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Meeting of Minds Podcast
Meeting of Minds brings together the top minds in history, theology, finance, economics, language, mathematics and science. Host Jerry Bowyer invites guests to be both intelligent and clear and to follow truth wherever it leads.
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Jun 26, 2026
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Episodes
Gabriella Hoffman: Opposing Communism, Energy Optimism, & Mamdani’s New York 06.10.2025 51:29
In Ep. 118, Isaac Willour from Bowyer Research sits down with Gabriella Hoffman, the director of the Center for Energy and Conservation at Independent Women's Forum. Join us for a wide-ranging conversation, including: The Gen-Z populism behind the rise of socialist candidates such as Zohran Mamdani The inherent privilege of being anti-energy — and why that matters Is ‘Abundance’...
Racial Gerrymandering, Property Rights, & Biofuel Fiction 28.08.2025 52:00
In Ep. #117, Jerry speaks with Dr. John Fleming, treasurer of the state of Louisiana, for a wide-ranging conversation. Topics include: Do decarbonization efforts, from net zero to carbon capture, actually do anything? How racial gerrymandering creates a more polarized nation The history of property rights — and why that matters in creating wealth for ordinary Americans. See omnystudio.com/li...
Science, Tech, and Building a Robust Theology of AI 18.08.2025 35:22
In this episode, Isaac is joined by Dr. Brian Dellinger, AI expert and professor of computer science at Grove City College. We discuss: What a real theology of technology looks like Why Christian culture is so reflexively anti-AI Can AI be a tool for kingdom-building? Hint: the answer’s yes. Check out Grove City College’s work with AI in Biblical translation here: https://www.gcc.edu/H...
Dear McDonald’s: Focus on Fries, Not Quotas 15.08.2025 27:07
In this episode, Jerry welcomes Newsweek’s Jesse Edwards to unpack the controversy surrounding McDonalds’ decision to step back from its DEI (Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion) hiring quotas. Together, they explore: Why corporations are expected to take stances on social and political issues at all How DEI initiatives often lead to further corporate activism — and unintended conse...
From Being Debanked to Fighting Debanking, w/ Alabama Auditor Andrew Sorrell 31.07.2025 18:34
In Ep. 114, Jerry sits down with Alabama State Auditor Andrew Sorrell. Join us for a fascinating conversation on topics including: Sorrell’s personal experience with being debanked Who’s the bigger problem in debanking: big banks or regional banks? How debanking creates problems in the cryptocurrency industry How banking restrictions threaten Second Amendment rights - and how Alabama&r...
Red States, Real Money: Utah Treasurer Marlo Oaks on Gold, Bitcoin, & Economic Freedom 29.07.2025 43:45
In Episode 113 of Meeting of Minds, Utah State Treasurer Marlo Oaks returns for a compelling discussion on how alternative currencies—especially gold-backed systems—could offer economic resilience and restore financial autonomy to states seeking greater independence from federal monetary policy. Jerry and Treasurer Oaks explore: How gold is strengthening state rainy-day funds in Utah T...
Sustainability, Recycling, & Why Corporate America is Rethinking Plastic 22.07.2025 25:13
In Ep. 112, Isaac Willour from Bowyer Research sits down with Dr. Chris DeArmitt, a materials scientist, author, and public speaker known for his work discussing misconceptions surrounding the environmental impact of plastics. Join us for a conversation about corporate America’s plastic policies, recycling, and what the future of real sustainability looks like. Check out Chris’ work he...
David Bahnsen on Why High-Achievers Struggle To Relate To the Church 12.07.2025 26:52
In Ep. 111, David Bahnsen returns to the podcast to discuss how high-achievers struggle to relate to the church, how the lessons of God’s creation carry a call to human ambition, and other lessons sparked from his recent book Full-Time: Work and the Meaning of Life. Check out David’s recent book here: https://www.fulltimebook.com/ See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Oklahoma Treasurer Todd Russ' Speech to Lululemon: Stop Partnering With Activist Organizations 18.06.2025 2:04
Oklahoma State Treasurer Todd Russ gave this speech at Lululemon's annual meeting of shareholders recently, defending a shareholder proposal urging the company to back away from partnering with non-fiduciary corporate activist groups like the Human Rights Campaign, and take seriously the controversy caused by the company's previous donations to radical organizations like Black Lives Matter & R...
The Kind of Mentorship That Creates Wisdom and Wealth 13.06.2025 37:12
In Ep. 110, Jerry sits down with author Eric Dunavant, author, entrepreneur and creator of the Kingdom ROI (Return on Intention) method. They discuss Eric’s recent book, At the Bistro with Bob , the story of Dunavant’s friendship with oilman Bob Pritchard. Jerry & Eric also discuss the importance of exercising ownership of companies, how to balance transferring wisdom & wealth,...
Engaging the World’s Most Powerful Companies For the Most Vulnerable People 11.06.2025 33:58
In Ep. 109, Isaac Willour from Bowyer Research sits down with Tommy Martin, CEO of the Tebow Group. Join us for a wide-ranging conversation on topics like: Biblical lessons for business – from 1 Samuel to Paul How Christians should navigate the 21st century job market The incredible work that the Tebow Group is doing to bring faith, hope, and love to the darkest parts of the world &nb...
Rick Figueroa’s Speech to Meta: Be Honest About Stopping AI-Driven Child Porn 09.06.2025 1:52
Financial advisor Rick Figueroa gave this speech at Meta’s annual meeting of shareholders several weeks ago, defending a shareholder proposal urging Meta to be transparent with shareholders regarding preventing AI-driven child exploitation. This proposal received one of the highest levels of vote support in Bowyer Research's history - we present Rick’s excellent speech here for our lis...
