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Well we haven't seen one of these in a while, and we're glad we could compile more of your own ghost stories to share with the world, or at least our listeners. We've got a few shorties, some that travel across multiple states, and some that may not just be tied to locations, but the people themselves. So listen up, cause you may hear your own stories today, but you definitely don't hear that scra...

We all know reality television is low key a nightmare as it is, but what if we took reality tv and made it, somehow, even worse? You get some of the most questionable shows we could find. It's hard to believe some of these concepts even got past the writing boards, but anything for entertainment we guess.   Donate monthly here: https://www.patreon.com/orsotheysaypod Or a once off here: https://www...

Another week, another haunt. This week we are in Atchison Kansas chasing down the ghost of a girl whose last thoughts were that of torture and abandonment. Her spirit still lingers to play with visitors, or in some cases, warn them of who else lurks in the home. It's probably gonna be a hot one today, so sweat through this with us as we live vicariously through Sam, Colby, Nick, and Ryan.   Donate...

Well, it seems we've found ourselves at another bar and brothel, but every time has a pretty good time, so why not do it again. The small saloon in Alaska has been around for over a hundred years, and given the nature of the business it's no surprise that there have been some spirits left behind along the way. So take a casual trip all the way over to Alaska to grab a bite to eat and learn about t...

Well it feels like forever since we've been back, but Kelsey's back from vacation, so now we're here, and we hope we don't disappoint. We haven't talked ghosts in a while, and you can tell by the longer episode (sorry). We're dealing with another location that claims to be one of the most haunted in the US, possibly the world, and honestly, this is one of the largest body counts we've had in an ep...

We're feeling at home this week back in the Midwest, this time in Duluth Minnesota. A ship, turned attraction, turned haunted house actually has some haunted history to it with an unfortunately gruesome death. Are the ships namesake, his wife, and poor William still hanging around today? Let's see what the investigators have to say.    Donate monthly here: https://www.patreon.com/orsotheysaypod Or...

How could a state have two state capitols? Well, Louisiana does, and wouldn't you know it they both have seriously dark pasts and potential paranormal activity. One part ghosts, one part history lessons, these locations have a little something for everyone.    Donate monthly here: https://www.patreon.com/orsotheysaypod Or a once off here: https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=T22PHA8NAUT...

We finally did it everyone, our first episode in our new studio! There's still some work to be done, but we hope eventfully all of it will come together soon. But for now, we find ourselves at the Brookdale Lodge in Brookdale California. This one honestly ends up a little bit somber, so that stinks, but it's still a pretty good location, and a good one to break the new studio in wit, we'd say.   D...

Well, we sure did travel for this months location, but sometimes some legends are better left to the imagination, right?.. Well, lore may say that Linden has one of the spookier sounding paranormal hot spots that we've seen on paper, but turns out lore is sometimes no more than that. But our fruitless efforts took us on a trip to discuss these legends with the locals, and we still got some good st...

This week we're taking you all to Monticello, Arkansas to investigate a house with a pretty sad backstory. The Allen family couldn't seem to catch a break, and as each family member passed it seemed that their spirits always seemed to end up back at home. But one of the saddest stories also holds one of the most active spirits; the spirit of LaDell Allen. Overcome with the pain of lost love , she...

Given the finnicky weather we've been having in the Midwest lately, we're glad to be living vicariously through our location today, Honolulu, Hawaii. According to our studies, if you ask the locals, it seems like everywhere you turn there is another haunted location, but we found one that brings it back to our roots of local lore and legend. Stories that are so spooky they start to blend reality w...

Honestly, we were a little worried about New Mexico delivering a good old fashioned haunted location, but of course they delivered. We always love a good haunted hotel, but the good news and bad news of this one is one of the rooms of the hotel is so haunted, they have prohibited access to it from guests. Even going as far as to padlock the room. So what can be so scary that they have to lock the...

