Joe Saunders, CPP

Managing Violence Podcast with Joe Saunders

Since 2018, the Managing Violence Podcast has been the go-to location for unfiltered, intelligent conversations with the world’s leading experts in violence prevention, threat assessment, self-protection and protective security. Hosted by Joe Saunders, a seasoned violence prevention professional and protective security expert, this podcast dives deep into real-world insights from criminology, psychology, BTAM, law enforcement, combative arts and security professionals. Managing Violence is proudly #ForTheProtectors

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Joe Saunders, CPP

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May 23, 2025

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Episodes

MVP93: Mark Hatmaker on Western Martial Arts and Rough‘n‘Tumble 03.08.2021

Mark Hatmaker is a legend of the self-protection and martial arts world, and it was a great pleasure to listen to him speak about western martial arts, boxing, wrestling and rough'n'tumble. Support Mark's websites here: https://www.extremeselfprotection.com/ https://indigenousability.blogspot.com/   This is the last episode of the Managing Violence Podcast for a little while as I focus energies on...

MVP92: Dr Tammy Yard-McCracken - #500Rising for Women‘s Self Protection 14.07.2021

Dr Tammy Yard-McCracken has  25+ years as a therapist working with survivors of violence, anxiety and PTSD. Wanting to do more to prevent trauma and build opportunity for resilience, Tammy became an instructor in Krav Maga and started a journey into self-protection training. Today she is the found of #500Rising - an initiative seeking to equip and empower women to lead other women in self-protecti...

MVP91: The Ethics of Martial Arts Marketing with Ron Amram 08.07.2021

In this episode I'm joined by good friend, martial artist, business consultant and academy owner, Ron Amram. We chat about the common pitfalls of marketing and reaching students, how easy it can be to compromise our ethics, and how the strategies that are used by predators and conmen are the same strategies we use to get their victims into training!  Check it out and leave a review if you like the...

MVP90: Dr James S. Cawood 20.06.2021

Dr. Cawood is President of Factor One which is a California based corporation specializing in threat assessment and management, violence risk assessment, behavioral analysis, security consulting, and investigations. Dr. Cawood has worked in the field for more than 30 years. He has successfully assessed and managed over 5000 violence related cases for federal and state government agencies, universi...

MVP89: Drone Warfare with Lt. Col. Wayne Phelps 10.06.2021

On this episode we chat drone warfare and the psychological cost of killing remotely with retired Lt. Col. Wayne Phelps.   *** Support our Partners: FujiSports (Americas): www.fujisports.com FujiSports (Australia): https://www.fujisports.com.au/?ref=mvp Enter discount code MVP10 for 10% off your order (excludes mats, cages and custom gear) ***   Make sure you check out this episode on our website:...

MVP88: Situational Awareness with Dr Gav Schneider 27.05.2021

On this episode I am joined by my own boss, sensei, mentor and all around violence expert Dr Gav Schneider. Gav is a 7th degree black belt in krav maga and jujitsu, as well as holding a PhD in criminology specialising in use of force decision making. He is an experienced security professional, cutting his teeth protecting dignitaries in his native South Africa before moving to Australia. He is now...

MVP87: Lessons from Celebrity Protection with Todd Fox 14.05.2021

Todd Fox is the Founder & Managing Director of the Close Protection Corps which provides protective services to celebrities, executives, diplomats, and NGOs. To date the company has succesfully operated in 147 countries. Todd is a former Marine, Law Enforcement Officer, Professional Fighter and Author. His most recent book, Protection for & from Humanity, is focused on providing protective systems...

MVP86: Security Industry Defensive Tactics with Nick Wyborn 07.05.2021

Nick Wyborn is a defensive tactics instructor and security professional with a combined 16 years security and law enforcement experience across multiple Government agencies. As an Operational Safety Instructor in the NSW Police Force, Nick was one of the youngest members of the WTTU (Weapons & Tactics Training Unit), a specialist unit within the NSW Police Academy in Goulburn. He is a Police & Civ...

MVP85: A Scientific Approach to Reality Based Training with Jeff Quail 29.04.2021

Jeff Quail, MSc has a Masters degree in Applied Psychology from the University of Liverpool. Prior to becoming the CEO of Setcan Corporation, Jeff served as a law enforcement helicopter pilot in Canada. Jeff is responsible for the creation of the Shocknife, StressVest, Neck Check, SimVoice and numerous other RBT products. Jeff is a court declared expert in officer safety training and tactics.   He...

MVP84: Mark Mireles - LAPD veteran, 3 x Medal of Valor recipient 23.04.2021

Mark's career reads like a 1980's movie, starting off in the Marine Corps serving in the infantry as a rifleman to one of the most respected police officers and martial artists in Los Angeles. He's also the author of several books and articles for magazines for Black Belt back in the day. He retired from the LAPD three years ago after three decades of sustained violence and hunting the worst of th...

MVP83: Asphalt Anthropology with Beverly Baker 30.03.2021

Asphalt Anthropology was developed by urban explorer and self-defense instructor, Beverly Baker. The goal of Asphalt is to provide skills and counter fear so that people can navigate dense, public spaces with more freedom, joy and boldness.   A student and observer of violence dynamics, Beverly began her education as a girl with wanderlust undeterred by tales of the boogeyman. She has dodged peril...

MVP82: Staying ALIVE with Michael Julian 23.03.2021

Michael Julian is the creator the A.L.I.V.E. Active Shooter Survival Training Program and CEO/President of MPS Security & Protection, providing corporate executive protection, threat and risk mitigation, and security.

