Listen, Here's the Thing

We’re bringing this one back because it’s just that good. In this episode, Katie and Meko sit down with their hilarious (and brutally honest) friend, Angeliquea Passaglia—author of Here Comes Menopause—to talk all things midlife, hormones, and not losing your damn mind in the process. From hot flashes to weight gain to testosterone pellets (yes, really), nothing is off-limits. Angeliquea dishes on...

This week, we're getting a little reflective (but still keeping it real) as we dive into the book Strong Fathers, Strong Daughters . From confidence to connection, we break down how our dads shaped the way we love, lead, and parent.  Expect bold opinions, a few emotional moments, and of course—our signature humor. Whether your dad was your rock or your wild card, this episode is a reminder of...

In this episode, Katie and Meko dive deep into the evolving world of female friendships after 40. From long-distance besties to navigating shifting social circles, we're unpacking what it really means to stay connected when life is full of career changes, empty nests, and husbands who just don’t get the group chat.  Pour the wine, text your group chat, and let’s talk friendship over 40. &nbsp...

Katie’s back from CMA Fest, they are both trying to survive grad party season, and now they are unpacking everything women over 40 are really thinking about. From weight loss and supplements, meal planning fatigue, to the wild truth behind microdosing retreats (9 Perfect Strangers, anyone?)—we’ve got opinions.  Katie and Meko also talk about empty nesting, marriage in midlife, starting over a...

This week, Katie’s packing her carry on (can’t believe she is not checking a bag) for CMA Fest (even though she has zero idea what she’s doing there) and racing back just in time for her daughter’s grad party. Meko just got back from Ohio where she was celebrating a friend’s daughter’s graduation, and suddenly realizing… we’ve come a long way since our 30s.  From career shifts to body changes...

This week, we kick things off with graduation season recap,the caps, gowns, questionable venue, and the emotional rollercoaster of realizing your baby is really leaving the nest. Katie’s still spiraling about her soon-to-be empty house, while Meko is trying to get her a new hobby and travel itinerary.   They  give their hot takes on Sirens on Netflix (Kevin Bacon bringing it) and fi...

This week, Katie and Meko pour the wine and unpack all the feels around graduation season. With kids heading off into new chapters (and one adorable guest appearance from Meko’s daughter Evie fresh off her elementary school walkthrough), the moms are feeling some kind of way.  They’re asking all the real questions:  Are we emotionally prepared for an empty nest… or just pretending we are...

This week, Katie and Meko welcome their hilarious and dear friend Angeliquea Passaglia, author of Here Comes Menopause —to talk about the change with a lot less shame and a lot more sass. From Aunt Flow (or Aunt Rose?) to hot flashes, weight gain, and testosterone pellets, nothing is off limits.  Angeliquea gets real about what actually helped, what was a total scam, and why she’s over giving...

This week, Katie and Meko go from the first wine pour to tears. After a weekend of senior prom prep and pictures, charity events, and the current vote taking place in town, things take a more heartfelt turn as Meko reads a poem about motherhood that has both ladies crying into their wine glasses.  They might be sharing their birth stories.   They’re also chatting about college kids...

This week, Katie and Meko are pulling back the podcast curtain and introducing the secret sauce behind the scenes, our editor and producer, Kelsey Meyers (aka the person who cuts out the awkward pauses, edits the rants, and still somehow loves us).  We talk all things:  What it’s really like editing Listen, Here’s the Thing   It’s equal parts behind-the-scenes confessions, big laugh...

This week, Katie and Meko talk turkey hunting, Easter, and existential questions about life after the kids move out.   There is also your weekly dose of unimportant news, Blue Origin’s s all-female flight backlash, Bieber looking lost at Coachella and Blake & Justin are back in the news.  And it is not looking good for Blake  New to the podcast, what wine are we drinking? &...

This week, Katie and Meko are coming in hot, or at least lukewarm, because Michigan weather is finally giving a spring vibe, and there’s plenty to catch up on. Meko recaps her East Coast girls' weekend, and Katie’s navigating the land of teenage promposals, senioritis, and grad party prep.  The ladies break down the Coachella drama that has the internet calling it the worst year ever.  R...

After a quick recap of their Mexico travels, Katie and Meko are joined by the genius behind the new wine and cocktail pairing app, Pairable.ai, that’s changing the way we drink and snack. Whether you're a “whatever’s open” kind of gal or someone who needs the perfect sip for your truffle popcorn, this episode has your taste buds covered.  They chat with the app’s creator, Dave Asiala, and CMO...

