Emily M. Bender and Alex Hanna
Mystery AI Hype Theater 3000
Artificial Intelligence has too much hype. In this podcast, linguist Emily M. Bender and sociologist Alex Hanna break down the AI hype, separate fact from fiction, and science from bloviation. They're joined by special guests and talk about everything, from machine consciousness to science fiction, to political economy to art made by machines.
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Jul 7, 2026
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Episode 33: Much Ado About 'AI' 'Deception', May 20 2024 05.06.2024 1:00:30
Will the LLMs somehow become so advanced that they learn to lie to us in order to achieve their own ends? It's the stuff of science fiction, and in science fiction these claims should remain. Emily and guest host Margaret Mitchell , machine learning researcher and chief ethics scientist at HuggingFace, break down why 'AI deception' is firmly a feature of human hype. Reference: Patte...
Episode 32: A Flood of AI Hell, April 29 2024 23.05.2024 57:48
AI Hell froze over this winter and now a flood of meltwater threatens to drown Alex and Emily. Armed with raincoats and a hastily-written sea shanty*, they tour the realms, from spills of synthetic information, to the special corner reserved for ShotSpotter. **Lyrics & video on Peertube . *Surveillance:* Public kiosks slurp phone data Workplace surveillance Surveillance by bathroom mirror Stal...
Episode 31: Science Is a Human Endeavor (feat. Molly Crockett and Lisa Messeri), April 15 2024 07.05.2024 1:02:57
Will AI someday do all our scientific research for us? Not likely. Drs. Molly Crockett and Lisa Messeri join for a takedown of the hype of "self-driving labs" and why such misrepresentations also harm the humans who are vital to scientific research. Dr. Molly Crockett is an associate professor of psychology at Princeton University. Dr. Lisa Messeri is an associate professor of anthropolo...
Episode 30: Marc's Miserable Manifesto, April 1 2024 19.04.2024 1:00:45
Dr. Timnit Gebru guest-hosts with Alex in a deep dive into Marc Andreessen's 2023 manifesto, which argues, loftily, in favor of maximizing the use of 'AI' in all possible spheres of life. Timnit Gebru is the founder and executive director of the Distributed Artificial Intelligence Research Institute (DAIR) . Prior to that she was fired by Google, where she was serving as co-lead of...
Episode 29: How LLMs Are Breaking the News (feat. Karen Hao), March 25 2024 03.04.2024 1:02:30
Award-winning AI journalist Karen Hao joins Alex and Emily to talk about why LLMs can't possibly replace the work of reporters -- and why the hype is damaging to already-struggling and necessary publications. References: Adweek: Google Is Paying Publishers to Test an Unreleased Gen AI Platform The Quint: AI Invents Quote From Real Person in Article by Bihar News Site: A Wake-Up Call? Fresh AI...
Episode 28: LLMs Are Not Human Subjects, March 4 2024 13.03.2024 1:00:57
Alex and Emily put on their social scientist hats and take on the churn of research papers suggesting that LLMs could be used to replace human labor in social science research -- or even human subjects. Why these writings are essentially calls to fabricate data. References: PNAS: ChatGPT outperforms crowd workers for text-annotation tasks Beware the Hype: ChatGPT Didn't Replace Human Data Ann...
Episode 27: Asimov's Laws vs. 'AI' Death-Making (w/ Annalee Newitz & Charlie Jane Anders), February 19 2024 29.02.2024 1:04:42
Science fiction authors and all-around tech thinkers Annalee Newitz and Charlie Jane Anders join this week to talk about Isaac Asimov's oft-cited and equally often misunderstood laws of robotics , as debuted in his short story collection, 'I, Robot.' Meanwhile, both global and US military institutions are declaring interest in 'ethical' frameworks for autonomous weaponry....
Episode 26: Universities Anxiously Buy in to the Hype (feat. Chris Gilliard), February 5 2024 15.02.2024 59:52
Just Tech Fellow Dr. Chris Gilliard aka "Hypervisible" joins Emily and Alex to talk about the wave of universities adopting AI-driven educational technologies, and the lack of protections they offer students in terms of data privacy or even emotional safety. References: Inside Higher Ed: Arizona State Joins ChatGPT in First Higher Ed Partnership ASU press release version: New Collaborati...
