Association for Middle Level Education
Middle School Walk & Talk
A podcast series offering heart, hope, and health to members of our middle school communities. Hosts Phyllis Fagell and Jessica McGuire model wellness as they walk and talk while recording each episode. Listeners are encouraged to take a walk, too, as they listen to discussions on self-care, student well-being, school culture, and more. Middle School Walk and Talk is designed to support the concepts found in the book, The Successful Middle School: This We Believe, and is a production of the Association for Middle Level Education. For more information, visit www.amle.org.
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May 5, 2026
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Episodes
Productive Noise: Elevating Student Voice in Middle School with guest Sandy Cameli 18.12.2024 26:03
Join hosts Jessica McGuire and Phyllis Fagell as they chat with Sandy Cameli, a seasoned middle level educator and author of Successful Middle School Student Voice , about the nuances of fostering young adolescent student voice. Sandy shares insights from the book, including defining student voice beyond verbal expression, discussing how to implement student voice strategies like the "3-2-1&...
You Can Only Go Halfway: The Role of Trusted Adults in Middle School with guest Brooklyn Raney 03.12.2024 26:54
In this episode of Middle School Walk and Talk, hosts Phyllis Fagell and Jessica McGuire converse with practitioner researcher Brooklyn Raney about the crucial role of trusted adults in schools. Raney discusses her work on how to ensure every student has an advocate, emphasizing the importance of accessibility, boundaries, and genuine care. She shares practical advice on how educators can leverage...
Winning Screen Time - It's more than "put the phone down...put the phone down...put the phone down" with guest Patrick Green 20.11.2024 25:26
In this episode of Middle School Walk and Talk , Phyllis Fagell and Jessica McGuire sit down with Patrick Green, a former middle school teacher turned digital wellness expert, to discuss the challenges of managing technology in schools and at home. Patrick shares insights on how to help students balance their online and offline lives, emphasizing the importance of setting boundaries, especially ar...
Students Sound Off on the Modern Middle School Experience 02.10.2024 26:21
In this episode of "Middle School Walk and Talk," hosts Phyllis Fagel and Jessica McGuire dive into the heart of middle school life through the voices of today's students. Featuring finalists from AMLE's Student Sound Off contest, the episode explores the challenges and triumphs of being a middle schooler in 2024, from navigating social media misunderstandings to balancing acad...
Financial Literacy Ed - Its More Than Balancing the Checkbook 03.09.2024 32:12
Cryptocurrency... digital banking... online scams... How can we prepare kids to be financially empowered in a constantly changing world? Khalia Murray, Education Partnership Specialist, and Kevin Mechenbier, Content Manager for Financial Education at EVERFI, join Phyllis and Jessica to explore what financial literacy can and should look like in the middle grades. When is the right time to introduc...
Back to School Trends 2024: Beeping at you all day long 29.07.2024 27:30
From the latest TikTok trends causing chaos and the increasing push to limit cell phones in middle schools, to continuing rates of chronic absenteeism, Phyllis and Jessica are back and they’re talking all the trends they’re seeing as we head back to school for the 2024-2025 year. They also discuss innovative approaches schools are taking to improve kids’ engagement in school and how to use all th...
Emerging AI Trends for the Middle School Educator with Special Guests from the AMLE Teacher Leaders Committee 09.04.2024 29:35
Whether or not you've begun to explore the capabilities of AI, your students certainly have. How can educators help students leverage AI to deepen their learning, instead of just using it as a shortcut? Megan Vosk, Joe Pizzo, Dustin Purdy, and Marri Bayour, middle grades educators and members of AMLE's Teacher Leaders Committee, stop by the podcast to talk emerging trends and why AI repr...
When Kids Don't Know How to Attribute Success or Failure, They Make Up Reasons with special guest Miriam Plotinsky 25.03.2024 23:14
What does it mean for a student to have an academic identity? Miriam Plotinsky, author of Writing their Future Selves and Teach More, Hover Less, stops by the podcast to talk how teachers can value kids brains as well as their identities as people. Phyllis, Jessica, and Miriam dig into a range of topics, including how to celebrate mistakes as pathways to learning, how to help students break down s...
Middle School is a Lot About Finding Yourself with Special Guests Students Laila Hayes and Gabriela Berrios Ortiz 11.03.2024 18:44
What’s it like being a middle schooler today? 8th grader Laila Hayes and 9th grader Gabriela Berrios Ortiz dropped by the podcast to dispel what they believe are common myths about middle schoolers, the traits of their most effective teachers, and the social challenges and pressures they face today. Episode Notes: This podcast was recorded during the AMLE50 50th Anniversary Annual Conference in N...
We are So Done Pivoting with Special Guest Kelly Coash-Johnson 27.02.2024 23:19
As Executive Director of the American Association of School Personnel Administrators, representing school HR professionals, Kelly Coash-Johnson heard frequently about the impacts of the educator shortage, but noticed more finger pointing than solution generating. As a result, AASPA collaborated with organizations and stakeholders across education to convene the first National Educator Shortage Su...
Back to Mental Health Basics with Special Guest Anitra Warrior 13.02.2024 27:54
Dr. Anitra Warrior, psychologist and owner of Morningstar Counseling, stops by the podcast to talk about youth mental health and getting back to the basics of adolescent development. Dr. Warrior specializes in Native youth mental health and offers insights and practical language and tips educators can use to support Native students and their families through culturally affirming practices. Middle...
The False Dichotomy of College or No College with Special Guest Jean Eddy 30.01.2024 17:39
Middle school is the perfect time to introduce career exploration opportunities to kids. They're developmentally tuned to think about their future and investigate their interests. But, too often, kids start to self-select based on what they perceive they’re good at or what they’ve already been exposed to. Jean Eddy, author of Crisis-Proofing Today’s Learners , is on a mission to help reimagin...
