Sumo Logic
Masters of Data
Your new favorite podcast for all things security and industry trends. Brought to you by Sumo Logic, each episode features no B.S. real talk with experts who’ve been in the trenches, helping you navigate complex tech decisions, avoid costly mistakes, and stay one step ahead.
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Episodes
Governing AI in the age of agentic systems and Model Context Protocol Video 06.01.2026 25:13
On this episode of Masters of Data, we unpack David's new white paper on AI governance for agentic systems. He explains model context protocol (MCP) as "APIs for agents", how AI systems talk and execute tasks. The catch? Autonomous agents are insider threats that move fast and cause serious damage. David introduces the Model Control Plane (MoCop), a twelve-pillar framework designed to prevent your...
How to bootstrap your AppSec program Video 16.12.2025 28:35
On this episode of Masters of Data, Adam sits down with Zoe Hawkins and David Girvin to talk AppSec programs that don't suck. David's hot take from his 1Password and Red Canary days? AppSec is a people problem, not a tooling problem—stop being the person devs dodge at standup. We cover the essentials: build relationships first, threat model based on actual business risk (not your anxiety), and dit...
re:Invent Recap Video 09.12.2025 33:01
In this episode of Masters of Data, we're breaking down AWS re:Invent 2025 through David's eyes (and probably a few cups of conference coffee). We dive into the massive crowds, killer customer conversations, and product demos that actually worked, because we're all about building real tech, not smoke-and-mirrors clickbait. David geeks out over Mobot, our AI tool that's making workflows smoother (n...
re:Invent FOMO? Dojo AI demo Video 01.12.2025 19:09
Not heading to re:Invent this week? Don't worry—we've got you covered. In this episode, we welcome Architect Solutions Engineer, Jake Lee, to preview the exciting new Sumo Logic tools we are showcasing in Vegas. Our new SOC analyst agent acts as an AI partner that instantly assesses incident severity and recommends next steps—no more drowning in alerts. The MCP server breaks down barriers by letti...
AI has a memory problem, just like you do Video 18.11.2025 31:40
In this episode of Masters of Data, we dive into how AI learns, examining both how we teach it and what it derives from human performance, as well as why context plays a crucial role in AI interactions. We break down five key components of AI training and talk about why we should view AI as a tool under human control rather than an autonomous entity. We explore the challenge of maintaining context...
The truth about how security vendors get evaluated Video 04.11.2025 28:46
In this episode of Masters of Data, we welcome Melissa Beck, VP of Corporate Marketing at Sumo Logic, to discuss the key differences between analyst reports. We talk about why effective communication with customers matters and how AI is evolving to enhance analyst evaluations. We also examine how analysts provide valuable market insights, acknowledging that subjectivity plays a role in product eva...
Beginner's guide to security tools Video 21.10.2025 46:21
In this episode, we run through our beginner's guide to security tools, emphasizing the importance of people, processes, and technology. We chat about the NIST framework as a foundational resource for building security programs, highlighting key steps such as identifying and managing risks. We also discuss basic tools like password managers and multifactor authentication as essential for enhancing...
Security IS observability: Prove us wrong Video 14.10.2025 33:09
In this episode, we discuss the critical intersection of security and observability within organizations. We highlight the often contentious relationship between security analysts and SREs, emphasizing the importance of fostering a collaborative culture to effectively address incidents. All teams should focus on solutions rather than blame, as user experience is affected by both security and infra...
Everyone is winging it: Hope for an AI future Video 07.10.2025 36:05
In this episode, we welcome Naomi Buckwalter, Sr. Director of Product Security at Contrast Security, to chat about the evolving landscape of security threats and the dual role of AI in both facilitating and combating these challenges. We explore the increasing sophistication of modern phishing attacks and discuss how security teams must rapidly adapt to stay ahead of emerging threats. We debate th...
Cut the AI-washing: What AI really needs to succeed Video 30.09.2025 34:01
In this episode, we dive into the murky waters of AI-washing, where companies transform perfectly ordinary software into "revolutionary AI solutions" with little more than creative marketing copy. We'll give you the tools on how to separate genuine AI innovation from elaborate digital smoke and mirrors. We also tackle the very real headache of cramming shiny new AI tools into legacy systems that w...
