founder & CEO Hakan Ozyon joins the boys for an eye-opening conversation about scaling a business beyond borders, breaking new ground in Islamic finance, and the details behind the companies expansion to Bahrain. With Hejaz expanding into...

In this episode of the Out of Interest Podacst, we sit down with James Webb, Australia’s #1 competitive eater and ranked #4 in the world! James shares his incredible journey from a bodybuilder and corporate worker to a professional eater competing on the global stage. We discuss his first burger challenge that went viral, his transition into competitive eating, and how he turned a passion for food...

In a world dominated by social media, shifting gender roles, and evolving cultural norms, relationships have never been more complicated. In this episode of the Out of Interest podcast, we explore why modern marriages and relationships are facing unprecedented challenges. From the rise of dating apps and the "woke" movement to skyrocketing divorce rates, we tackle questions like: Are tra...

In this captivating episode of the Out of Interest podcast, we sit down with futurist, technologist, and author Steve Sammartino to explore the rapidly changing world we live in and the groundbreaking technologies shaping our future. Steve pulls no punches as he shares his bold predictions and controversial insights, offering a glimpse into what’s ahead for society, technology, and the economy. We...

In this episode, we sit down with Rustam, a content creator who gave up his $200k/year accounting job to follow his passion for TikTok and helping others. Rustam shares his journey, starting out as a dishwasher in Melbourne after moving from Kazakhstan at 19. With little money, no family nearby, and his parents sacrificing everything - including selling their home to pay for his education - Rustam...

In this engaging episode of the Out of Interest podcast, Ali and Muzza dive deep with Nick Bell, the straight-talking entrepreneur and Shark Tank Australia investor. Nick opens up about his journey from humble beginnings to a net worth that’s a game-changer in the business world. He shares unfiltered insights on the grind of starting and scaling companies, explaining why he prefers to go solo in b...

In this episode of Out of Interest, Ali and Muzza sit down with Louis Phillips – a dedicated runner, content creator, and founder of the Interval app – to discuss how running can go from a dreaded task to an enjoyable and rewarding part of life. Louis opens up about his journey, from finding himself lost after appearing on Big Brother to discovering the mental and physical benefits of running as a...

In this episode of Out of Interest, hosts Ali and Muzza welcome Mariam Huli, an inspiring entrepreneur and mother of five, who shares her journey and insights on overcoming cultural expectations and building a successful skincare business. Mariam discusses her experiences growing up between Australia and Lebanon, navigating life in war zones, and the challenges of being a young mother. Together, t...

In this episode of Out of Interest, we dive into the topic of the upcoming US election and the wide-reaching effects it will have on us here in Australia. Our guests, Ali, Muzza, and Hakan, unpack the various ways the results of this election could shape our economy, influence international relationships, and alter global dynamics that directly affect Australia. We begin by exploring how the US, a...

In this episode of Out of Interest, we sit down with Mick Liubinskas, an entrepreneur, angel investor, climate tech advocate, and co-founder of Pollenizer and Climate Salad. Mick’s extensive experience in sustainability and innovation positions him as a leading voice in the climate tech space. He shares powerful insights on how individuals, businesses, and governments can make tangible changes to...

In this episode, we sit down with Simon Newton, a former British soldier, Hollywood body double, and celebrity bodyguard, whose career has taken him from military deployments in Iraq to protecting some of the biggest names in entertainment. Simon kicks things off by sharing his journey into the military, explaining that his decision wasn’t driven by patriotism but by a strong desire to be a soldie...

In this powerful episode of the Out of Interest Podcast, recorded during our time in London, we sit down with the incredibly talented Harry Pinero, a London-born social media star, YouTuber, and sports presenter known for his work with major content creators like Beta Squad. Harry opens up about the challenges of balancing his Muslim faith while navigating the entertainment industry and being in t...

In this episode of the Out of Interest Podcast, we sit down with former Richmond and GWS Giants AFL star Brett Deledio . Brett takes us through his incredible career in footy and his transition from being one of the AFL’s top players to now mentoring the next generation as a player manager. Brett begins by reflecting on his early years at Richmond, where he was thrust into the spotlight as the #1...

In this episode of the Out of Interest podcast, we sit down with Jeff Morgan, whose life story is nothing short of jaw-dropping. Once a key member of the infamous Sledgehammer Gang, Jeff spent years pulling off bank heists and living a life most people only see in movies. But his story doesn’t end there. Jeff takes us through his early years, growing up in an Aboriginal community, and how the envi...

In this eye-opening episode of the Out of Interest Podcast, Ali and Mazza sit down with true crime author Vikki Petraitis for an honest and insightful conversation.  Vikki shares her journey from teaching to writing about some of Australia’s most notorious crimes, including the Frankston murders. She dives into the psychology behind serial killers, the emotional toll on victims' families, and...

In today’s powerful episode, we sit down with the legendary Wayne Schwass. Wayne is a former AFL champion who played 282 games over an outstanding career with North Melbourne and the Sydney Swans. He’s a two-time premiership player, known for his tenacity on the field and respected as one of the game’s fiercest competitors. But beyond his football accolades, Wayne has become a leading advocate for...

In this episode of the Out of Interest podcast, Christian Welch, former Melbourne Storm captain, discusses his journey from Brisbane to NRL stardom, the AFL vs. NRL rivalry, and the challenges of his career, including injuries and representing Queensland in State of Origin. This episode offers a personal look at the life of an NRL star and the unique culture of the Melbourne Storm. ---------------...

This podcast episode features Ramis Ansari, a popular content creator from Sydney, as the guest. The hosts discuss various topics, including the challenges and opportunities of content creation, the importance of authenticity, and the moral considerations in business collaborations.  Ramis shares his journey from being a chartered accountant to a full-time content creator, emphasizing the need for...

In this deeply moving episode of Out of Interest, we explore the extraordinary life and work of Ahmad, a viral sensation known for his profound insights on one of life’s most challenging and inevitable experiences: death. Ahmad has dedicated his life to the sacred task of preparing the deceased for their final rest, a responsibility that demands not only physical strength but immense emotional res...