Napo the Union
Napo Podcast
The official podcast from the trade union for probation and family court staff in England, Wales and Northern Ireland. Join us as we dive into the real issues facing justice professionals and trade unionists today—on the frontline, in the workplace, and across the wider system. With interviews, insights and honest conversations, we’re here to champion public safety, fairness and professional standards
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Jul 9, 2026
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Episodes
Making Motions Matter: Jeanne from Steering Explains AGM Power 01.07.2025 11:37
What’s a motion? Why does AGM matter? And how can members get involved? In this episode, Jeanne from Steering Committee explains the ins and outs of Napo’s AGM — from writing clear, purposeful motions to speaking in debate and getting your idea passed. Presented and Produced by Taytula Burke | A Napo Podcast Production
Cafcass: pay, partnership and the future 13.06.2025 12:33
In this episode, Napo General Secretary Ian Lawrence discusses the joint pay claim with UNISON, the reality behind Ofsted’s “outstanding” rating, and why retaining experienced staff is just as vital as attracting new talent. He also reflects on Pathfinder, MoJ interference, and why structural change might be necessary. Plus, a rallying message for members: unions make change — but only when member...
Sentencing Review: Reform or Rhetoric 06.06.2025 18:40
In this episode, Napo General Secretary Ian Lawrence gives his unfiltered take on the government’s new Sentencing Review. From the promising headlines to the worrying silences, Ian talks through what the review gets right, what it ignores, and why it’s not enough to ask probation staff to do more with less — again. He discusses electronic monitoring, AI, private sector risks, and what the governme...
Justice at a Crossroads: Reform or Collapse? 28.05.2025 14:24
The UK justice system is under extreme pressure — from rising prison numbers to an exhausted probation service and a family courts system starved of resources. In this episode, Napo General Secretary Ian Lawrence reflects on the tipping point we’ve reached, the choices ahead for the Labour government, and why proper investment — not just promises — is the only way forward. From the failure of puni...
Fighting for fair pay: how probation pay negotiations really work 21.05.2025 5:01
In this episode of the Napo Podcast, we’re talking all things pay. With formal negotiations for the 2025–26 year now underway, General Secretary Ian Lawrence joins us to explain what’s in the probation pay claim, how the negotiation process works, and why this year’s talks are shaping up to be some of the toughest yet. From understanding the civil service pay remit to what happens if talks break d...
Is the Ministry of Justice Fit for Purpose? 14.05.2025 15:21
Is the MoJ delivering on its promises—or failing those who work in and rely on the justice system? Napo’s General Secretary, Ian Lawrence, joins host Tay for a candid conversation about what’s going wrong in probation and the family courts, and what must change. Hosted and produced by Taytula Burke | A Napo Podcast Production
Power, Politics and Probation: Napo's voice in Westminster 08.05.2025 8:45
Ever wondered how the issues facing probation and family court staff end up on the desks of MPs and ministers? In this episode, we go behind the scenes with Charley from the Justice Unions Parliamentary Group (JUPG) to uncover how the political wheels turn. From quiet lobbying to strategic pressure in Westminster, we explore how Napo’s concerns are raised at the highest levels—and why this work is...
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