Kerry McDonald

LiberatED Podcast

The LiberatED Podcast tells the stories of the entrepreneurial parents and teachers who are creating innovative K-12 learning options across the US and expanding education options for families. This twice-weekly podcast is hosted by Kerry McDonald, a Senior Fellow at the Foundation for Economic Education and leader of the Education Entrepreneurship Lab. A regular contributor at Forbes.com and The 74, Kerry is the bestselling author of Unschooled: Raising Curious, Well-Educated Children Outside the Conventional Classroom (Chicago Review Press, 2019), and the author of the forthcoming book, Joyf...

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Kerry McDonald

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Education

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Latest episode

Jul 7, 2026

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Army veteran, teacher, and microschool founder: Felicia Wright on creating The Learning Outpost in Nevada 02.05.2023

Felicia Wright is a US Army veteran and former teacher in the Nevada public schools who decided to pull her daughter out of kindergarten for homeschooling and eventually launched a microschool called The Learning Outpost in Las Vegas, Nevada. The Learning Outpost now serves 22 kids, including two of Felicia's children, and employs two teachers, in addition to Felicia.   Sign up for Kerry's free, w...

Wildflower Montessori NYC Charter School: A conversation with the teacher-entrepreneurs who launched this South Bronx school 28.04.2023

In the South Bronx, the teachers at the Wildflower New York Charter School are creating a nurturing space for children's intellectual and emotional development. Located in the Morrisania neighborhood, the charter school is a collection of three separate Montessori microschools that priorize child-led learning, including for the more than 30% of their students with identified special needs.  The Wi...

From Foster Kid to Founder: Former public school teacher Mercedes Grant on why at-risk youth should have access to microschools 25.04.2023

Mercedes Grant had a tough childhood and became a public school teacher to help students like her. After teaching in four states, she finally decided that she had to leave the system to create new, learner-focused education options. She is now the founder of Path of Life Learning , a new microschool in Virginia that just opened for fall registration and is already near capacity at over 20 learners...

"It is only beginning." Why Amber Okolo-Ebube thinks we are just at the start of a homeschooling & microschooling wave. 21.04.2023

Amber Okolo-Ebube is a mom of 5 and longtime homeschooling parent in the Dallas/Fort Worth area of Texas who runs Leading Little Arrows , a weekly homeschooling enrichment program focused on nature, art, and STEM subjects. She launched last spring and her program has become so popular that she recently leased a building across the street from the University of Texas at Arlington campus. With 33 st...

One of the first microschools! Ken Danford on creating North Star: Self-Directed Learning for Teens in 1996 18.04.2023

Kenneth Danford is one of the true pioneers in alternative education. In 1996, Ken launched North Star , a self-directed learning center for teen homeschoolers in western Massachusetts which was one of the first such spaces to exist. Prior to launching North Star, Ken was a middle school social studies teacher in public schools and wanted to create a new, non-coercive learning option for young peo...

If you can't find it, build it: Former public school teacher Alycia Wright on creating Cultural Roots Homeschool Cooperative 14.04.2023

Alycia Wright taught middle school in the Virginia public schools for over a decade before becoming a homeschooling mom to her four children. She is the founder of Cultural Roots Homeschool Cooperative , a non-profit with the mission of creating a liberated educational space for children of color in Richmond, Virginia that currently serves over 125 learners. I recently had the chance to meet Alyci...

Kids & Nature: Two homeschool moms created Barefoot University, connecting thousands of kids to nature 11.04.2023

Barefoot University is truly one of the most exciting organizations you'll hear about this year. It is a rapidly expanding network of outdoor education programs that brings families together for weekly nature meetups and theme-based learning activities. Barefoot University was founded in 2019 by our guests today, Madeleine Braden and Amber Brown, who were looking for more ways to connect their kid...