This week, Katie and Meko are podcasting LIVE from Mexico—with drinks in hand, monkeys in the trees, and chaos (as always) in the background. Between dolphin swims, Katie’s husband losing his phone, and attempting to record while everyone on the resort walks by, they somehow manage to cover everything from family vacations to cold plunging.  They’re breaking down the difference between relaxi...

This week, Katie and Meko are catching up after a weekend of big city adventures and big couch energy. Meko hit the town in Detroit while Katie dove headfirst into a new Netflix series—spoiler: it’s binge-worthy.  But the heart of the episode is all about your inner circle. The ladies dig into what it really means to surround yourself with people who lift you up, know your worth, and cheer yo...

This week, Katie and Meko are recapping the whirlwind that was last week—including a Tony Hinchcliffe comedy night, which was hilarious, offensive, and totally on brand.  Then it’s time for a TV reality check:  Should you be watching Temptation Island, Running Point, or White Lotus (and are we booking a trip to Thailand now or later?)? Plus, they dive into the dark drama of Adolescence,...

Listen, Here’s the thing, this week, Katie and Meko are breaking down all the new shows out there on TV. (Basically, they already wasted their time, should you be wasting yours) From Love Is Blind finale drama to Meghan Markle’s new Netflix show, plus a deep dive into the Ruby Franke scandal ( because WTF?! ). But first, the ladies dive into a little weekend recap, including wine shopping with wha...

This week, Katie and Meko are serving up all the tea, trends, and tips to get you ready for spring! First, Meko recaps her 15th year at Cougarpalooza in Deer Valley (legendary), while Katie breaks down her very simple weekend. Then, it’s celebrity gossip time—the Oscars, Wicked movie hype, and the latest red-carpet moments (ummmmm- worth watching or snooze fest?). They deep-dive into red carpet fa...

This week, Katie and Meko are shaking things up—literally!  They’re joined by their favorite Midland bartender Mitch, who’s mixing up three killer cocktails while spilling all the industry secrets. From what makes a great bartender to bartender red flags, he’s giving the inside scoop on what to order, what not to order, and the drinks every home mixologist should master.  Then, the real...

This week, Katie and Meko are diving into the wild world of con artists and imposters, inspired by the jaw-dropping docuseries Apple Cider Vinegar and Scamanda . But first, a little weekend recap—Meko had a chef’s dinner, Katie spent the weekend at the hockey rink and Bulldog Day, and of course, they have to discuss Ryan Reynolds & Blake Lively and the SNL 50th anniversary special.  Then, it’s...

This week, we are beyond excited to welcome the incredibly talented Jodi Bromley to the pod! She’s turning vintage luxury into stunning, sustainable jewelry, and we’re getting the inside scoop on her creative process, where she discovers designer treasures, and, of course, her serious coat obsession.  Jodi also reminds us of an important fashion rule: Dress for yourself, not for others. So natural...

This week, Katie and Meko are covering everything—from hot yoga struggles to a girls' night in Birmingham, plus all the Grammy moments: killer performances, snubs, and did the right people actually win? And of course, they drop their Super Bowl predictions (because we all know it’s about the halftime show and snacks).  Katie is gearing up for her New York trip, while Meko chats about date night wi...

Hello and Happy Monday! Katie and Meko are shaking things up this week, they’re sipping Champs and attempting fine art (aka painting each other’s portraits) while diving into all things pop culture.  They’re breaking down the Grammys (snubs? Surprises? Or do they not even know who anyone is?), debating if the Chiefs vs. Eagles Super Bowl was rigged , and spilling the latest tea from Midland Compla...

Listen, here’s the thing………     Meko landed from Napa just as Katie took off for Vegas, but nothing stops these two from delivering the off-the-rails, never-fact-checked, completely biased conversations you know and love.     Meko shares the details on her wine-tasting adventures, which somehow ended with a birthday trip to a Korean spa. Meanwhile, Katie—still recovering from a mezcal-fueled eveni...

Meko’s birthday is coming up and Katie is planning a party, and she also has a new snack obsession from her trip to Traverse City! This episode is packed with everything from weekend recaps to the Landman finale, plus a deep dive into breast health (because they’re responsible like that).  Super Dave—Listen, Here’s the Thing’s #1 fan and Katie’s dad—joins Katie and Meko to share his thoughts on th...