Next Level Agents: The Kevin & Fred Show - Interviews with the best and brightest minds in the real estate industry

In today’s episode, I’m joined by our longtime friend and collaborator, Brian Gubernick. We’ve known Brian since the early days of our real estate careers, and over the years, he’s worn many hats in the industry. He’s fired up by the concept of doing something, anything every single day to get better and it’s reflected in the kind of businesses he’s built and the contributions he’s made, including...

In today’s episode, I’m sharing something from 2020 that I recently revisited and found very relevant to what’s going on in the market today. Keith Cunningham’s book, The Road Less Stupid is one of the best business books of all time, and when the pandemic hit, he wrote a very insightful piece about Business Oxygen. It applies to what we’re seeing today, so I’m going to share those insights with y...

In today’s episode, I’m going to share some thoughts on a recent call I was on with PLACE Inc’s Chris Suarez about influence, how it works and why it’s key to recruiting and real estate sales.    Whether we’re trying to recruit an agent to our brokerage or get a seller to work with us, influence is the name of the game. Converting a person and helping them move forward into something that’s right...

In this episode of the podcast, I’m joined by the author of DIE WITH ZERO, Bill Perkins. It’s a book that has really grabbed me, made an impact and helped me noticeably change things. There are plenty of books on money and building wealth, and by and large, they are solving for net worth, not net fulfillment.  Bill Perkins "The Last Cowboy" according to the Wall Street Journal, is one of the world...

In today’s episode, I’m joined by our good friend and fellow Arizona real estate, Chris Bowers. One of the most unique parts of Chris’ story is that he got into real estate at 22, after being exposed to different types of business models, including running his own skate shop as a teenager! Chris is going to open up about his journey, the shifts he has made along the way, how he maintains a high vo...

  In this episode, I’m joined by Brindley Tucker, the woman who has closed 5000 transactions without selling a single house. When it comes to the admin side of real estate, Brindley is a pro. From scaling and structuring to leadership and team building, she’s spent a lot of time in and around successful businesses, so she understands what keeps real estate professionals from scaling their business...

In today’s episode, I’m joined by a repeat return guest, Dave Z. One of the most admirable things about him is his drive to constantly refine his business model to match who he is and what he wants. This is very evident in how he designed leverage in his business, refusing to be constrained by the way things have always been done in this industry. In his first appearance on the show, he shared how...

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In today’s episode, we’re back with Dustin Runyon for another special Fired Up Friday. As always, any sit down with Dustin is going to be packed with insights and ways to think differently, and today we’re going to be sharing our highlights from our recent mastermind. Through our masterminds, we get to bring together great minds because it introduces us to new viewpoints and perspectives, and that...

In today’s episode, we’re continuing our special partnership discussion with guest/co-host, Fred Weaver on Group 46:10 and how the heck we’ve been working together for 14 years. In the last episode, we talked about how it all got started, and today we’re going to dig into the details and the economics of the business, and how we guarded against the things that cause rifts to develop right from the...

In today’s episode, we’re doing something different as I sit down with co-host/guest, and the other half of Kevin & Fred to talk about our business partnership. A question we get asked very frequently is how the hell the two of us have been in business together for 14+ years. Long-standing partnerships where there are no family ties are rare, and so today, in the first of a series, we’re taking yo...

In today’s episode, I’m rejoined by our good friend, business partner and owner of The Franklin Team, Andrew Franklin. Andrew runs a successful team that closed over 1700 transactions last year, and in addition to that, he has now built multiple ancillary businesses, including one that has caught up to the revenue of his sales team in 5 years. He’s going to share exactly how he did this.    Andrew...

In today’s episode (not brought to you by Neck Hammock btw) - we’re throwing you a curveball with the big announcement…that we’re renaming the podcast once again. We’re changing the name back to Next Level Agents and yes, while we’re clearly bad at naming things, we’re going to share the thinking behind the change and the greater lesson you can learn from it.    So many of us are more focused on t...

In today’s episode, we’re talking about our decision to join Place, the thought process behind this move, and the value proposition Place delivers to real estate teams. When you hear about Place and many top real estate teams joining it, you probably wonder why a team in a brokerage like eXp would want to bolt on this set of services to their organization. Place encompasses a lot and brings a ton...

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In today’s episode, the very first of 2023 - we’re doing both a year in review of 2022, and a look forward to this year. We’re going to talk about all sorts of highlights - from our favorite podcast episodes from last year, to our travel plans and all the things we’re excited about when it comes to real estate this year. No doubt, a lot has shifted in the market, but the way we see it, that’s not...

Time is finite but so many of us are just not purposeful with it. People plan how they go to a movie better than they plan their life, the relationships they have. It’s amazing how calculated we are about our movies and vacations but we don’t do the same thing in our personal worlds.     Hard work is a key to success but what’s the point if there’s no true balance? So many of us say we work hard f...

In today’s episode, one of my early guests and good friend, Todd Bookspan returns for a much-needed catch-up. Todd and I typically meet to discuss topics and ideas that get us to think differently about everything from business to health, and today we’re going to do the same thing on the podcast. Being around people who force us to ask ourselves the hard questions is one of the most underrated way...

In today’s episode, I’m excited to have my buddy and host of GSD Mode, Josh Smith back on the podcast to talk about what he’s been up to, and how he’s preparing for what’s coming in the real estate market. Josh is a brilliant marketer and entrepreneur, and he’s a huge giver to the real estate industry. After taking 8 months off and thinking of leaving real estate (he was thinking of buying a farm)...

In today’s episode, I’m joined by agents and good friends Jessica Lentz and Kristen Gadd to have a conversation many people in real estate are afraid of but really need to have. What are the emotional effects of the market shift? We went from a crazy, busy market to what feels like a lull in a space of weeks, and naturally a lot of agents are struggling to get their head in the game. These feeling...

In this episode, we’re joined by Chris Stuart, the President of PLACE, an all-in-one real estate technology platform, that helps successful teams achieve and exceed their growth goals. Chris gives an honest and insightful take on where the real estate industry is right now, and the key issues keeping real estate agents, teams and brokerages on their toes. He talks about why it’s so easy for disrup...

In today’s episode, Dustin Brohm returns for a special catch-up episode. When it comes to marketing, Dustin really knows his stuff, and in this conversation he provides in-depth tactics and insights about content creation, and gives us an update about his own podcast. So much has changed about social media in the last couple of years, and if we’re planning to use it for business growth, we have to...

In today’s episode, recent guest Jay White returns for another show because after the first conversation, we HAD to do a follow-up. At the tail-end of our last conversation, Jay talked about his “real estate Mamba mentality” and the fact that his team does script practices multiple times a day. I knew I had to have him back on the show to dig deeper on this. We also recently went to Ben Kinney’s B...

In today’s episode, I get to sit down with one of my good friends and host of Heart Melter, Templeton Walker. Templeton and I have a really in-depth conversation about our journeys in real estate, getting clear on what you really want, and we even share a couple of cringey but hilarious stories you’ve probably never heard from either of us before. Our conversation isn’t just about real estate, we...

In today’s episode, I’m joined by agent, author, coach and friend Crystal Hughes. Crystal has such amazing energy, a huge willingness to share, a love for giving back to the real estate industry, and a really amazing and inspiring story. Crystal’s approach of care and humor is one of the superpowers that makes her such a great coach and agent, and there’s so much we can learn from her own journey....