A partnership with parents: Texas microschool founders support individualized learning and family empowerment 07.04.2023

Chrystal and Joshua Bernard are pastors of their local church as well as the cofounders of Braveheart Christian Academy , a microschool in Arlington, Texas and part of the vibrant cluster of microschools and innovative learning models in the greater Dallas/Fort Worth area.   Chrystal is a former high school mathematics teacher in the Texas public schools. She left to run her own CPA firm, which sh...

"We're seeing so much anxiety and it's damaging." Two therapists launch an Acton Academy in New York City to promote learner-driven education 04.04.2023

There is a vibrant and growing hub of education entrepreneurship and alternative learning models in New York City, and our guests today are a part of that. Jacob Greebel and Melissa Sornik, both licensed social workers and experienced therapists, founded Acton Academy Seacliff in 2020 in Seacliff, New York on Long Island, but decided to move their Acton Academy into the heart of Manhattan. In thei...

A Grandmother's Microschool: After teaching in public schools for over 20 years, Dr. Natalie Summerville created a microschool for her grandchildren 31.03.2023

Dr. Natalie Summerville taught for over 20 years in the Virginia public schools before first launching The Grand Magnolia School , a microschool in Richmond, Virginia that her grandchildren and others attend.  Sign up for my free, weekly email newsletter on education trends at fee.org/liberated .

Homeschooling in Brooklyn: Why a former NYC public school teacher created Joyful Learning Academy for homeschoolers 28.03.2023

Today's guest is Yesi Sol, a former New York City public school teacher and founder of The Joyful Learning Academy . Joyful Learning is a learning center for homeschoolers in the DUMBO (down underneath the Manhattan Bridge overpass) area of Brooklyn, New York that also provides after-school enrichment and tutoring services to local learners. I had the chance recently to meet Yesi and visit her bea...

An Alternative Education Pioneer: Jerry Mintz founded the Alternative Education Resource Organization (AERO) in 1989 24.03.2023

Jerry Mintz has been a leading voice in the alternative school movement for over 30 years. In addition to his 17 years as a public and independent alternative school principal and teacher, he has also helped to found more than one hundred public and private alternative schools and organizations. In 1989, he launched the Alternative Education Resource Organization (AERO) and since then has served a...

"It's life and death to students." An interview with Wade Moore, founder of Urban Prep Academy 21.03.2023

Wade Moore runs Urban Preparatory Academy in Wichita, Kansas, a private K-8 school where most of the students attend tuition-free through the state's low-income tax-credit scholarship program. Pastor Moore has been a longtime advocate for expanding education choice programs to enable more children to have access to the best educational fit for them. "It's life and death to students," he says. Urba...

Rural Microschools: Why a former public school teacher created a microschool in her small Kansas town 17.03.2023

In the small town of Abbyville, Kansas, located an hour outside of Wichita with a population of 83 people, lies Re*Wild Family Academy , a microschool run by our guest today, Devan Dellenbach. Devan was a certified elementary school teacher in Kansas public schools for five years before leaving the classroom to be a stay-at-home mom to her two children. Stay-at-home parenthood evolved into homesch...

A Classical Education Available To All: Kurtis Indorf on the expansion of Great Hearts Online National Academy 14.03.2023

One of the high-quality virtual learning platforms that I am especially enthusiastic about is Great Hearts , which is expanding this year into a national online private academy with a Classical education focus.   A network of public charter and tuition-based private schools and microschools, with both brick-and-mortar and virtual offerings, Great Hearts is the largest provider of liberal arts clas...

The Personal & Financial Rewards of Education Entrepreneurship: A former public school teacher explains 10.03.2023

When Emily Williams told her parents that she was leaving her job as a certified public school teacher to launch a microschool, they thought she was crazy. Both longtime public school educators themselves, they couldn't understand why Emily, who taught in Mississippi public schools for more than a decade, would want to give up a good district salary, insurance, and retirement benefits to become an...

