Mark Pack
Never Mind The Bar Charts
Mark Pack and guests talk about the Liberal Democrats, British politics and a few stray digressions. Only a few.
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Jun 13, 2026
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The virtues of Marmite: Tim Farron's advice on being a Liberal Democrat party leader 28.06.2020 47:00
Welcome to a special re-run of a previous, but once again very relevant, edition of Never Mind The Bar Charts. It is from June 2019, which feels a long time ago now but the calendar says that was only 12 months ago. It was the time of the party’s last leadership election, and I did an interview with Tim Farron about his experience as leader of the Liberal Democrats. We focused on his advice for th...
Making the Liberal Democrats win more elections - with Cllr Lisa Smart 19.06.2020 39:46
Apologies if you got a truncated version of this episode first time around. The podcast host has been playing up a bit but you should now be able to hear the interview all the way through to the end. How must the Liberal Democrats change in order to win more often? Listen to me discuss this with Lisa Smart, chair of the party's Federal Communications and Elections Committee (FCEC). Feedback very w...
Good News, Bad News 07.06.2020 1:02:15
Welcome to another special edition of Never Mind The Bar Charts, this time my appearance on Democratically: 2020 with Karin Robinson . We talk about my book, Bad News, the US Presidential race and how election coverage is so often wrong. Feedback very welcome, and do share this podcast with others who you think may enjoy it. Show notes Democratically: 2020 on Apple Podcasts . (It's also on all the...
The five things an opposition party must do: interview with Tim Bale 29.05.2020 54:13
What makes for a successful opposition party? How much of that success is down to the leader? How much does policymaking matter in opposition? Wnat question should be asked the Lib Dem leadership election hustings? These are just some of the topics I chewed over with opposition expert Professor Tim Bale in this episode of Never Mind The Bar Charts. Feedback very welcome, and do share this podcast...
Party leadership, online conferences and the election review 27.05.2020 55:44
I teamed up with the Lib Dem Pod crew for another special joint episode, with John and Richard grilling me about what's going on in the party. Feedback very welcome, and do share this podcast with others who you think may enjoy it. Show notes The Liberal Democrat election review . Follow Lib Dem Pod on Twitter . Get Lib Dem Pod on YouTube . Enjoy the show? Spread the word Follow the show on Twitte...
Why good pollsters are filled with doubt: interview with YouGov's Chris Curtis 20.05.2020 36:35
I often talk about opinion poll data with guests on Never Mind The Bar Charts, so this time to talk about what we can read into the polls – and what we shouldn’t – I was joined by a pollster, YouGov’s Chris Curtis. We started off with discussing what a pollster actually does all day... Feedback very welcome, and do share this podcast with others who you think may enjoy it. Show notes One of those...
What must the Liberal Democrats learn from Donald Trump? 13.05.2020 40:58
Donald Trump may not be the most obvious of role models for the Liberal Democrats. But there's a lot about effective communication the party can learn from him. After all, he won a national election, defying political establishments and seeing off unfriendly media along the way. So in this episode of Never Mind The Bar Charts, I talk about him with Rob Blackie. I used to work with Rob at Lib Dem H...
The one in which I get compared to Terry Pratchett 09.05.2020 31:25
Rather than a normal episode of Never Mind The Bar Charts, this time I’m running an episode of the excellent Not Enough Champagne podcast, including an improbable comparison between me and Terry Pratchett . You might recall me mentioning Not Enough Champagne as one of my favourite podcasts. I like it so much despite – or rather because – it’s done by two Labour Party activists, Cory and Steve, and...
Protecting our privacy is key to fighting coronavirus: interview with Jim Killock 06.05.2020 35:59
It's crucial that apps designed to help us battle coronavirus also protect our privacy as otherwise their take-up and so public health will suffer. That's the key point made by the Open Rights Group's Jim Killock in the latest episode of Never Mind The Bar Charts as we discussed the potential risks to our civil liberties from the different attempts to track who people have been in contact with. Su...
What do the experts say about coronavirus? With Dr Ben Johnson 23.04.2020 44:52
In the latest episode of Never Mind The Bar Charts, I talked with Ben Johnson, a former Liberal Democrat councillor in Southwark with a PhD on the influenza virus from Public Health England and the University of Reading, and now working for Nature , one of the world’s most famous and respected scientific journals. Feedback very welcome, and do share this podcast with others who you think may enjoy...
The Project: how the Conservatives were beaten last time 16.04.2020 46:29
In the latest episode of Never Mind The Bar Charts, I talk with Duncan Brack, the closest thing the party has to an official historian, about the lessons for the Liberal Democrats from the last time that a Conservative government was defeated. A key part of that was cross-party cooperation so we dive into what then party leader Paddy Ashdown's plans were, what worked, what didn't work and what les...
Our bias toward pessimism - Sunder Katwala on reactions to coronavirus 08.04.2020 29:06
In the latest episode of Never Mind The Bar Charts, I talk with Sunder Katwala from the British Future think tank. Along with discussing civil rights in the age of coronavirus and the impact on BAME communities, he raised the important issue of the human bias towards pessimism and its impact on our reactions to the coronavirus crisis. Feedback very welcome, and do share this podcast with others wh...
