Kerry McDonald
LiberatED Podcast
The LiberatED Podcast tells the stories of the entrepreneurial parents and teachers who are creating innovative K-12 learning options across the US and expanding education options for families. This twice-weekly podcast is hosted by Kerry McDonald, a Senior Fellow at the Foundation for Economic Education and leader of the Education Entrepreneurship Lab. A regular contributor at Forbes.com and The 74, Kerry is the bestselling author of Unschooled: Raising Curious, Well-Educated Children Outside the Conventional Classroom (Chicago Review Press, 2019), and the author of the forthcoming book, Joyf...
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Jul 7, 2026
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Episodes
An Education "Intrapraneur" - Sherrilynn Bair on how to innovate within a public school district 16.01.2024 47:23
Sherrilynn Bair is a certified teacher and school librarian who works for the Snake River Public School District in rural Blackfoot, Idaho. In this episode, she shares her experience with in-system innovation, explaining how she created an entirely new school within her district that focuses on personalized learning and curriculum customization. *** Sign up for Kerry's free, weekly email newslette...
A Christian self-directed learning center in South Carolina: Former public school teacher Ross Hill on becoming a microschool founder 12.01.2024 43:48
Ross Hill has been in education for over 15 years, with most of that time spent working as a high social studies teacher in public schools. He quit his teaching job in 2023 to launch Mariner Learning Collaborative , a self-directed learning center in Florence, South Carolina. Mariner is part of the Liberated Learners network of non-coercive, self-directed learning centers for homeschoolers that wa...
From college administrator to microschool founder: Kristine Fringer founded Symbiosis Learning Center for middle & high school students 09.01.2024 27:07
Kristine Fringer was a college administrator for almost two decades before leaving higher education to launch Symbiosis , a learning center for middle school and high school-age homeschoolers located just outside of Boston, Massachusetts. Kristine opened Symbiosis in the fall of 2019. She currently serves 20 students with both full- and part-time enrollment options. *** Sign up for Kerry's free, w...
"As a 5th grade teacher, by the time children came to me, the light had already gone out." Former public school teacher Sarah Max on becoming a microschool founder 05.01.2024 41:44
Today's episode is special in that I am joined by both a school founder and a parent so we'll hear two interesting perspectives on the draw toward alternative education options. Sarah Max is a former public school teacher who cofounded Acton Invictus in 2021 in Leander, Texas, just outside of Austin. Acton Invictus is part of the global Acton Academy microschool network that was founded in 2009 an...
AI, Technology, & The Future of Learning: Techno-Optimism in 2024 with Founder Tobin Slaven 02.01.2024 45:45
Tobin Slaven is the founder of Acton Academy Fort Lauderdale who was previously on the podcast in fall 2022 ( episode #46 ) to talk about the launch of his microschool. I'm delighted to have Tobin back on the podcast today to kick off 2024 with a conversation about artificial intelligence, technology, techno-optimism, and the future of learning. In addition to leading his microschool, Tobin is als...
A Latino-Centered Lab School in Denver: La Luz founder Kyle Gamba hopes his model influences public schools 29.12.2023 37:35
Kyle Gamba is a former public school teacher and principal who in 2021 launched La Luz , a learner-centered lab school focusing on experiential learning for Latino students in Denver, Colorado. *** Sign up for Kerry's free, weekly email newsletter on education trends at fee.org/liberated .
The Origins of the Wildflower Montessori Microschool Network: Katelyn Shore opened the first Wildflower school in 2014 26.12.2023 28:31
When Katelyn Shore opened the first Wildflower Montessori microschool in Cambridge, Massachusetts in 2014, she hoped it would be the start of something big. The vision, introduced by Sep Kamvar at the MIT Media Lab, was to create an open-source network of intentionally small, storefront, neighborhood Montessori microschools that would offer the tools and technology to enable teacher-entrepreneurs...