Choosing Sudbury Valley & self-directed education: A dad explains why he pulled his kids out of public school 07.03.2023

Self-directed education is a tough concept for many people to grasp. It challenges the ways in which many of us were educated, and the ways many of our children continue to be educated, by flipping the entire idea of education as a top-down model of coercive schooling to a bottom-up model of individual agency and self-determination. My 2019 book, Unschooled: Raising Curious Well-Educated Children...

"The Fringe Is Becoming the Cloth": Becky Elder and Dalena Wallace on homeschooling and microschooling 03.03.2023

For Becky Elder, education entrepreneurship is nothing new. In 1963, her parents founded a private school in Wichita, Kansas. Becky then homeschooled her own children even before the practice was legally recognized. In 1993, she helped to launch Northfield School of the Liberal Arts as a small, classically-oriented school for approximately 50 middle and high school students in Wichita.   Dalena Wa...

Yes, charter schools are innovating: Sean Harrell at Integration Charter Schools in NYC shows us how 28.02.2023

Sean Harrell is the president of Integration Charter Schools (ICS) on Staten Island in New York City. ICS is a collection of four charter schools focused on fully integrating students with special needs (about 40%)and general education students.  Sean has worked as a classroom teacher, assistant principal, principal, and school district administrator for more than a decade. He founded and serves a...

Blocked from Opening a School: Retired Navy officer James Lomax on entrepreneurial barriers 24.02.2023

Despite his MBA and a B.S. degree from the U.S. Naval Academy, as well as a prestigious career as a naval officer and flight test engineer, James Lomax was prohibited from opening a secular private school in the state of Nevada due to occupational licensing regulations. Read more in my latest Forbes article : "Why Can't A Retired U.S. Navy Officer And Engineer Open A Private School In Nevada?"   S...

From Education Professor to Microschool Founder: Dr. Lisa Scott on Creating Art of Words in Brooklyn, NY 21.02.2023

Our guest today is Dr. Lisa Scott, founder of The Art of Words Community School , a small private school in the DUMBO section of Brooklyn, NY. Lisa earned her PhD in Education from Claremont Graduate School and taught classes in the history and philosophy of education at both CUNY-Queens and Hunter College before leaving to launch her microschool in September 2020.  Sign up for Kerry's free, weekl...

A High-Quality, Purpose-Driven Online School: Founder Michael Strong on creating The Socratic Experience 17.02.2023

Today's guest is Michael Strong, a longtime education entrepreneur and innovator and now founder of The Socratic Experience , an online school that emphasizes personalized and purpose-driven education, which I highly recommend. Michael is the author of the 2009 book,  Be the Solution: How Entrepreneurs and Conscious Capitalists Can Solve All the World's Problems , which includes a Foreword by John...

Breaking the School-To-Prison Pipeline, One Microschool At a Time 14.02.2023

Turan Rush grew up in West Virginia on Charleston's West Side and was a star football player at Capitol High School, going to on to play at the collegiate level at Eastern Michigan University. He decided to come back to Charleston after graduating in 2021 to make a positive impact on the youth in his neighborhood. He teamed up with Jeff Biddle, a pastor and mentor to Turan, to open a thriving, spo...

From Portland Public School Teacher to Microschool Founder 10.02.2023

In the summer of 2019, after 15 years of teaching in the Portland, Oregon public school district, Greg Brown resigned to pursue Activate  full-time. During COVID, Activate evolved into a full-time microschool with a dyslexia focus, and it continues to expand today to serve more learners in the Portland area. Sign up for Kerry's free, weekly email newsletter on education trends at fee.org/liberated...

One Year Podcast Anniversary with Bloom Academy cofounders! 07.02.2023

Today marks one year since the launch of this podcast! It has grown so much, with inspiring stories of microschool founders and other education entrepreneurs who are building bottom-up learning models to challenge longstanding, top-down systems. I am thrilled to celebrate today's podcast anniversary with Sarah Tavernetti and Yamila De Leon, cofounders of Bloom Academy , a self-directed microschool...

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