Babl AI, Jeffery Recker, Shea Brown
Lunchtime BABLing with Dr. Shea Brown
Presented by Babl AI, this podcast discusses all issues related to algorithmic bias, algorithmic auditing, algorithmic governance, and the ethics of artificial intelligence and autonomous systems.
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Mar 23, 2026
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Episodes
023. AI Auditing with Jiahao Chen 26.04.2023 45:07
We welcomed back AI auditor and consultant Jiahao Chen to discuss all things responsible AI! Check out Jiahao at: https://responsibleai.tech/ Check out the babl.ai website for more stuff on AI Governance and Responsible AI!
022. Final Rules for NYC Local Law 21.04.2023 44:45
In this episode Shea reviews the new rules for NYC's Local Law No. 144, which requires bias audits of automated employment decision tools. The date for enforcement has been pushed back to July 5th, 2023 to give time for companies to seek independent auditors (which is still a requirement). Sign up for our new "AI & Algorithm Auditor Certification Program" starting May 8th! https://courses.babl.ai/...
021. Large Language Models, Open Letter Moratorium on AI, NIST's AI Risk Management Framework, and Algorithmic Bias Lab 02.04.2023 54:03
This week on Lunchtime BABLing, we discuss: 1: The power, hype, and dangers of large language models like ChatGPT. 2: The recent open letter asking for a moratorium on AI research. 3: In context learning of large language models the problems for auditing. 4: NIST's AI Risk Management Framework and its influence on public policy like California's ASSEMBLY BILL NO. 331. 5: Updates on The Algorithmic...
020. AI Governance Report & Auditor Training 30.03.2023 58:14
This week we discuss our recent report "The Current State of AI Governance", which is the culmination of a year-long research project looking into the effectiveness of AI governance controls. Full report here: https://babl.ai/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/AI-Governance-Report.pdf We also discuss our new training program, the "AI & Algorithm Auditor Certificate Program", which starts in May 2023. This...
019. Interrogating Large Language Models with Jiahao Chen 20.03.2023 57:13
On this week's Lunchtime BABLing (#19) we talk with Jiahao Chen; data scientist, researcher, and founder of Responsible Artificial Intelligence LLC. We discuss the evolving debate around large language models (LLMs) and their derivatives (ChatGPT, Bard, Bing AI Chatbot, etc.), including: 1: Do systems like ChatGPT reason? 2: How do businesses know whether LLMs are useful (and safe) for them to use...
018. The 5 Skills you NEED for AI Auditing 15.03.2023 54:17
You need way more than "five skills" to be an AI auditor, but there are five areas of study that auditors need basic competency in if they want to do the kinds of audits that BABL AI performs. This is part of our weekly webinar/podcast that went very long so we've cut out a lot of the Q&A, which covered a lot of questions that we'll address in future videos, like: What kind of training do I need t...
017. Criteria-Based Bias Audit 05.03.2023 1:05:25
On this week's Lunchtime BABLing, Shea goes over the difference between a direct engagement audit vs. an attestation engagement audit and give examples from our criteria-based attestation audit for NYC Local Law No. 144. Check out the babl.ai website for more stuff on AI Governance and Responsible AI!
016. Breaking into AI Ethics (Part 2) 26.02.2023 46:20
In this Q&A session, Shea talks about strategies for applying the skills you already have to the emerging field of AI ethics, governance, and policy consulting? This is a follow-up to our first webinar on the topic. Questions include: 1. Do I need an advanced degree to work in responsible AI? 2. How do I know what topics to focus on? 3. Do I need programming skills to work in responsible AI? 4. Wh...
015. AI Risk Management Standards 19.02.2023 52:58
In this episode of Lunchtime BABLing, we discuss the emergence of new standards for AI Risk Management, as well as regulatory requirements involving AI risk management, including: 1: NIST AI Risk Management Framework 2: ISO/IEC 23894:2023 - Information technology — Artificial intelligence — Guidance on risk management 3: Colorados SB21-169 - Protecting Consumers from Unfair Discrimination in Insur...
014. The Use and Regulation of AI in Hiring with Dr. Frida Polli 12.02.2023 43:01
Today on Lunchtime BABLing, Shea talks with the Chief Data Science Officer at Harver, Dr. Frida Polli. Prior to being at Harver, Frida was the founder and CEO of pymetrics; we talk about: ✅ How AI is being used in hiring, ✅ What it takes to use it responsibly, ✅ Her own journey through this space, and ✅ Reflections on upcoming regulations, including the recent New York City Local Law 144 and t...
013. Why Algorithm Auditing Needs Standards 05.02.2023 49:50
Today on Lunchtime BABLing, Shea talks with the Executive Director of the non-profit ForHumanity, Ryan Carrier, FHCA. Ryan discusses: ✅ What role ForHumanity plays in the AI & Algorithm Auditing ecosystem ✅ Recent laws and activities that are relevant to AI auditing, including the DSA, NYC Bias Audit Law (Local Law 144), the EU AI Act, EEOC guidelines, and more ✅ Ways for people to get involved...
