Jamie & Eric
NOT the Sermon
NOT the Sermon is a podcast where two pastors talk about everything but the sermon. Jamie and Eric discuss faith, culture, and theology...all while roasting each other. If you are sick of sermon podcasts and are looking for a funny and refreshing take on Christian life, check out this blend of comedy and theology. Just remember, its NOT the sermon!
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Jamie & Eric
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Jul 6, 2026
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Episodes
Summer Short Shorts #4: A Mid-Summer Shady" 14.07.2025 30:02
In this episode Jamie & Eric are reunited (and it feels so good)! The boys shoot the skybalon, give some summer updates, and then dive in to their mid-summer shady...theology: Confession.
Summer Short Shorts #3: "I Survived Jamie's Youth Group" 07.07.2025 43:06
In this episode Jamie brings on friend and former youth group member Doug to discuss the wild west of the mid 2000's youth group era. Enjoy!
Sermonot Fav: REPOST: Holy Debauchery 30.06.2025 47:35
Let’s rewind to our most listened-to episode of 2024: Holy Debauchery! Jamie and Eric were live on-site in Orlando, Florida, joined by a few staff pastors to talk all things conference culture, pastors tithing, and more. And don’t miss the original roast song written by a Sermonot.
Summer Short Shorts #2: Stuck on a train in Switzerland 23.06.2025 29:12
Fresh off the podcasting press, Eric is joined by a special guest, Cynthia Bryan as he debriefs from his sabbatical and talks about how he got stuck on a train in Switzerland.
Jamie's Fav: REPOST: Dead Boat with a Cold 16.06.2025 49:03
One of Jamie's favorite NTS episodes. Enjoy! 00:00:15 Shooting the Skybalon: Tongue Twisters 00:08:19 Eric's Edumakation: The Gospel Overseas 00:22:32 So Help Meme God: Funeral Music 00:34:33 Pester the Pastor: Conflict
Summer Short Shorts #1: That time Jamie almost paralyzed a middle schooler 09.06.2025 28:42
Rejoice, Sermonots - it's our first Summer Short Short! Join Jamie and his wife Tiffany as they talk about the time Jamie almost paralyzed one of his children's classmates. Tiff also takes a quiz to prove if she's really been listening to her husband's podcast. Hilarity ensues!
Eric's Fav: REPOST: Momma Bear Needs Her Wine 02.06.2025 44:53
Enjoy one of Eric's favorite episodes from Season 1: Momma Bear Needs Her Wine! 00:00:15 Shooting the Skybalon: Happy New Year 00:10:04 Pester the Pastor: Daniel Fasts 00:22:24 Shady Theology: Alcohol 00:32:23 Houston, We Have a Question: Pets in Heaven
Episode 73: "A Maniacal Party" 26.05.2025 47:42
The final episode of Season 2! Don't be dismayed, Not the Sermon will be releasing our "Summer Short Shorts" episodes throughout the summer, along with Jamie & Eric's favorite episodes from the past 2 seasons. In this episode, Jamie & Eric talk about the spiritual gift of time travel, release a new song, and review some of the highlights from Season 2. 00:00:15 Shooting the Skybalon: Seaso...
Episode 72: Get Your Algorithm Checked 19.05.2025 46:09
In this episode, the boys are unhinged. They talk about the unfortunate fate of Moses' and Zipporah's son, Harry Potter & satanic panic, and talk about how to hear the voice of God. 00:00:16 Shooting the Skybalon: Bucket Gardens 00:08:55 The Bible Says What?!: Zipporah and her son 00:19:49 So Help Meme God: Harry Potter 00:33:07 Pester the Pastor: God's Voice
Episode 71: "Father Time Put Your Hairline in Reverse" 12.05.2025 48:59
In this episode, Jamie & Eric are joined by Brandon for a redemption episode! They guys talk about bad haircuts, Christian cultural trends, and the popular phrase "God will never give you more than you can handle." 00:00:10 Shooting the Skybalon: AI Roasts 00:12:38 Shady Theology: More than you can handle 00:24:00 So Help Meme God: Haircut Preacher 00:33:06 Pester the Pastor: Christian T...
Episode 70: "How to Trim a Parakeet's Toenails" 05.05.2025 48:16
In this episode, Jamie and Eric talk covenant faithfulness, how to get men to sing in church, and whether generational curses are real or just bad family habits with spiritual branding. [00:00] Intro [00:00:16] Shooting the Skybalon – Tire Spikes and Parakeet Toenails [00:08:34] Your Greek is Showing – Hesed [00:20:45] So Help Meme God – Men Don’t Sing [00:31:01] Shady Theology – Generational Curs...
Episode 69: "Pizza Baller" 28.04.2025 44:54
In this episode Jamie & Eric talk burnout, discuss Jesus' 3 days in the tomb, and play a new game "Beak or Bogus." 00:00:15 Shooting the Skybalon: Pope Selection 00:08:19 Pester the Pastor: Burnout 00:23:33 Game: Beak or Bogus 00:31:19 Meme: 3 Days and 3 Nights
Episode 68: Barbaric Grace 21.04.2025 48:31
In this episode, Jamie & Eric talk about pastoral humility, play a new worship Mad Lib, and talk about the biblical definition of a pastor. 00:00:16 Shooting the Skybalon: Radio Jingles & Listener Letter 00:06:49 Shady Theology: Don't Touch God's Anointed 00:18:41 How Great is Our Pod: Worship Mad Lib 00:27:20 Your Greek is Showing: What is a pastor?