Episode 25: An LLM Says LLMs Can Do Your Job, January 22 2024 01.02.2024 56:29
Is ChatGPT really going to take your job? Emily and Alex unpack two hype-tastic papers that make implausible claims about the number of workforce tasks LLMs might make cheaper, faster or easier. And why bad methodology may still trick companies into trying to replace human workers with mathy-math. Visit us on PeerTube for the video of this conversation. References: OpenAI: GPTs are GPTs Goldman Sa...
Episode 24: AI Won't Solve Structural Inequality (feat. Kerry McInerney & Eleanor Drage), January 8 2024 17.01.2024 1:00:17
New year, same Bullshit Mountain. Alex and Emily are joined by feminist technosolutionism critics Eleanor Drage and Kerry McInerney to tear down the ways AI is proposed as a solution to structural inequality, including racism, ableism, and sexism -- and why this hype can occlude the need for more meaningful changes in institutions. Dr. Eleanor Drage is a Senior Research Fellow at the Leverhulme Ce...
Episode 23: AI Hell Freezes Over, December 22 2023 10.01.2024 1:04:42
AI Hell has frozen over for a single hour. Alex and Emily visit all seven circles in a tour of the worst in bite-sized BS. References: Pentagon moving toward letting AI weapons autonomously kill humans NYC Mayor uses AI to make robocalls in languages he doesn’t speak University of Michigan investing in OpenAI Tesla: claims of “full self-driving” are free speech LLMs may not "understand"...
Episode 22: Congressional 'AI' Hearings Say More about Lawmakers (feat. Justin Hendrix), December 18 2023 03.01.2024 57:52
Congress spent 2023 busy with hearings to investigate the capabilities, risks and potential uses of large language models and other 'artificial intelligence' systems. Alex and Emily, plus journalist Justin Hendrix, talk about the limitations of these hearings, the alarmist fixation on so-called 'p(doom)' and overdue laws on data privacy. Justin Hendrix is editor of the Tech Pol...
Episode 21: The True Meaning of 'Open Source' (feat. Sarah West and Andreas Liesenfeld), November 20 2023 30.11.2023 1:04:08
Researchers Sarah West and Andreas Liesenfeld join Alex and Emily to examine what software companies really mean when they say their work is 'open source,' and call for greater transparency. This episode was recorded on November 20, 2023. Dr. Sarah West is the managing director of the AI Now Institute. Her award-winning research and writing blends social science, policy, and historical m...
Episode 20: Let's Do the Time Warp! (to the "Founding" of "Artificial Intelligence"), November 6 2023 21.11.2023 1:04:53
Emily and Alex time travel back to a conference of men who gathered at Dartmouth College in the summer of 1956 to examine problems relating to computation and "thinking machines," an event commonly mythologized as the founding of the field of artificial intelligence. But our crack team of AI hype detectives is on the case with a close reading of the grant proposal that started it all. Th...
Episode 19: The Murky Climate and Environmental Impact of Large Language Models, November 6 2023 08.11.2023 1:01:21
Drs. Emma Strubell and Sasha Luccioni join Emily and Alex for an environment-focused hour of AI hype. How much carbon does a single use of ChatGPT emit? What about the water or energy consumption of manufacturing the graphics processing units that train various large language models? Why even catastrophic estimates from well-meaning researchers may not tell the full story. This episode was recorde...
Episode 18: Rumors of Artificial General Intelligence Have Been Greatly Exaggerated, October 23 2023 31.10.2023 1:00:02
Emily and Alex read through Google vice president Blaise Aguera y Arcas' recent proclamation that "artificial general intelligence is already here." Why this claim is a maze of hype and moving goalposts. References: Noema Magazine: "Artificial General Intelligence Is Already Here." "AI and the Everything in the Whole Wide World Benchmark" "Targeting the...
