Blakely Graham + Heather Cooper
Not All Business
Because at work, it's not all business. We're Heather Cooper & Blakely Graham, two rival tech CEOs turned friends, hosting real conversations about the messy reality of leadership. Think of us as Sex Ed for Leadership—discussing the topics and answering all the questions professionals are too afraid to ask, with occasional reality checks from our brilliant producer, Clay. Join us for serious insights. Slightly less serious hosts. New episodes every week!
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Blakely Graham + Heather Cooper
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Oct 29, 2026
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Episodes
The CEO Who Went From IPO to Pie 07.05.2026 1:21:03
What does it actually take to say yes when you're not qualified, not expected, and not invited? This week on Not All Business, we sat down with Ginger Graham — former President and CEO of Amylin Pharmaceuticals, former interim CEO at Walgreens Boots Alliance, Harvard Business School faculty, and founder of Ginger and Baker in Fort Collins, Colorado. Ginger has spent a career being the first an...
Win The Room vs Lose The Room (Do This and You'll Win Every Time) 30.04.2026 1:09:12
Most leaders think they're communicating. Their teams think otherwise. The gap isn't about words. It's about environment. This week on Not All Business, we sat down with Brittany Hart, Founder & CEO of Communiscape, a communication consulting and coaching firm built on the belief that most leadership failures aren't strategy failures - they're communication failures. After...
Try This One Thing To Become A Better Listener 23.04.2026 1:09:29
You think listening is about trying harder. It's not. It's about building the right habit. And Allison O'Brien is here to show you how. This week on Not All Business, we sat down with Allison O'Brien, a leading expert on LQ™ Listening Intelligence. Allison works with organizations of all sizes — from nonprofits and startups to Fortune 500 companies and government agencies — helping...
The Woman Who Built Women's Sports From NOTHING 16.04.2026 1:09:39
At 23, Amy Snider stood up in a room full of men and corrected the record on women's soccer. Nobody asked her to. She did it anyway. This week on Not All Business, we sit down with Amy Snider, Cornell soccer alum, co-founder of one of Colorado's longest-running women's semi-pro franchises, and the woman who was in the stands recently when 63,004 people showed up for the Denver Summit F...
Sticky Situations: Bad References, Broken Accountability, and Kale 09.04.2026 36:56
What do you do when your manager asks you to be their reference and the nicest thing you can honestly say is... fine? This week on Not All Business, it's Casual Friday with Heather, Blakely, and Clay. No guest, no filter, and definitely no shortage of opinions. Two listener sticky situations: one is a workplace reference dilemma with no clean exit, and the other is from an educator asking a qu...
The Truth About GLP-1s, From Someone Who Was There From the Start 02.04.2026 1:15:56
Everyone's talking about GLP-1s. But do they know how they actually work? This week on Not All Business, we sit down with Dr. Linda Shapiro Manning, a physician with both an MD and a PhD who has been working in obesity medicine since before GLP-1s were a household name. She was in the room when the first GLP-1 drugs were being developed and has watched them go from a clinical tool to a cultura...
AI Is Changing Hiring Faster Than You Think 26.03.2026 1:01:44
AI is reshaping hiring faster than most people realize, and if you're job searching right now, you need to know the rules of the new game. This week on Not All Business, we sit down with Jessica Titko, CEO of StaffPad, a recruiting firm on the front lines of how AI is transforming the hiring process. Jessica has seen it all: candidates using AI earpieces to get through interviews, bots submitt...
Casual Friday: Layoffs, Dream Boards, and a CEO Who Said What?! 19.03.2026 55:17
Three new sticky situations. Zero corporate spin. This week on Not All Business, it's Casual Friday — which means Clay's running the show and Heather and Blakely are back in the hot seat. Sticky Situations: A senior manager at a major tech company just turned down 18 months of severance. Smart or not ready to let go? A founder is moonlighting in his first corporate cubicle while keeping a...
Stop Pitch Slapping and Start Connecting 12.03.2026 1:06:05
What if the most powerful revenue strategy isn't your CRM, your cold outreach, or your pipeline velocity — it's the relationships you already have, but keep treating like transactions? This week we sit down with Sam Yarborough, former Chief Growth Officer, GTM and partnerships leader in the Salesforce ecosystem, co-founder of Arcadia, and co-host of Friends with Benefits. Also: Blakely...
Your Nervous System Is Talking. Are You Listening? 05.03.2026 1:03:46
Are you waking up at 3am and can't explain why? You're not alone — and it's not random. This week on Not All Business, we welcome Kristie Steinbock, traditional Chinese medicine practitioner and acupuncturist with 35 years in practice. Since early 2026, Kristie has seen an unprecedented surge of clients arriving with the same complaint: anxiety and insomnia. Her take? It's collective fear — and ou...
Dating Apps, Dress Codes, & Firing People (Casual Friday Sticky Situations) 26.02.2026 40:49
What does "business casual" actually mean? Apparently, nobody knows — and that's only the beginning. On this Casual Friday episode of Not All Business, Blakely and Heather tackle three of the messiest workplace questions out there: Is using dating apps to land job interviews genius or deeply creepy? What does "business casual" actually mean when you're a curvy woman in...
Stories Over Prompts | Why Leadership Storytelling Beats AI Every Time 19.02.2026 1:01:51
In the age of AI, authentic lived experience is your competitive advantage. This week on Not All Business, we welcome Julie Lancaster, CEO of Lancaster Leadership and author of Beyond Words: How Our Stories & Strategies Inspire Leadership Actions . Julie breaks down why all motivation is actually self-motivation (and what leaders can do about it), how to tell stories that influence and connect...