How A Homeschool Mom Created A Thriving Urban Microschool: Christina Poole founded City Schoolhouse in Louisville, Kentucky 22.12.2023 38:16
My guest today is Christina Poole, a homeschooling mom of 7 children ages 18 months to 12 years, and cofounder of City Schoolhouse , a low-cost private school in the heart of Louisville, Kentucky. Christina opened City Schoolhouse in early 2017 with 9 students, plus her own 5 children at the time. Today, City Schoolhouse has 45 full-time students, with afterschool programs and vacation camps for l...
Promoting Childhood Play & Independence: Let Grow's Lenore Skenazy on the importance of a play-filled childhood 19.12.2023 50:22
What a pleasure to have Lenore Skenazy on the podcast today to talk about a variety of topics but mostly how to give our children the freedom and responsibility that many of us enjoyed as children, before structure and surveillance came to dominate American childhood. Lenore is the author of the popular book, Free-Range Kids , now in its second edition, and is the co-founder and president of Let G...
"As immigrants, we chase the American Dream." Gaby Narvaez & Andrea Hantman share their entrepreneurial journey as microschool founders 15.12.2023 54:49
Originally from Venezuela, Gaby Narvaez and Andrea Hantman met in the U.S. and launched P.L.A.Y. School Academy (Passion Learning Approach Year-Round), a K-12 microschool in South Florida. *** Sign up for Kerry's free, weekly email newsletter on education trends at fee.org/liberated .
Do you want to start a microschool? Tom Bogle of Microschool Solutions offers tips 12.12.2023 41:30
Tom Bogle is a former public high school teacher turned microschool guide and now cofounder of Microschool Solutions , an organization that helps to activate new microschools across the US and support new founders. *** Sign up for Kerry's free, weekly email newsletter on education trends at fee.org/liberated .
A Teacher Finds Joy & Fulfillment As A Founder: Becky McNichols on creating Rooted Life Academy 08.12.2023 34:23
My guest today is Becky McNichols, founder of Rooted Life Academy , a home-based microschool/homeschool enrichment program in the Kansas City area. Becky taught in public schools for 15 years, including most recently in a Title I public school that served predominantly low-income and migrant students. She grew increasingly drained by her public school teaching job and resigned in the spring of 2...
Meeting Middle Schoolers' Needs: Why former public school teacher Nate Fellman launched his microschool 05.12.2023 37:30
Nathan Fellman was a public middle school teacher and administrator in New Hampshire for nearly 20 years before leaving his job to launch a middle school microschool program in fall 2022. Nate and two of his colleagues from the public school system opened The Harkness House in Nashua, New Hampshire that emphasizes personalized learning for 6th thru 9th graders. Harkness House also offers hybrid ho...
Georgia's Learning Pod Protection Act Helped This Founder...But Do We Need Regulation? 01.12.2023 37:37
Sharon Masinelli is the founder and head of school at St. John the Baptist Hybrid School in Kennesaw, Georgia, outside of Atlanta. Students attend the drop-off program two to three days a week, learning from an assortment of 30 educators, while homeschooling on the remaining days. Sharon launched her hybrid school in 2019 with 47 students. Today, her program has 120 students in kindergarten throug...
Why This Charter School Founder Shifted to Microschooling 28.11.2023 39:42
Jack Johnson Pannell is the Head of School and Founder of Trinity Arch Preparatory School for Boys in Phoenix, Arizona, a microschool that launched this fall to serve boys ages 7 to 14. Prior to launching this new school, Jack was the founder of an all-boys public charter school in Baltimore, Maryland called Baltimore Collegiate. *** Sign up for Kerry's free, weekly email newsletter on education...
Thankful for Entrepreneurs 23.11.2023 3:17
Happy Thanksgiving! A special note of gratitude to all the entrepreneurs out there. You are the true engines of human progress. *** Sign up for Kerry's free, weekly email newsletter on education trends at fee.org/liberated .