Episode 17: Back to School with AI Hype in Education (feat. Haley Lepp), September 22 2023 04.10.2023 1:01:54
Emily and Alex are joined by Stanford PhD student Haley Lepp to examine the increasing hype around LLMs in education spaces - whether they're pitched as ways to reduce teacher workloads, increase accessibility, or simply "democratize learning and knowing" in the Global South. Plus a double dose of devaluating educator expertise and fatalism about the 'inevitability' of LLM...
Episode 16: Med-PaLM or Facepalm? A Second Opinion On LLMs In Healthcare (feat. Roxana Daneshjou), August 28, 2023 28.09.2023 1:02:02
Alex and Emily are taking another stab at Google and other companies' aspirations to be part of the healthcare system - this time with the expertise of Stanford incoming assistant professor of dermatology and biomedical data science Roxana Daneshjou . A look at the gap between medical licensing examination questions and real life, and the inherently two-tiered system that might emerge if LLMs...
Episode 15: The White House And Big Tech Dance The Self-Regulation Tango, August 11 2023 20.09.2023 1:04:05
Emily and Alex tackle the White House hype about the 'voluntary commitments' of companies to limit the harms of their large language models: but only some large language models, and only some, over-hyped kinds of harms. Plus a full portion of Fresh Hell...and a little bit of good news. References: White House press release on voluntary commitments Emily’s blog post critiquing the “volunt...
Episode 14: Henry Kissinger, Machines of War, and the Age of Military AI Hype (feat. Lucy Suchman), July 21 2023 13.09.2023 1:01:15
Emily and Alex are joined by technology scholar Dr. Lucy Suchman to scrutinize a new book from Henry Kissinger and coauthors Eric Schmidt and Daniel Huttenlocher that declares a new 'Age of AI,' with abundant hype about the capacity of large language models for warmaking. Plus close scrutiny of Palantir's debut of an artificial intelligence platform for combat, and why the company i...
Episode 13: Beware The Robo-Therapist (feat. Hannah Zeavin), June 8 2023 07.09.2023 1:00:53
Emily and Alex talk to UC Berkeley scholar Hannah Zeavin about the case of the National Eating Disorders Association helpline, which tried to replace human volunteers with a chatbot --and why the datafication and automation of mental health services are an injustice that will disproportionately affect the already vulnerable. Content note: This is a conversation that touches on mental health, peopl...
Episode 12: It's All Hell, May 5 2023 29.08.2023 1:01:12
Take a deep breath and join Alex and Emily in AI Hell itself, as they take down a month's worth of hype in a mere 60 minutes. This episode aired on Friday, May 5, 2023. Watch the video of this episode on PeerTube . References: Terrifying NEJM article on GPT-4 in medicine “Healthcare professionals preferred ChatGPT 79% of the time” Good thoughts from various experts in response ChatGPT suppose...
Episode 11: A GPT-4 Fanfiction Novella, April 7 2023 24.08.2023 1:03:21
After a hype-y few weeks of AI happenings, Alex and Emily shovel the BS on GPT-4’s “system card,” its alleged “sparks of Artificial General Intelligence,” and a criti-hype heavy "AI pause" letter. Hint: for a good time, check the citations. This episode originally aired on Friday, April 7, 2023. You can also watch the video of this episode on PeerTube . References: GPT-4 system card: htt...
Episode 10: Don't Be A Lawyer, ChatGPT. March 3, 2023 16.08.2023 1:06:49
Alex and Emily are taking AI to court! Amid big claims about LLMs, a look at the facts about ChatGPT, legal expertise, and what the bar exam actually tells you about someone's ability to practice law--with help from Harvard legal and technology scholar Kendra Albert . This episode was first recorded on March 3, 2023. Watch the video of this episode on PeerTube . References: Social Science Res...
Episode 9: Call the AI Quack Doctor, February 17, 2023 08.08.2023 1:02:39
Should the mathy-maths be telling doctors what might be wrong with you? And can they actually help train medical professionals to treat human patients? Alex and Emily discuss the not-so-real medical and healthcare applications of ChatGPT and other large language models. Plus another round of fresh AI hell, featuring "charisma as a service," and other assorted reasons to tear your hair ou...
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