Nobody Asked Us with Des & Kara

You can't have a Nobody Asked Us episode without a pet update. In the intro, Des gives in an update on her puppy Rivers, and Kara details the history that led to a Bearded Dragon joining the Goucher household. Hi Margot ! Then, Des and Kara wade into the deep end to discuss recent track and field controversies involving New Gen Track & Field , potential hot weather at the US Marathon Trials in Orl...

No... we aren't talking about petty criticism about pets, but rather pets as the perfect antidote for petty criticism while in the public eye. Des and Kara start by commiserating over what it's like to face public criticism and how it's evolved both pre and post social media. They recap their first memories of being affected by such criticism and talk about their various coping strategies through...

This episode begins with Des and Kara commiserating over their hatred for midwestern, summer horse flies, and in true Des fashion, she finds a way to gain inspiration from them. Would you expect anything less from one of the most gritty and tenacious athletes of our time?!?  Then, your hosts meander through a fun episode discussing the World Championships marathon and how it's different from the O...

Swifties and track nerds rise up! Fans of the Notorious B.I.G too. Oh, and lovers of puppies and those with July birthdays... this episode is for all of you!  Kara recaps her experience at the Taylor Swift concert in Minneapolis. Des talks about her challenges reading the big "E" without glasses and trying to decide on the perfect puppy name. Then, they give you an event by event breakdown of the...

In this episode, Des and Kara pay tribute to their support teams. As an athlete, you can't do it alone. It takes a village... you need agents, sponsors, coaches, family, medical providers, pacers, teammates, and, for Des and Kara, their husbands too.  In this one, we learn the helpful and a little bit of the not so helpful from each member of the teams that helped make them champions. Plus, we lea...

Listeners keep saying that the title is wrong, that everyone asked Des and Kara to start a podcast. That may or may not be true, but one thing that is definitely true: USATF and World Athletics didn't ask for this episode. They won't be listening even if they should. In it, Des and Kara talk about the state of the sport and how to draw in more fans.  From small crowds and missing stars at the rece...

You might think that two marathoners and a decathlete have nothing in common, and well, you'd be wrong. There's broadcasting, photo shoots, national teams, doggos, track 1500s, and eventually marathons too(?). On this episode, 2 x World Champion and Olympic silver medalist Trey Hardee joins his future marathon coaches for a wide-ranging conversation that covers the ups/downs of his career, the men...

This episode has a little something for everyone. Des and Kara start by swapping medical war stories including the backstory behind Des's recent hand injury. Spoiler alert: She nearly lost her thumb in a boating accident but is going to be ok! Then, they jump into recaps of Boston and London where you get their takes on Emma Bates, Hellen Obiri, Sifan Hassan, Conner Mantz, Scott Fauble, Eliud Kipc...

In this episode, you hear the audio from Des and Kara's live episode recorded in Boston at the Brooks Hyperion House. In this conversation, Des and Kara announce the new presenting sponsor for the podcast - TCS Global - and then dig into stories from their book tours and from their long histories with the Boston Marathon. Fun anecdotes include Des telling us about the moment she knew she had arriv...

In this episode, Des and Kara take you behind the scenes at the Olympics. Both Des and Kara have raced there twice. They share what it was like achieving their lifelong dreams and then living it out under all of the pressure of the Games. Spoiler alert: it's not all rainbows and unicorns. You will hear about the "Big O" camp, pictures with the President, the dining hall at the Olympic village, the...

In this episode, Kara interviews Des on her new book Choosing to Run: A Memoir .  The book tells the story of Des's 2018 Boston Marathon victory, woven together beautifully with the story of her life. In it, she reveals harrowing details about the 9 months prior to the race and how she didn't even know if she would make the start line. You think you know the rest of the story, but you don't. Buy t...

In this episode, Des interviews Kara on her new book The Longest Race: Inside the Secret World of Abuse, Doping, and Deception on Nike's Elite Running Team.  You will have to listen and read to learn more, but Des and Kara talk about several elements of Kara's story including never-before-revealed details about her time with the Nike Oregon Project. 

In this episode, Des and Kara give their reactions on the indoor track season including the NB Indoor Grand Prix, Millrose Games, and the US Championships in Albuquerque. They talk about the implications of recent mind-blowing times on the future of the sport, thanks in large part to super-shoe technology coming to the track. Is it good for the sport and will there be a return to an emphasis on pu...

What do Celestial Seasonings, fried eggs, and a bird with a backpack all have in common? Find out in this episode where you get to learn about how two introverts - Des and Kara - navigate the world of running celebrity, social media, broadcasting and now podcasting. And if you're an extrovert, they give some tips on how to keep your introverted friends happy and energized. Plus, learn more about t...

In this episode, Des and Kara welcome their first guest - Lauren Fleshman. Lauren is a 4x individual NCAA champion and 2x US national champion. She placed 7th at the World Championships in the 5000m and is now a NY Times best-selling author. Her book - Good for a Girl: A Woman Running in a Man's World - is defining and redefining how we think about elevating women in sport. Des, Kara, and Lauren f...

In this episode, Des and Kara take you behind the scenes in the broadcast booth including how they both got into it and the good, the bad, and the really-freaking-hard about making it behind the mic.

Des and Kara share their hot (or perhaps medium?) takes on current events in the world of marathoning. Hear their opinions on the location of the Olympic Marathon Trials, the US Marathon Champs at CIM, Eliud Kipchoge doing Boston and so much more. Plus, find out if Des plans to run the 2024 Trials to try to make it to Paris. Stick around for the "tips" on goal setting and resolutions at the end.

Once competitors and fellow Olympic teammates, now friends and podcast partners, Kara and Des get to know each other in this first episode. We promise you will learn something new about them both!