A Conversation with Acton Academy Co-Founder Jeff Sandefer 21.11.2023 38:09
It is such an honor to have Jeff Sandefer on the podcast today to talk about his experience as the co-founder, along with his wife Laura, of the fast-growing microschool network, Acton Academy. Jeff and Laura launched the first Acton Academy in Austin, Texas in 2009. Today, there are over 300 Acton Academies worldwide, serving thousands of learners. *** Sign up for Kerry's free, weekly email news...
One of the earliest Acton Academies! Dani Foltz-Smith on her path from Acton parent to founder 17.11.2023 38:34
More than a decade ago, Dani Foltz-Smith sent her two girls to a new school that had recently opened in Austin, Texas. It was the flagship Acton Academy, launched in 2009 by Jeff and Laura Sandefer to prioritize learner-driven education and enable each child to pursue his or her own "hero's journey." Dani's family adored their Acton experience so much that when they needed to move back to Los Ange...
The Rise of Faith-Based Microschools: A year of stunning growth for Refine KC 14.11.2023 40:49
Refine KC is a full-time, faith-based microschool in the Kansas City, Missouri area that launched in August 2022 with 15 K-12 students. Today, it is at capacity with 40 students, 6 teachers, and a waiting list. Three of Refine KC's founders are with us on today's podcast to talk about why their school is so popular. "Church-Based Microschools Are 'Sprouting Everywhere'" (The Lion) *** Sign up for...
First 100 Days of Running a Microschool! Two founders share their startup stories 10.11.2023 53:21
Mercedes Grant and Isis Spann are two founders who launched their microschools this fall in Virginia and South Carolina, respectively. They share their startup experiences, surprises, and challenges, and offer advice to new education entrepreneurs. Mercedes runs Path of Life Learning in Yorktown, VA, and Isis runs A Home for School in Moncks Corner, SC. Both founders participated in the spring 202...
Legal Advocacy for Education Entrepreneurs: Mike Donnelly of the Yes. Every Kid. Foundation talks about entrepreneur support 07.11.2023 34:36
As education across the US transforms from a centralized, top-down system to a diverse, decentralized marketplace responsive to the needs and preferences of learners and families, it can create some challenges for the entrepreneurial parents and teachers who are creating these new, bottom-up education solutions. Joining me on the podcast today is Mike Donnelly, an experienced attorney and vice pre...
"Let Parents Be In Control" - A 17-year public school teacher launched a microschool to meet the needs of learners & families 03.11.2023 36:33
I recently spent time in the greater Kansas City area visiting microschools and learning pods, and talking to founders, and was struck by what I found. All seven of the learning environments I visited were founded within the past three years and all of the founders are former public school teachers who quit and created these alternative programs. They also all expressed greater levels of personal...
Self-Directed Learning in Los Angeles: Why a college philosophy professor became a microschool founder 31.10.2023 44:57
Alexi Burgess is the co-founder of Alcove Learning , a self-directed learning center for teens and tweens in the Boyle Heights neighborhood of Los Angeles. Alcove opened in January 2020 as part of the Liberated Learners network of self-directed learning centers across the U.S. In Los Angeles, A Tiny School Lets Young People Direct Their Own Education (The74) *** Sign up for Kerry's free, weekly e...
Learning At Sudbury Valley School: Alumnus and parent Evan Hughes on self-directed education 27.10.2023 42:17
A common question about unconventional educational models, and especially about self-directed ones that put young people in charge of their own education, is how do kids turn out? To help answer that question I've invited Evan Hughes, who attended the renowned Sudbury Valley School in Framingham, MA for his childhood and adolescence, and now sends his son there as well. Sudbury Valley was founded...
Eliminating the "Because I Said So" in Education: Acton Academy North Broward cofounder Frank Farro on learner-driven education 24.10.2023 33:56
Frank Farro is the cofounder, along with his wife Natalie, of Acton Academy North Broward , in Coral Springs, Florida, which they launched in 2020. Acton Academy is of course the popular, fast-growing global network of learner-driven microschools, now encompassing more than 300 independently owned and operated Acton-affiliated schools. I've had the privilege of highlighting several affiliated Acto...
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