American Bar Association
Our Curious Amalgam
Our Curious Amalgam explores topics in antitrust, competition, consumer protection, data protection, and privacy law around the world with leading experts in those areas. It is an amalgam because it is a group of diverse topics all in one place. It is curious because it gets the experts and asks them in-depth questions.
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Jul 6, 2026
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#310 What Do Enforcers Say? A Global Perspective on Antitrust Issues Involving Cloud Computing & Infrastructure 27.01.2025 44:47
Regulators around the world have raised antitrust concerns over concentrated control of key inputs into AI development and deployment, with access to cloud computing as one area of focus. What are the key concerns and proposed actions? A panel of experts from Argentina, Brazil, and the U.S. speak with Koren Wong-Ervin and Anora Wang on thoughts on the theories of harm, as well as possible efficien...
#309 Can You Click, Cancel, and Comply? How the FTC Is Unsubscribing Businesses From Deceptive Practices 20.01.2025 20:11
The FTC's new "Click-to-Cancel" rule is reshaping consumer protection and compliance in the subscription economy. But what challenges and opportunities does this regulation present for businesses? Panos Dimitrellos and Jaclyn Phillips explore these issues with guest Christi Lawson, partner at Foley & Lardner, discussing the rule's legal, economic, and behavioral implications, as well as potential...
#308 What Makes a Compliance Program Effective? The DOJ's Updated Corporate Antitrust Compliance Program Guidance 13.01.2025 34:53
The U.S. Department of Justice Antitrust Division recently updated its guidance regarding the division's "Evaluation of Corporate Compliance Programs in Criminal Antitrust Investigations." What are the key changes? In this episode, Alicia Downey and Anora Wang talk to Emma Burnham, Antitrust Division Director of Criminal Enforcement, about how prosecutors assess the effectiveness of corporate anti...
#307 Will the Past Be the Future? Looking Back at 2024 and Forward to 2025 06.01.2025 32:14
Happy New Year to OCA listeners everywhere! Antitrust was a hot topic in 2024, and it's poised to get even hotter in 2025. In Our Curious Amalgam's year-end special episode, six of our regular hosts offer their perspectives on 2024's notable developments and trends in criminal antitrust enforcement, monopolization and merger challenges, international competition law, consumer protection, and data...
#306 How Do I Make a Competition Law Complaint in India? A Practical Discussion About Approaching the CCI 30.12.2024 43:27
India is now one of the most important competition law jurisdictions in the world. With direct court action against anti-competitive practices not an option, how can a third party seek to persuade the Competition Commission of India to become involved? Abir Roy, partner and co-founder of Sarvada Legal, joins Matthew Reynolds and Matthew Hall to discuss the underlying rules and practical issues inv...
#305 Is It Fair? The FTC's Policies and Enforcement Actions on Unfair Methods of Competition Under Section 5 23.12.2024 32:51
The FTC's unfair competition enforcement policy under FTC Act Section 5 has frequently been in the headlines the past two years. What is the history of Section 5 enforcement and how has the Commission utilized this tool since issuing its 2022 Policy Statement on unfair methods of competition? Hosts Jeny Maier and Sergei Zaslavsky explore the many aspects of Section 5 unfair competition enforcement...
#304 Is Per Se Here to Stay? Criminal Antitrust Cases Beyond United States v. Brewbaker 16.12.2024 27:02
In the U.S., so-called "per se" antitrust crimes require nothing more than proof that the conduct occurred, relieving prosecutors of the difficult job of proving harm to competition. Is the Fourth Circuit's 2023 opinion in U.S. v. Brewbaker part of a growing judicial trend toward limiting the prosecution of per se cases? Ann O'Brien, the co-leader of Sheppard Mullin's Antitrust and Competition Pra...
#303 You're Charging Me How Much? A Discussion of Personalized and Surveillance Pricing 09.12.2024 25:55
With the greater availability of data and algorithms, firms in today's digital age are increasingly generating prices or price recommendations based on individual consumers' personal characteristics and behaviors. Does this benefit or harm consumers, and how should policymakers respond? Sanjog Misra, a Professor of Marketing and Applied AI at the University of Chicago and thought leader on persona...