American Family Association's Speech to Apple: Take Online Child Abuse Seriously! 23.05.2025 2:10
Walker Wildmon, vice president of American Family Association, gave this speech at Apple's annual meeting of shareholders earlier this year, defending a shareholder proposal urging Apple to explain its lax policies regarding online child abuse and distribution of child pornography. This proposal received one of the highest levels of vote support in Bowyer Research's history - we present Wildmon's...
David Bahnsen’s Speech to Gilead Shareholders – Ditch Supplier Diversity Quotas 22.05.2025 3:29
One of Bowyer Research’s clients, financial advisor David Bahnsen, recently spoke at Gilead Sciences’ annual meeting in defense of a shareholder proposal asking the company to eschew divisive DEI quotas in its supplier policies. We’re presenting the speech here for our listeners. Learn more about The Bahnsen Group here . See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
How the Financial Consulting Industry Weaponizes Christians’ Money Against Them 20.05.2025 32:29
In episode 108, Jerry sits down with Rich Todd, CEO and co-founder of Innovest, to talk about one of the biggest drivers in value-based investments: financial consultants . Rich & Jerry discuss the Christian philosophical rebuttal to ESG & DEI, the importance of having an investment manager with a pro-Christian culture, and what it truly means to be “equally yoked” when it come...
Jerry's Speech to BlackRock: Against Stakeholderism 17.05.2025 3:12
Recently, Jerry (as president of Bowyer Research) gave a short speech to the board of directors of BlackRock, asking the company (1) to move back to political neutrality and (2) to go back to the classical economics of shareholder capitalism as opposed to stakeholderism. We present the speech (three minutes in length) here for our listeners to listen to. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy inf...
“The Idea That Bill Gates Is Going to Tell Us How to Protect the Environment Is Galling.” 16.05.2025 59:55
Few people are as keyed in on ESG’s “war on food” as former Nebraska State Treasurer John Murante. In Ep. 107, Murante sits down with Jerry to discuss how corporate activism is leaning heavily into anti-agriculture sentiment, how utopian visions of animal welfare create dystopia in reality, and how fiduciary duty gets applied to everything from carbon emissions to crypto investme...
Combatting the CCP, Vanquishing Vanguard, & Protecting Taxpayer Dollars in Missouri 13.05.2025 40:52
In Ep. 106, Jerry sits down with Missouri Treasurer Vivek Malek to discuss the threat of China, the ongoing battle with Vanguard’s self-perpetuating autocracy, and the ‘Three-P’ approach: protecting taxpayers’ dollars, providing opportunities, and promoting the promise of America. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Protestant Economics, Chesterton, & ESG Elitism 02.05.2025 39:04
In. Ep. 105, Isaac Willour from Bowyer Research sits down for a conversation with Dr. Paul Mueller, senior fellow at the American Institute for Economic Research (AIER). Join us for an in-depth discussion of a Protestant approach to economics, how ESG agendas advance elitist ideology, and how G.K. Chesterton can fix our social media problems. Check out Dr. Mueller’s work at AIER here: https:...
Winning Back Our Voice: Christian Investing, Proxy Voting, ESG/DEI Pushback, and Prudential Judgment 29.04.2025 58:51
In Ep. 104, Jerry sits down with Tim Schwarzenberger, CFA, of Inspire Investing. The next installment of our miniseries on a Catholic response to ESG explores how Christian investors can apply faith and prudential judgment to today’s complex investment landscape. They dive into the levels of Church teaching authority, discuss why reclaiming shareholder voice through proxy voting is so import...
How ESG Twists Religious Ideology — And What to Do About It 22.04.2025 53:20
In Ep. 103, Jerry sits down with Jonathan Berry, managing partner at Boyden Gray PLLC, in the next episode of our miniseries on a Catholic response to ESG. Join us for a discussion ranging from subsidiarity to diversity: we cover the historical roots of ESG & DEI ideology, the 'agency problem' and how ESG casts light on it, and the way that ESG often mirrors (and perverts) religious ways of th...
Impact Investing, Embracing AI, & Combating Trafficking in the Hotel Industry 16.04.2025 30:00
In Ep. 102, Isaac from Bowyer Research sits down with Wade Myers, general partner at Eagle Venture Fund, and John de la Chapelle, COO at TruePathVision. Join us for a fantastic discussion on how Eagle is changing the game on impact investing, how TruePathVision is combating human trafficking in the hotel industry, and why Christians should embrace the growth of AI. Eagle Venture Fund: https...
Starbucks Ditched Straws In the Name of "Sustainability." The Opposite Happened. 03.04.2025 23:38
Do sustainability initiatives actually fix the problems they claim to solve? In Ep. 101, Isaac Willour from Bowyer Research sits down with Christian Britschgi of Reason Magazine to discuss how Starbucks' 2018 decision to nix plastic straws in the name of 'sustainability' ended up being far more complicated than anticipated, and what corporate activists often miss in their crusades against plastic...
ESG and DEI vs. Virtue 27.03.2025 43:11
In Ep. 100, Jerry sits down with Dr. Andrew Abela, dean of the Busch School of Business at the Catholic University of America, for a discussion on how cardinal virtues drive good business and how businesses can cultivate true virtue in employees. Jerry & Dean Abela also discuss stewardship (and how ESG is not the answer), and how concepts like private property rights are indispensable to a fre...
The World's Biggest Gaming Companies Enable Child Grooming. This AI Start-Up Is Working to Change That. 24.03.2025 30:24
In Ep. 99, Isaac Willour from Bowyer Research speaks with David Everitt, CEO of GameSafe, an AI start-up combating the way predators groom children via online gaming portals. From Microsoft to Roblox, online gaming is a hotbed for child abuse - and the private sector is working hard to generate solutions like GameSafe. NOTE: This episode contains descriptions of online child predation. Check out G...
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