No Small Thing

Curious what the heck do we mean by that? This week on NST we sat down and heard the journey of Reverend Aaron Williams. Aaron shares his journey from growing up Baptist in Augusta, Georgia dreaming of being a pastor to moving to Texas and then eventually all the way to progressive, white Seattle where he now serves at a predominantly white Evangelical Presbyterian Church. It's quite the journey A...

Dr. Christena Cleveland has been an writer and speaker that has inspired us for a while now and we were so excited to get a chance to interview her! She is rightly helping us understand that God as a "white male" needs to die and a more complete and inclusive God needs to be established in our collective consciousness. We believe the work she is doing is so important and that you will all be enric...

This is our 7th installment of our enneagram series and it is all about ENNEAGRAM SEVENS. Enneagram sevens really do bring so much joy and excitement to life and this is an opportunity to explore what make this type tick. This week we interview Mark Russo and JJ Kissinger (two enneagram sevens!) and have a fun an silly yet rich and introspective time talking about what it means to be a 7. We hope...

Steven Universe is a rich, complex, multi-layered, sweet, funny, whimsical, profound cartoon that teaches people about, among other thing, tolerance, empathy, emotional-intelligence, and self-love. We think everyone should be watching and enjoying this show! This week Macie and Scott deep-dive the most recent 45 minutes special of Steven Universe called "Change your Mind". They discuss the Diamond...

Addiction is serious. This week DJ Evie (Evie Cooke) from Seattle's local independent radio station, KEXP, opens up about her struggle with addiction and what happened to finally help her get sober. She also shares her love and passion for music and talks about the role it has played in her life. She also shares some new music we should all be listening to! Music shared on the episode this week: E...

Beach House is considered one of the quintessential "dream pop" bands of all time. Victoria Legrand and Alex Scally seem to have perfected a sound that is ominous yet uplifting, spooky yet sweet, enchanting..and yet strange at the same time. They also happen to be one of Scott and Macie's favorite bands! So of course this merits a conversation about what makes Beach House so special! We hope you e...

What is a party? Why do we have them and why is everyone getting together all the time!? In this episode Scott and Macie talk about their complicated relationship with parties; what they like and don't like about them and their ideas about what could make parties better. They also read listener's thoughts about parties from instagram and Reuven reads a poem. Here are some TIME STAMPS- if you would...

We are BACK with an enneagram episode! This week we talk about the amazing loyal sixes. We interview our friend Makalee, discuss listener comments, and ultimately try to arrive at a deeper appreciation for this amazing and helpful ennea type. We hope this is cathartic for sixes and helpful for people that have sixes in their lives!

In part 2 of our Age and Wisdom series we discuss 12 year old Jesus teaching in the temple as well as the Reggio learning philosophy. This is an episode that explores the way that we can learn from kids and what it means to maintain a posture of curiosity when interacting with young people.

Where do you get your fashion sense from!? What even IS fashion? Or how about you personal sense of style? This week Macie and Scott engage in an intense conversation about the origin of their personal styles. They philosophize about hoodies, what to wear at parties, how personal clothing is, ultimately, No Small Thing.

In this week's episode we do a deep dive on Dr. James Cone who is considered to be the father of "black liberation theology". Scott spent all year reading his books and learned so much! Dr. Cone passed away this year so it seems like a perfect time to reflect on his life and legacy. We invited a special guest, Tali Hariston, to come by and talk to us about the impact James Cone has has had on the...

Joanna Newsom is a musician, harp player, poet, genius, phenom, revolutionary and so much more! Her music is utterly unique and sheer depth of her content merits multiple rounds of deep diving. This week Macie and Scott try to have a conversation about this musical queen and timeless legend. Whether you're already a fan or just getting into Joanna Newsom we think you'll enjoy this conversation!

Enneagram 3 is known as the ACHIEVER. This is a complex number right in the center of the heart triad. They are known for being smooth, charming, and goal oriented and they can also be a little "too smooth" sometimes. 3's are trying to find love through their efforts and success instead of just being loved for who they are. At their best they can teach us to strive to be better and reach for highe...

In his book "Why do I do That?" Joseph Burgo, Phd, warns that "psychological defenses may exclude or misdirect parts of our emotional life that we need for effective relationships- not just romantic ones but those with our family members and close friends or with our colleagues at work." On this episode of No Small Thing Macie and Scott discuss defense mechanisms- what are they? how can we identif...

The core question we ask ourselves is whether or not we belong or have value. At a young age this often fairly easy to believe, but it gets "complicated" as we get older. In this episode we hear from Dr. Ted Klontz and he gives us some helpful insights and tools all surrounding this idea of falling in love with ourselves!

Sleep seems to be one of the most important if not THE most important elements for our health and our general ability to thrive. Its also really fun to stay up late! In this episode Scott and Macie talk about their complicated relationship with sleep, listen to Reuven read some poems, and discuss some new research that reveals that there might be more complexities regarding individual sleep patter...

Calling it the 'Art of Podcasting' but it is actually more of a check-in episode/celebration episode. Scott and Macie reflect on the journey they have been on creating the pod and share some of their hopes, dreams, and goals for what is to come with No Small Thing.

This is our FOURTH Enneagram episode. This episode is all about the TWO (The Helper). If you are at all interested in getting to know yourself better as a two or trying to understand the twos in your life this episode is for you. We interview our friend, Katie Thomas, about what its like to be a two (sneak peak- it seems like twos have very particular thoughts that keep them up at night!). We love...

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Interested in photography/ art or starting your own business? This week Scott and Macie interview John Keatley who is a photographer and small business owner. This interview is long, but is also packed with interesting stuff about how John views his vocation as a photographer. There is also a lot of fun information and stories about Scott and John's early days in college!

The Christian Doctrine of The Trinity is an essential element of the Christian faith. In this episode Macie and Scott attempt to have a conversation about this fascinating doctrine. It highlights how the core of the Christian faith is relational, equal, playful, and invitational!

Do you know if you're an introvert or an extrovert? Or maybe you're an ambivert! In this week's episode Scott and Macie discuss the nuances of these different temperaments and how it impacts them specifically. You will find yourself having cathartic moments as you hear you temperament discussed and, hopefully, you'll develop a bit more empathy for people who don't share you temperament.

In this episode we attempt to explore the complexities of the enneagram 1 type. Enneagram 1's have an uncanny ability to improve the contexts, systems, and circumstances that they find themselves in. We interview our producer, Matthew Lauder, to try and get a clearer understanding of what makes this awesome ennea type tick!

Are you a fan of Kendrick Lamar? Do you think he is potentially the greatest of all time? Both Scott and Macie are big fans of Kendrick and believe the music and art he is producing is no small thing! We invite you to the conversation this week as Scott and Macie deep dive Kendrick! Hear about Kendrick’s songs, albums, and performances as well as a discussion of why we think Kendrick is so importa...

We all struggle with anxiety. Anxiety occurs on a spectrum ranging from manageable to desperate. For the 13th episode of No Small Thing Scott and Macie interview Deb Thomas (a licensed therapist) about anxiety. They have an in depth conversation about what anxiety IS, what causes it, and how to cope. We hope this is a helpful episode!