#302 Are the Critics Wrong? How the Robinson-Patman Act Has Been Misunderstood by Its Detractors 02.12.2024 28:30
The Robinson-Patman Act (RPA) has a long, controversial history within U.S. antitrust law and economics. In this episode, Mark Poe, an attorney who specializes in RPA litigation, discusses the RPA with hosts Puja Patel and Aaron Yeater. Mark and the hosts explore Mark's view that traditional critics of RPA are incorrect, which he first presented in a recent article in Antitrust Magazine. With spec...
#301 Are Airline Mergers Taking Off? Economic Analyses of the Recent U.S. Passenger Airline Transactions 25.11.2024 38:39
The U.S. passenger airlines have been active in mergers and acquisitions since last year or so, with the Alaska/Hawaiian acquisition, the failed JetBlue/Spirit merger, and more being proposed. But how are these deals and airline competition in general analyzed from an economic perspective? Dr. Gautam Gowrisankaran, Professor of Economics at Columbia University and Senior Advisor at Cornerstone Res...
#300 What's on the Radar? Legal and Regulatory Analysis of Airline Mergers in the U.S. 18.11.2024 42:03
The U.S. passenger airlines have seen waves of active mergers and acquisitions including in 2009 through 2013 and again recently since 2023. But who is involved in the legal and regulatory reviews of an airline merger? Courtney Dyer of O'Melveny and David Heffernan of Cozen O'Connor, both with extensive experiences guiding airlines through regulatory processes, speak to Kelsey Paine and Anora Wang...
#299 Who Is Lesley Fair? A Conversation With a Consumer Protection Law Legend 11.11.2024 34:02
On the occasion of Lesley Fair's retirement after 37 years in the Bureau of Consumer Protection at the Federal Trade Commission, she returns to Our Curious Amalgam to talk with co-hosts Alicia Downey and Jaclyn Phillips about some of the highlights of her illustrious career. Lesley has been described as "the voice of the FTC," with a unique ability to translate the agency's work into plain English...
#298 What Has Happened to Merger Control in India? The Impact of the September 2024 Changes 04.11.2024 33:34
Significant changes to the Indian merger control regime came into effect in September 2024. But what has happened? Nisha Kaur Uberoi, partner at JSA law firm in Mumbai, joins Puja Patel and Matthew Hall to discuss the changes and their likely practical impact on transactions affecting India. Listen to this episode to learn more about the changes including the new deal value threshold, the codifica...
#297 HSR You Kidding Me? Unpacking the New Requirements for Merging Parties in the U.S. 28.10.2024 31:28
Over a year after the FTC and DOJ first announced changes to the premerger notification form and associated rules under the Hart-Scott-Rodino Act, the final rules were released in October 2024. What do these new HSR rules mean in practice for parties to transactions that must make an HSR filing? Daniel Rosenthal, Special Counsel at Milbank, joins hosts Jaclyn Phillips and Matt Tabas to discuss the...
#296 How Should Competition Law Be Dealing With AI and Climate Change? 21.10.2024 28:12
Can competition law save humanity? Over the past two years, Fiona Schaeffer has spurred on the lawyers, regulators, and economists of the ABA Antitrust Law Section to examine the role that antitrust law has, or potentially will have, in dealing with the existential challenges posed by climate change and the rise of artificial intelligence. In this episode, co-hosts Alicia Downey and Anora Wang tal...
#295 More or (Even) Less Certainty in EU Merger Control? The European Court of Justice Judgment in Illumina/GRAIL 14.10.2024 37:21
The European Commission's attempt to claim jurisdiction under the EU merger rules over Illumina's acquisition of GRAIL ultimately resulted in a stinging court defeat for the regulator. But why did it lose and what will happen now to merger reviews of "below threshold" transactions in the EU? Nicole Kar, partner at Paul, Weiss in London, joins Matthew Hall and James Hunsberger to discuss the Commis...