The Most Brilliant Use of 60 Seconds with Special Guest Laurie Barron 16.01.2024 25:54
Believe it or not…schools have a leg up on mighty social media when it comes to engaging kids, especially tweens. While so much of the affirmation kids receive online is artificial and fake, schools can create true belonging and spaces where they can become their best selves. Laurie Barron, superintendent and author of Middle School: A Place to Belong and Become , joins co-hosts Phyllis and Jessic...
Learning Doesn’t Stop at the School Door with Special Guest Autumn Rivera 01.01.2024 16:53
From riding roller coasters to rafting down the Colorado River, AMLE Educator of the Year Autumn Rivera is always finding ways to integrate the community as a source of learning for her 6th grade science students. She stopped by the Walk & Talk Podcast to talk about her approach to engaging middle schoolers, tackling the challenges of rural education, and why now is the time for teachers to ta...
The Misunderstood Middle with Special Guest Kevin Armstrong 12.12.2023 16:06
Too often, the middle grades get lumped in with elementary or high school instead of being recognized as its own, unique entity. Even worse, middle grades leadership can be seen as just a stepping stone to high school leadership, instead of requiring a unique and equivalent skill set as well as a deep knowledge of young adolescent development. Kevin Armstrong, president-elect of the National Assoc...
Leave the Gun, Take the Cannolis. Empowering Teachers to Drive Student Participation with Special Guests Bill and Persida Himmele. 29.11.2023 24:38
Leveraging their diverse backgrounds in speech pathology, bilingual education, elementary and secondary teaching, and more, Persida and Bill Himmele are on a mission to empower educators to engage every student. They join co-hosts Phyllis and Jessica to talk about barriers and solutions to middle school disengagement and how to build trust between teacher and student – and administrator and teache...
Middle School is a People Business with Special Guest Dr. Daryl Williams 13.11.2023 25:50
Just by the very nature of young adolescents, middle school should be a fun place! But it seems we’ve lost some of that joy in our schools. Dr. Daryl Williams, former Superintendent of Baltimore County Public Schools and current Professor of Practice at Morgan State University, sits down with Phyllis and Jessica to talk about how school leaders can help bring that professional satisfaction back in...
This is So Awkward - Seeing the Humanity in Puberty with Special Guests Cara Natterson & Vanessa Kroll Bennett 10.10.2023 42:45
Co-hosts Phyllis and Jessica are joined by some very special guests, the authors of the highly anticipated book, This is So Awkward: Modern Puberty Explained. And boy do we dig into puberty in this exciting episode! The most jaw-dropping fact about modern-day growing up is how much earlier it begins. Today’s kids enter puberty an average of two years younger than their parents did. In fact, it’s...
Kids are Kids, No Matter Where They Learn 20.09.2023 15:46
In this first episode of the new season, Phyllis Fagell and her new co-host, Principal Jessica McGuire, talk 2023 back to school trends. Electric scooters, sleep schedules, and anxious tweens, oh my! Middle School Walk & Talk is a production of the Association for Middle Level Education. Learn more at amle.org.
A Shamed Brain Can’t Learn with Special Guest Jen Cort 30.05.2023 21:18
News flash! Kids make mistakes. So how do we adequately address the behavior while creating space for learning and growing? Phyllis and Joe are joined by Jen Cort, author of Help Us Begin: HUB strategies and mindsets for meaningful conversations with kids, especially when you are challenged by the topic . Jen offers some practical tips on how to effectively communicate with adolescents in ways th...
There are Always Going to be Haters with Special Guest Sameer Hinduja 15.05.2023 24:07
How is empathy related to kids’ likelihood to engage in cyberbullying? How can we teach kids resiliency when they face mean behaviors online and in real life? What skills can we teach kids to help them have more positive online experiences? Phyllis and Joe talk with celebrated author and cyberbullying expert Dr. Sameer Hinduja about how to equip kids with an action plan for their online lives. Mi...
Kids on Edge 18.04.2023 22:11
Phyllis and Joe use spring break to catch up on current events. They talk about kids’ reactions to recent incidents of gun violence in schools and how the proliferation of hate speech online is impacting student mental health. The co-hosts discuss how to help kids build resiliency and learn to deal with the challenges of adolescent social life. On a lighter note, a karaoke machine makes an appeara...
What do we really believe? Supporting Ourselves and Supporting our Students with Guest Rick Wormeli 07.02.2023 33:20
Teacher wellness has become the latest buzz word as schools continue to struggle to recruit and retain enough educators to meet community needs. It turns out, encouraging the adoption of yoga classes isn’t quite enough. But there are meaningful things schools and districts can do to support their staff – and their students – both physically and emotionally. Rick Wormeli joined Joe Mazza and Phyl...
You Wouldn't Teach Sharks in the Grasslands with Special Guests Cornelius Minor and Kass Minor 18.01.2023 16:23
Who is school for? When we talk about redesigning school...what are we really talking about? Phyllis and Joe chat with Cornelius Minor and Kass Minor, New York City educators and authors, whose work focuses on how to create fully inclusive learning experiences for kids. Middle School Walk & Talk is a production of the Association for Middle Level Education. Learn more at amle.org.
Reimagining School Discipline with Special Guests Nathan Maynard and Dr. Belinda George 04.01.2023 21:21
What would happen if we treated students...like real human beings? Phyllis and Joe and joined by Nathan Maynard, co-author of Hacking School Discipline, and Dr. Belinda George, who gained international notoriety for her "tucked in Tuesdays," who both share how their own experiences as youths shaped their thinking around positive discipline and the use of restorative practices in schools....
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