012. What's in Store for AI Auditing in 2023? 29.01.2023 42:39
Today on Lunchtime BABLing, Shea reflects on recent meetings, events, and announcements, including: ✅ Public hearing for NYC Local Law No. 144 ✅ European Commission Workshop on auditing for the DSA ✅ New AI laws and guidelines (e.g. NIST AI RMF, NJ, and NY laws) Shea follows it up with his thoughts on the training needed for AI auditing, and why 2023 is when AI and Algorithm Auditing goes mains...
011. AI Audit & Assurance 22.01.2023 45:12
On this episode of Lunchtime BABLing, Shea talks about AI Audit & Assurance, and where it fits into the emerging regulatory landscape. ✅ What laws, regulations, and guidelines are driving the need for AI audit and assurance? ✅ What the ecosystem looks like, and where I think it's going (he might mention your company here)? ✅ What is different about algorithm auditing as compared to other types...
010. Breaking into AI Ethics Consulting 15.01.2023 39:00
How can you apply the skills you already have to the emerging field of AI ethics, governance, and policy consulting? In this edition of Lunchtime BALBing, Shea Brown talks about his experience and thoughts on finding your unique niche in the industry. Check out the babl.ai website for more stuff on AI Governance and Responsible AI!
009. The Future of AI Regulation in the US & Europe with Merve Hickok 08.01.2023 56:23
On this week's Lunchtime BABLing, we're talking with Merve Hickok, a leading voice in AI policy and regulation. We discuss the future of AI regulation, especially the EU AI Act. Topics include: 1: How can regulations best protect fundamental rights? 2: What will regulations require of companies and governments? 3: Why are responsible AI practices crucial for businesses? 4: What can companies do no...
008. New York City’s Automated Employment Decision Tool (AEDT) law - December 2022 Update 01.01.2023 46:33
Last week the latest updates to the New York City’s Bias Audit Law for Automated Employment Decision Tool (AEDT), also known as NYC Local Law 144, were released. Join this weeks episode of Lunchtime BABLing with BABL AI CEO, Dr. Shea Brown, as he breaks down these latest changes to the NYC Bias Audit Law. Check out the babl.ai website for more stuff on AI Governance and Responsible AI!
007. A conversation exploring the socio-technical side of AI Ethics with special guest Borhane Blili-Hamelin 11.12.2022 49:02
In today's episode of Lunchtime BABLing, Shea Brown and invites Borhane Blili-Hamelin, PhD to discuss some surprising parallels between the challenge of putting AI ethics into practice in industry versus research settings! Check out the babl.ai website for more stuff on AI Governance and Responsible AI!
006. Process Audit for Disparate Impact Testing 18.11.2022 40:47
In this weeks episode, BABL AI’s CEO Shea Brown discusses what a process audit is, and how it can be used to verify disparate impact testing conducted by employers and vendors. New York City’s Local Law 144 requires independent bias audits for automated employment decision tools (AEDT) used to substantially assist or replace decisions in hiring or promotion. The law comes into effect on Jan 1, 202...
005. Algorithmic Auditing International Conference by Eticas 13.11.2022 21:20
This week CEO Dr. Shea Brown reflects on his time at the Algorithmic Auditing International Conference by Eticas. Check out the babl.ai website for more stuff on AI Governance and Responsible AI!
004. Ethical Risk & Impact Assessments for AI Systems 04.11.2022 32:06
A number of forthcoming laws and regulations that will govern the use and development of AI will require mandatory risk or impact assessments. This week BABL AI’s CEO Shea Brown discusses what an ethical risk assessment is, and how your organization can implement them today. Check out the babl.ai website for more stuff on AI Governance and Responsible AI!
003. What is an Algorithmic Bias Audit? 27.10.2022 38:42
New York City’s Local Law 144 requires independent bias audits for automated employment decision tools (AEDT) used to substantially assist or replace decisions in hiring or promotion. Despite the law coming into effect on Jan 1, 2023, several aspects of the bias audit have still to be clarified. In our second weekly mini-webinar series, BABL AI’s CEO Shea Brown discusses what an algorithmic bias a...
002. NYC Algorithm Hiring Law - Update 20.10.2022 41:24
New York City’s Local Law 144 requires independent bias audits for automated employment decision tools (AEDT) used to substantially assist or replace decisions in hiring or promotion. Despite the law coming into effect on Jan 1, 2023, several aspects of the bias audit have still to be clarified. This week we’re discussing the amendments to the upcoming NYC hiring law and what they might entail for...
001. Understanding the NYC Algorithm Hiring Law 10.09.2022 17:41
The Algorithmic Bias Podcast, presented by Babl AI, covers everything related to algorithmic bias, auditing, governance, ethics and more. You can find a new episode uploaded every week on all major platforms, as well as a video recordings on the Babl AI YouTube channel. Please follow us on social media to stay up to date with new episode. Babl AI is a leading boutique consultancy that focuses on...
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