So you think you need an agent Video 23.09.2025 29:18
In this episode of Masters of Data, the hosts delve into the world of AI agents, explaining their functionality and significance. Unlike simple chatbots, agents can make decisions and perform actions, acting as executive assistants to enhance personal productivity. The discussion highlights the importance of security, collaboration, and the need for human oversight in AI development. As the landsc...
AI in the SOC Video 16.09.2025 45:27
In this episode, we explore how AI is transforming security operations centers (SOCs) from basic log-watching teams into sophisticated threat-hunting command centers drowning in data. AI excels at processing security alerts faster than any human, but the challenge lies in balancing our growing dependence on algorithmic assistance with the irreplaceable value of human intuition in outsmarting creat...
How to defend your budget Video 09.09.2025 33:58
Ever tried explaining to a CFO why you need millions for something that might happen? In this episode, we dive into the delicate dance between security teams and finance departments – a partnership that's part tango, part negotiation, and entirely essential. We explore the strategic questions that actually move budget needles: What's our customer risk tolerance? How quickly can we respond when thi...
A case of AI mad cow Video 02.09.2025 29:59
What happens when artificial intelligence starts eating its own algorithmic tail? In this episode, we dive into the surprisingly real phenomenon of "AI mad cow" where machine learning models begin cannibalizing their own outputs in an endless feedback loop of synthetic content. Join us as we unpack why this isn't just a quirky tech curiosity, but a genuine threat to AI reliability and human trust....
SOAR Loser: Does the O in SOAR stand for obsolete? Video 26.08.2025 21:21
SOAR might sound like a superhero for security teams, but is it actually flying too close to the sun? In this episode, Adam and David unpack why security orchestration, automation, and response have been helpful… but might be headed for retirement, thanks to AI shaking up the game. They also dig into the headaches of managing clunky SOAR systems and why it’s time to rethink workflows and case mana...
Security haven or horror story: from SIEMs to lakes to lakehouses Video 19.08.2025 20:37
Between SIEMs, data lakes, and data lakehouses, the buzzwords alone could fill a glossary. In this episode, Adam and David break down the real differences between data lakes and SIEM systems and why effectively managing all that data is crucial for staying visible and secure. They also dive into how AI is shaking up the game and why picking the right tools can mean the difference between being ove...
Survivor cyber edition – outwit, outplay, out-patch Video 12.08.2025 25:40
Survival tools aren’t just for doomsday preppers; they’re now a must-have for every business trying to stay afloat in the choppy waters of modern security. Ignore them, and you could end up like the 158-year-old shipping company that got sunk by ransomware. In this episode, Adam and David explain why having security tools isn’t enough if they’re misconfigured, why execs need to steer the culture f...
Stop writing dumb AI security policies: use threat models, not fear Video 05.08.2025 30:29
AI policy is not a yes/no question. Security isn’t here to be the morality police. Our job is to enable the business safely. Join security experts Adam White and David Girvin as they chat about the importance of using threat models, a simple framework, and five policy areas you are probably ignoring.
CISOs hate their security tools Video 28.07.2025 27:43
Sumo Logic’s 2025 Security Operations Insights report surveyed 500 IT and security leaders from enterprise organizations to uncover what’s really happening inside today’s SOCs. Join security experts Adam White, David Girvin, and Zoe Hawkins as they break down the top findings from the report and shed light on what every analyst and CISO has felt for years: the system needs a reset. Subscribe to th...
Hacked together: fast, safe prototyping with AI Video 28.07.2025 48:27
Join security experts Adam White, Chas Clawson, and Seth Williams as they explore how AI-first development is reshaping the way cybersecurity teams build, test, and deploy solutions. Traditional development cycles often leave critical ideas trapped in backlogs, but with Gen-AI and language models, security teams can now move from concept to prototype in hours, not months. Subscribe to the podcast:...
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