What does coronavirus mean for public policy? Interview with Polly Mackenzie 02.04.2020 26:42
In the latest episode of Never Mind The Bar Charts, I talked with the chief executive of Demos, Polly Mackenzie, about the impact of coronavirus on public policy. We got a bonus bit of background music courtesy of one of her children and a piano. As with the other shows since coronavirus, this one was recorded over video call so apologies for the occasional blip in sound quality. Feedback very wel...
Special joint episode with Lib Dem Podcast: Leadership election postponed / should we cancel Brighton conference? 29.03.2020 47:37
In a special tie-up with the Lib Dem Podcast, I'm interviewed by Cllr John Potter about the decision to postpone the Liberal Democrat leadership election and whether or not the party's autumn federal conference should be cancelled. Show notes Leadership election postponed The Lib Dem Podcast: Twitter / Instagram / iTunes
Coronavirus: the Hong Kong experience and what next for British politics? With Phil Cowley 27.03.2020 32:15
In the latest episode of Never Mind The Bar Charts, I speak with Professor Phil Cowley , one of Britain’s leading political scientists, co-author for several general elections of authoritative Nuffield study and someone who casts the net so widely in his research that I occasionally appear in his footnotes. Phil’s been on my list of possible guests for a while, but I particularly wanted to talk to...
How you can figure out which news stories to trust: the story behind Bad News 20.03.2020 23:11
Before the coronavirus crisis hit, I recorded a podcast with my published, Biteback Books, about my new book, Bad News . Listen to find out how you can make sense of the news all around us, the problem with news coverage on gun control, the (lack of a problem) with news echo chambers and filter bubbles , why I look back on my daily commute in years past with amazement and how I came to write Bad N...
What does the polling data say about the future for the Lib Dems? Interview with Paula Surridge 19.03.2020 29:01
In the latest episode of Never Mind The Bar Charts, I welcomed back to the show academic Paula Surridge. We talked about what the British Election Study is and what its polling data from the 2019 general election shows, including its implications for the future for the Liberal Democrats. Show notes Paula Surridge on Twitter. Is politics still about left versus right? - the previous show with Paula...
What's it like being a councillor and how do you get to be one? With Anton Georgiou 09.03.2020 27:49
In the latest episode of Never Mind The Bar Charts, I talk with Councillor Anton Georgiou from Brent, who won a spectacular by-election victory in January and is now getting to enjoy being a councillor. What's it like? How did he win? And how can others emulate him? Listen to find out... Show notes Anton Georgiou's by-election victory . His tweets about being a councillor . The importance of point...
What does a Liberal Democrat council leader do? With Cllr Stephen Robinson 10.02.2020 29:30
In this episode of Never Mind The Bar Charts, the Liberal Democrat leader of Chelmsford Council, Stephen Robinson is interviewed about what Lib Dem council leader does, and how he got to be one in the first place. Show notes: The Chelmsford team were great at welcoming and making good use of volunteers who came to help . Read the then Conservative leader of Chelmsford Council explaining before pol...
How do you make someone join a political party? Tim Bale has the evidence 23.01.2020 28:51
Professor Tim Bale, one of the leading experts in political party membership, talks about who joins parties, why they join and how those who join the Liberal Democrats differ from those who join other parties. Plus he gives his top tips on how to persuade people to join a party. Show notes: Footsoldiers: political party membership in the 21st century . Why supporters don't always join parties . Th...
What does the future hold for British politics? With Lynne Featherstone 04.01.2020 33:20
Welcome to the first episode of Never Mind The Bar Charts's second season, featuring for the first special guest former Liberal Democrat MP Lynne Featherstone. Show notes: Lynne Featherstone's book on legalising same-sex marriage . The Guardian story which chose to highlight a coffee shop in the headline rather than a library. Lynne Featherstone and a pothole . An example of the sort of local camp...
Season 1 Finale: an interim elections post-mortem 16.12.2019 42:53
In the final episode of season one, Mark and Stephen pick over the general election result, another less important election result and the plans for Season 2 of Never Mind The Bar Charts. Find Never Mind The Bar Charts on social media Like the show? Do follow on Twitter or Facebook . It's a great way to hear more about the podcast - and to let your friends and colleagues know about it too.
How to change the result of the election with the help of targeting 06.12.2019 53:44
Welcome to the latest episode of Never Mind The Bar Charts, taking a look at the key role for targeting in general elections, how the Lib Dem Brexit policy is going down with voters, some seats to watch out for on election night and a very large number of digressions. Show notes Reactions to Jo Swinson's interview with Andrew Neil. The BBC's fact check of that interview. Fiona Bruce's Question Tim...
How is the Liberal Democrat general election campaign going? 29.11.2019 47:07
In Episode #24, Stephen and Mark take a look at how the Liberal Democrat general election campaign is going so far. They used a blog post from Mark about the YouGov MRP results to structure their discussion, so here as the show notes is an updated version of that post: https://www.markpack.org.uk/160501/yougov-mrp-polling/ . Find Never Mind The Bar Charts on social media Like the show? Do follow o...
Prince Andrew, I'm A Celebrity Get Me Out Of Here, and the Liberal Democrats 18.11.2019 34:57
Welcome to the latest episode of Never Mind The Bar Charts, which takes a look at the general election and in particular the policy-heavy message the Liberal Democrats are pushing. Show notes The David Davis 'look, no notes' photo . One , two , three , four Lib Dem candidate problems. Not Enough Campagne podcast on the impact of candidate deals. A summary of the Liberal Democrat policies . The pro...
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