Episode 67: "Cupping a Bug" 14.04.2025 46:23
In this episode, Jamie & Eric talk about what to do when someone can't sing, Uber's lost and found, and JUDGE NOT LEST YE BE JUDGED! 00:00:12 Shooting the Skybalon: Cupping Bugs 00:07:47 Weird Worship: Bad Singers 00:20:39 Shady Theology: Judge Not 00:32:51 Odd News: Uber Lost and Found
Episode 66: "An Opera-tunity" 07.04.2025 45:26
In this episode, Eric & Jamie are joined by a friend of the pod, Alex...and are later joined by Phoenix...awkward. They guys talk about locking church doors during the offering, the limits of generosity, and whether God can be used as a mob enforcer. 00:00:16 Shooting the Skybalon: Caught by Phoenix 00:08:30 Shady Theology: Marvin Sapp 00:19:38 So Help Meme God: Gangster God 00:31:09 Hou...
Episode 65: "Ethan aka 'White Lump'" 31.03.2025 49:01
In this episode, Jamie & Eric are joined by Ethan (Jamie's son). They talk about growing up as a pastor's kid, listen to a new listener-submitted roast, and talk about the shallow dating pool in the Old Testament [00:00:13] Shooting: Ethan visits, Balaam's @$$ [00:11:16] Pester the PK [00:24:13] Life's a Preach Game [00:31:54] Shady Theology: Marrying Family in the OT
Episode 64: "Yiddish Doctors Hate This One Trick!" 24.03.2025 46:31
In this episode, Jamie & Eric talk about the new airport TikTok Challenge, just war theory, and what happens when you fall asleep during a sermon. (00:00:00) - Shooting the Skybalon: Airport Hacks (00:10:20) - Pester the Pastor: Just War Theory (00:24:13) - The Bible Says What?! Acts 20:7-12 / Mark 8:22-26 (00:33:16) - Houston, We Have a Question: Cavemen? (00:45:21) - Final Thoughts ...
Episode 63: An Interview with the "Charismatic Cheetah" 17.03.2025 48:31
In this episode, Jamie & Eric interview Michael Young, founder of the internet meme page "Charismatic Cheetah." The guys talk about calvinism, spiritual gifts, and the role of comedy in the church. Links to the Charismatic Cheetah's meme page and podcast are found below. Memes: https://www.facebook.com/charismaticcheetah Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCUb2Cl1-7ZJ5VkeMOe9hJ2Q Spotify...
Episode 62: "Hope Dealer" 10.03.2025 47:02
In this episode, Jamie & Eric talk about God's "middle knowledge," sign gifts, and one up Brandon Lake and Jellyroll with a new original song: "Hope Dealer." Shooting the Skybalon: Kombucha party, Jamie's son's roast Pester the Pastor: God's foreknowledge How Great is Our Pod: Jelly Roll's worship song, "Hope Dealer" Shady Theology: Sign gifts
Episode 61: "Golden Tickets Behind KFC" 03.03.2025 46:02
In this episode, Jamie & Eric talk about tip culture, prophecy, and viral fake news articles. Shooting the Skybalon: tip culture Sermonception: Mark Driscoll reviews a Catholic's take on Protestant worship Weird news: Golden Tickets to Heaven and other fake news Shady Theology: Prophecy
Episode 60: "The most Phoenixy Phoenix that ever Phoenixed" 24.02.2025 46:58
We have a Phoenix sighting! In the episode, the whole gang is back together. In this episode, Phoenix issues an apology to the listeners, Jamie & Eric talk about altar calls and the sinner's prayer, and we have another visit from John Malcolm Wetherby. Shooting the Skybalon: Phoenix apologizes, US-Canada hockey fights Houston We Have a Question: Kings Kaleidoscope drops the bomb To Die is Ga...
Episode 59: "I'm a Dangerous Loaf of Bread" 17.02.2025 48:13
In this episode, Jamie & Eric talk about going to church online, prophetic bread songs, and are joined at the end by John Malcolm Wetherby. Shooting The Skybalon: Brandon joins us and Scott Stapp roasts us Shady Theology: Is online church a church? Weird Worship: Prophetic bread songs Houston, We Have a Question: What do Catholics think about who goes to Heaven? In closing: An open letter from...
Episode 58: " Me No Know" 10.02.2025 45:24
In this episode, Jamie & Eric read a message from an Irish listener, share their thoughts on whether or not Jesus went to hell, and play a new mad lib! Shooting the Skybalon: Rosie from Ireland, Jamie got roasted by Mike Winger Shady Theology: Did Jesus go to Hell? Miraculous Mad Libs: A Senior Pastor fires an Associate Pastor Weird worship: Is demonstrative worship in the New Testament?
Episode 57: "My Fake Name is Cleve" 03.02.2025 44:37
In this episode, Jamie & Eric talk about the most important thing you could do to help out your pastor, baptizing trolls, and what real repentance looks like. Shooting the Skybalon: Lunch with dudes and the Chik-fil-A playground. The Bible Says Whaaat?!: The Parable of the Shrewd Manager So Help Meme God: Baptizing trolls Your Greek is Showing: Metanoia = repentance
Episode 56: "Holy Moses On a Rocket Powered Pogo Stick" 27.01.2025 48:17
In the episode, Jamie & Eric talk about surviving the "Snowpocalypse, they sing a new NTS original song, and talk about why Cain couldn't use Tinder. Shooting the Skybalon: Southern Snowpocalypse So Help Meme God: Colin Quinn on technology and the Bible How Great is Our Pod: A parody of Living Hope by Phil Wickham Houston, We Have a Question: Cain's wife/the homeless vs the fire code
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