Stop Guessing! Social Media Strategies That Work 12.02.2026 59:16
Most businesses are throwing content into the wind and hoping something sticks. But what if your social media strategy is moving you sideways instead of forward? This week on Not All Business, we welcome Eleisha Everett, social media strategist and host of Your Audience is Waiting . Eleisha breaks down why consistency beats virality, how to know if you're solving an execution problem or a stra...
Networking Without the Ick: How to Build Real Connections 05.02.2026 1:06:49
Ever wonder why networking feels so... performative? That's because most people are doing it all wrong. This week on Not All Business, we welcome Baily Hancock, connection strategist and founder of Overlap Collective. Baily explains why that "open to work" badge on LinkedIn might be repelling opportunities, why you should stop separating your personal and work lives, and how to walk...
Casual Friday: Embarrassing Moments, Lies, and Impossible Feedback 29.01.2026 37:25
It's Casual Friday—which means we're answering the sticky situations and workplace dilemmas you're too afraid to ask about anywhere else. Today we're tackling: the fart noise that wasn't actually a fart (but you're still thinking about it once a month), getting contradictory feedback and constantly talked over as the only woman on your leadership team, and what to do when y...
Toxic Boss? We Got You. 22.01.2026 1:03:02
We hit the top 1% of podcasts! 🎉 To celebrate our 21st episode, we brought back our celebrity guest star Lynda Harvey to tackle your messiest workplace dilemmas. Lynda has hundreds of thousands of followers across social media and hosts the podcast "In the Business of Humans." She's dedicated to helping people navigate their work landscape and make better choices so they're actu...
Why Being Human at Work Isn't Optional Anymore 15.01.2026 1:04:22
Why do toxic leaders keep getting promoted when everyone knows they're toxic? And why do we treat being human at work like it's optional? It’s the Heathers episode! Blakely and Heather Cooper sit down with Heather Conklin, CEO of Torch and former SVP and General Manager at Salesforce, to talk about why we only bring a fraction of ourselves to work—the polished, professional tip of the iceb...
Stop Trying to Change Your Behavior (Do This Instead) 08.01.2026 1:02:45
Ever watch yourself repeat the same pattern and think, "Why can't I just stop?" Here's why: You're focused on the wrong thing. In this episode, Lindsey Ferris—therapist and former Microsoft exec—breaks down the 3 phases of awareness that actually change behavior, why the pause between trigger and reaction is everything, and how she escaped the golden handcuffs after 20 years...
Christmas Special: What We're Leaving Behind & Bringing Into 2025 23.12.2025 55:44
It's our Christmas episode! Instead of bringing you a guest, we're bringing you something different—a moment to pause, reflect, and share what we're leaving behind and bringing into the new year. This week, Blakely, Heather, and Clay gather in Boulder, Colorado for a festive check-in. We follow up on Clay's infamous phone lockbox experiment from Thanksgiving (spoiler: it actually w...
Married to the CEO: Husbands Tell All 18.12.2025 56:33
What's it really like being married to a CEO? What workplace dilemmas make it home? We finally let the husbands on the show. Scott Graham and Nic Widhalm join us in person at our Boulder studio for the real story of what it's like when your partner is running a company. Scott managed a career and life at home while Blakely ran TaskRay. Nic worked with Heather at Cloud Coach, then decided t...
Building Culture: The Uncomfortable, Dirty Work That Actually Makes It Stick 11.12.2025 1:07:17
Building culture—but not the fluffy, feel-good version. We're getting into the practical, uncomfortable workplace dilemmas, and dirty real talk about work that actually makes culture stick. It's our first in-person episode at Not All Business! Heather & Blakely welcome Nicole Christensen, founder of CrossFit Roots in Boulder, Colorado, to our brand new studio. Nicole has built one of t...
The 4 Pillars of Trust Every Leader Needs 04.12.2025 59:38
It's a trust masterclass at Not All Business! Executive coach Carolyn Keyes—the same coach who changed Jamie Cole's life in our very first episode AND Blakely's life years ago—joins us to unpack trust as the invisible currency that fuels collaboration, creativity, and human connection. The same currency that makes navigating workplace dilemmas much easier and effective. Carolyn breaks...
How to Survive Your Thanksgiving - Workplace Dilemmas turned Family Dilemmas 25.11.2025 49:14
Why is Thanksgiving the ultimate leadership stress test? In this episode, Heather and Blakely break down why the holiday season exposes every leadership skill you think you’ve mastered — from emotional regulation and boundary setting to managing expectations and staying grounded in chaos. They share a practical Thanksgiving Survival Guide that works at home dilemmas and at work dilemmas. The conve...
How to Survive a Bad Manager (Or Stop Being One) - Workplace Dilemmas 20.11.2025 46:45
Why do bad managers exist? Lynda Harvey—the Manager Guru who's built a community of over 587k followers across Instagram and TikTok—breaks down why most people get promoted into management with zero training, and what to do about the ensuing workplace dilemmas. Bad managers aren't born—they're created by companies that skip the training step entirely. Lynda brings 25+ years of leadersh...
The Truth About Invisible Disabilities at Work & other Workplace Dilemmas 13.11.2025 1:04:18
Jody Donovan defended her PhD at the height of her intellectual capacity. Then a sledding accident on a closed ski slope in Breckenridge changed everything. Within 48 hours, she couldn't find her way to church. She spent the next year relearning how to get dressed, grocery shop, and find words. But the hardest part wasn't the rehabilitation—it was the shame. In this raw and essential episo...
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