#294 Acquisitions or Not? Big Tech's Big Problems Investing in Artificial Intelligence 07.10.2024 24:06
It's no secret that competition agencies in the U.S. and elsewhere have been scrutinizing Big Tech's efforts to acquire emerging players in the AI space. In this episode, Luis Blanquez of Bona Law, P.C., talks to co-hosts Alicia Downey and Anant Raut about how the enforcers' concerns are now extending to investments, licensing deals, and other types of transactions that fall outside merger clearan...
#293 Is the EU Position Now Clear? The European Commission's Draft Guidelines on Exclusionary Abuses of Dominance 30.09.2024 39:38
The European Commission's draft guidelines on exclusionary abuses of dominance will, once adopted, be a key document when applying EU competition law. But what is in the draft? Rona Bar-Isaac, head of competition at Addleshaw Goddard in London, joins Matthew Hall and Derek Jackson to discuss the draft guidelines and a controversial European Court of Justice judgment which was released soon after t...
#292 Thinking About Going Small? Starting Up a Solo or Small Firm Antitrust Practice 23.09.2024 32:08
Can a Big Law antitrust practitioner have a successful career as a solo or small firm lawyer? In this episode, antitrust trial lawyer Sean Gates and co-hosts Alicia Downey and Matt Reynolds talk about their experiences leaving large firms to strike out on their own in the middle of their careers. Listen to this episode to learn what motivated them to "go small," and why antitrust law offers unique...
#291 How Was Your Life In Antitrust? A Conversation With Jon Jacobson 16.09.2024 31:52
What were the cases and controversies that defined a decades-long career as an antitrust lawyer and scholar? Hosts Alicia Downey and Subrata Bhattacharjee welcome former Antitrust Law Section Chair Jon Jacobson back to the podcast to talk about his newly-published memoir of the highs and lows of litigating some of the biggest antitrust cases in U.S. legal history. Listen to this episode to learn h...
#290 Who Is Aviva Will? Antitrust Lawyer and Litigation Financing Entrepreneur 09.09.2024 31:46
Antitrust and competition lawyers have a choice of career paths, including private practice, in-house, and public sector. What about the increasingly-important area of litigation finance? Aviva Will, Co-Chief Operating Officer of Burford Capital, joins Alicia Downey and Matthew Hall to discuss her career journey from a law firm to a senior executive role at a publicly traded, global litigation fin...
#289 Is the Failing Firm Defense Thriving? Assessing When a Failing Firm Can Make a Deal Succeed 02.09.2024 23:43
The failing firm defense can be viewed skeptically when put forward by merging parties. But when can it be used successfully to save a deal that may otherwise be found to be anticompetitive? Chris Wilson, partner in the antitrust group of Paul Weiss, joins Jaclyn Phillips and Anora Wang to discuss the current state of the failing firm defense. Listen to this episode if you want to learn more about...
#288 Who Is Steve Cernak? Meet the 2024-25 Chair of the ABA Antitrust Law Section 26.08.2024 23:19
The Antitrust Law Section's new Chair is a lawyer, professor, and author of countless books and articles, with decades of leadership experience in the Section. What changes will he bring? In this episode, co-hosts Alicia Downey and Puja Patel ask Steve Cernak about his unusual career path, the priorities and initiatives he is planning to pursue in his one-year term, and the legal trends that he be...
#287 How Should We Protect Children's Online Privacy? Revisiting the Children's Online Privacy Protection Act (COPPA) 19.08.2024 27:07
Most agree that children's online privacy is important. But how should it be protected? Ryan Durrie, Associate Director of the Cordell Institute at Washington University in St. Louis, joins Christina Ma and Anora Wang to discuss how the Children's Online Privacy Protection Act (or COPPA) protects online privacy today and how it could be reformed. Listen to this episode if you want to learn about t...
#286 What Are the Perils of Privacy Law? Evolutions of the Children's Online Privacy and Protection Act (COPPA) 12.08.2024 35:09
Privacy law has become increasingly relevant and important with the advent of the internet and all things digital and most agree that these laws should protect children's privacy, in particular. But what are the tradeoffs? James Cooper, Professor of Law and Economics at Scalia Law School at George Mason University, joins Christina Ma and Anora Wang to discuss the Children's Online Privacy and Prot...
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