MVP81: The Approach with Eddie Quinn 17.03.2021

Eddie Quinn is a UK-based martial arts instructor across multiple disciplines, but most well known in the Silat, Filipino Martial Arts and Muay Thai communities as well for his groundbreaking self-protection system, The Apprach. In this interview I chat to Eddie about the near-death experience of being stabbed at 18 years of age and how that led him to the martial arts to overcome his fears and le...

MVP80: Fight Like Your Grandad - Shanghai School of Streetfighting with Tommy Joe Moore 10.03.2021

Tommy Joe Moore returns to the podcast to talk Fairbairn and Sykes, WW2 combatives, the evolution of western martial arts, and his new book The Shanghai School of Streetfighting. Support our Partners: FujiSports (Americas): www.fujisports.com FujiSports (Australia): https://www.fujisports.com.au/?ref=mvp Enter discount code MVP10 for 10% off your order (excludes mats, cages and custom gear) Make s...

Lee Morrison Pt 2: Instructor Development and the Path to the Peaceful Warrior 02.03.2021

In part two of my recent interview with Lee Morrison, we talk about his approach to instructor development and his new evolution "the Path to the Peaceful Warrior." *** Grab Joe's book Neon Jungle: A Bouncer's True Tales of Lessons, Laughs and Lacerations at this link: https://geni.us/neonjungle Make sure you check out this episode on our website: www.violencepod.com LISTEN ON APPLE PODCASTS: http...

Lee Morrison Pt 1: Becoming a Tier 1 Civilian 25.02.2021

Lee Morrison is the founder of Urban Combatives, a legend of the self-protection industry, and someone Geoff Thompson refers to as a "self-protection God." Lee returns to the podcast in this multi-part interview. In Part 1 we discuss Lee's Tier 1 Civilian curriculum, preparing for worst-case scenario sudden violence, and how you can be useful in times of crisis. ** Our book of the week this week i...

Trauma, Recovery, Revenge? Interview with Psychotherapist Ellis Amdur 17.02.2021

Ellis Amdur has worked in the field of crisis intervention since 1989. He has developed a range of training and consultation services, as well as a unique style of assessment and psychotherapy. These are based on a combination of phenomenological psychology and the underlying philosophical premises of classical Japanese martial traditions. Ellis’s professional philosophy can best be summed up in t...

Scenario Training: Riots, interrogations, courtrooms and more with Duncan Andrews 10.02.2021

Duncan Andrews runs arguably the world's finest and most comprehensive scenario-training programmes for self-protection enthusiasts. Everything from live situational awareness training, to combative application, then interrogation for government trained interrogators and a mock trial with a real barrister! You can't get more real than this without risk to your freedom. A former riot police officer...

Ancient Wisdom, Modern Application with Lawrence Kane 04.02.2021

Lawrence Kane is a prolific martial arts author with 20 books to his credit including titles on how to teach martial arts, how to survive real violence and the finer points of karate. In his most recent book, he has teamed up with Kris Wylder to dissect the classic Art of War by Sun Tzu and provide a modern commentary and dissection of each of line of the immortal general's work. Pick up a copy of...

From selling drugs to the Hall of Fame - Willie Johnson‘s story of redemption through martial arts 26.01.2021

Willie "the Bam" Johnson is a Black Belt Magazine Hall of Fame martial artist, a 7th degree black belt in karate and a 5th degree black belt in Wushu Kung Fu. However, his story started very differently. Born in a poor neighbourhood to a disabled mother, Willie spent time between tournaments selling drugs and running the street. A pivotal moment while incarcerated turned his life around and he's s...

Debi Steven - Gender Based Violence 20.01.2021

My guest on episode 73 is Director of Actions Breaks Silence, Debi Steven. Debi is an experienced martial artist and martial business-woman with a passion for ending gender-based violence. She runs the amazing not-for-profit to equip women and girls with self-protection skills in Africa and India, as well as teaching boys and young men how to develop ”Hero Empathy” and to be an active bystander.

Mary Stevens - Protecting the Most Vulnerable Women in the World 13.01.2021

"These girls live in the worst place in the world to be female."   My guest on Episode 72 of the Managing Violence Podcast is Mary Stevens from the UK. Mary began karate in 2003 at the late age of 31. Her son was being bullied so she enrolled him and then took the chance to begin herself. She went on to become obsessed with the study of self-protection (separate from karate) and founded her own do...

71: LIVE with Richard Dimitri talking about Bruce Lee, Jeet Kune Do and personal evolution 11.12.2020

In this interview, Rich and I dissect and react to Bruce Lee's classic 1971 article "Liberate Yourself From Classical Karate" which was his JKD manifesto. We discuss Bruce's immense impact on both our lives and the martial arts world as a whole, and the importance of growth and evolution in individuals and systems. Make sure you check out this episode on our website: www.violencepod.com    LISTEN ...

Lessons Learned from Two Years of Conversations with Leading Minds in Violence 19.11.2020

In this special two-year anniversary episode, I break down the 21 key lessons I have taken from over 150 hours of conversation with the world‘s leading experts in self-protection and violence management.

Randy King on Self-Defense for Regular People LIVE INTERVIEW! 10.11.2020

In this LIVE conversation with Randy King, we chat about what regular people need to know to keep safe, how Randy‘s professional focus has shifted in this direction, and how we need to educate our communities about what‘s truly important when it comes to staying safe from conflict and violence.

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