This month our travels brought us a little closer to home as we investigated the (fairly) newly opened location of the Historic Stark Saloon in Rosedale, Indiana. We'd be lying if we said we didn't initially leave this place feeling a bit skeptical, but upon further review and reflection, it seems there may be more here than we initially realized. So let us know, what do you guys think?   Donate m...

We always love when a tangent rolls along, then we have a dedicated time and space to actually go off topic, but still stay on topic, you know? Anyway, when we're not recording this podcast we fill our time with other fixations, and sometimes you're just so immersed in those fixations that you need to tell the world know about them. Sometimes you even find new interests by listening to people tell...

Who knew Idaho could have some unbelievably spooky places? And we mean unbelievable. Some of the evidence people have found here is almost too good to be true, so then, is it really true? The history was shrouded in mystery on this one, but from what we could find, we'd say this place has a right to be haunted.   Donate monthly here: https://www.patreon.com/orsotheysaypod Or a once off here: https...

Well, Florida is un/fortunately a treasure trove of interesting things and happenings, and cults really shouldn't have surprised us. Koreshan Unity had a seemingly quick rise and fall in believers. It may have had something to do with the fact that they believed in reincarnation, but when their founder died he wasn't, you know, reincarnated. Whoopsie daisy. The reason for the hauntings in this loc...

They say the older the building the more haunted it's likely to be, and with a nearly 200 year old building in a 250 year old town we'd say this is a pretty good place to look. Not only does this museum have a few deaths under it's belt, but each room is filled with long forgotten articles of clothing, furniture, military and medical equipment, and of course it has its fair share of creepy dolls a...

Holy cow, it's finally happened. After a long dry spell we have finally investigated a location ourselves! This location came to us from a friend of a friend, and we're glad it happened, because this place was a lot. Not knowing initially what to expect this ended up being much bigger and much more daunting than we had prepared for. And that's just the way we like it. Now let's find out if we foun...

Sanitorium? Sanitarium? Is there really a difference? Well, that depends on who you ask (of course..) Either way, that's where we are, this time in North Dakota! Sometimes lovingly referred to as the sanitorium of DEATH, this hospital is barely a shell of its formal self, actually recently being condemned due to its unsafe conditions. But those that have been fortunate enough to investigate the gr...

New York City is anything but small town America, but we can never resist a good historical background. This building has been around for over 200 years, and has housed one of Americas most notable, and arguably infamous politicians in history. But his temper may have followed him into the afterlife, along with the presence of around 20 other spirits. So what's got these spirits all worked up in o...

Our first visit in 2024 is to Washington state, and of course the first city that comes to mind would be Govan, right? Don't worry, we hadn't heard of it either, and actually no one has for probably 40+ years. This town is essentially abandoned (aside from a married couple, and a mysterious third resident..). But what has stuck around are the ghosts from multiple unsolved murders, and according to...

Maybe they're a little cheesy, but we've decided to hold ourselves accountable and fill you guys in on our new years resolutions this year. This podcast has given us so much in the last 3 years, and we want to make sure we're still giving you the content you deserve. So let's just relax with a little lighthearted look into the future, and here's hoping for an even better year in 2024. Thanks, spoo...

So, Portland, OR may not be "small town America", but sometimes a haunt is just too god to pass up, and with claims like most haunted place on earth, how could we say no? So down we go, to the Shanghai Tunnels beneath Chinatown in Portland, where they had a little bit of everything. Gambling, drinking, prostitution rings, and kidnapping for enslavement. This time we are living vicariously through...

Happy holidays, everyone! It's just a few days before Christmas, and nothing says Christmas like talking true crime apparently. We'll cover some lighthearted ones, some dark ones, but all of them revolve around this wonderful time of year. (just a heads up though, some of them do get surprisingly dark)   Donate monthly here:  https://www.patreon.com/orsotheysaypod Or a once off here:  https://www....

Well, it seems our (virtual) travels have brought us to the wonderful state of Nebraska this week. We really went with small town America on this one and have found one of the states most haunted locations in Valentine, Centennial Hall Museum. This building stood as a high school first, and that is where our haunted tale begins. And the source of this legend? a clarinet, of course. Who knew that b...