Joel Cesare & Owen Barrett
Less Talk, More Action
The nexus of business, policy, and sustainability is more divided than ever, but Less Talk, More Action is here to cut through the noise. Hosted by clean energy experts Joel Cesare and Owen Barrett, this podcast dives into the front lines of decarbonization, net-zero real estate, and entrepreneurship. Each episode features bold questions, real solutions, and stories from leaders in science, tech, and business who are taking action to make the world a better place. Join us as we move beyond talk and work toward a cleaner, net-zero future.
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Jul 8, 2026
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Episodes
How Millennials Will Finally Afford Homes 14.01.2026 52:43
In this episode of Less Talk, More Action , Joel and Owen welcome sustainability leader Anthony Guerrero to explore the challenges and opportunities in green building and urban housing. Anthony serves as the COO of Mindful MATERIALS and is the Founder of Sustainaprise. The conversation covers converting vacant office buildings into affordable residential spaces, navigating complex building regulat...
Solar's Wild Ride: Triumphs, Scams & 2026 Predictions 23.12.2025 30:31
In this episode of Less Talk, More Action , Joel and Owen welcome reflect on a transformative year in clean energy and real estate, discussing the ups and downs of the solar industry, the effects of policy shifts like the Inflation Reduction Act, and the current landscape for building decarbonization. The conversation highlights the challenges of stalled funding, the need for ambitious yet practic...
Stop Scaring Our Kids and Start Building Their Future 17.12.2025 22:47
In this episode of Less Talk, More Action , it’s a solo episode as Joel challenges conventional climate narratives by exploring why fear-based messaging may backfire and proposing bold alternatives to build real impact. Drawing from recent debates and his own industry experience, he critiques overemphasis on carbon metrics and argues for redirecting climate funding into tangible efforts like affor...
Why AI is Your New Business Superpower in Sustainability 10.12.2025 1:04:24
In this episode of Less Talk, More Action , Joel and Owen are joined by AI and sustainability pioneer Kevin Surace. The conversation dives into how AI is transforming solar energy projects, building efficiency, and the broader challenges of sustainability, from retrofitting icons like the Empire State Building to overcoming market barriers and upfront costs. Listeners will gain key insights on lev...
How to Find a Billion-Dollar Business Idea Nobody Else Sees 03.12.2025 41:39
In this episode of Less Talk, More Action , Ben Christensen, Founder and CEO of Cambium Carbon, joins Joel and Owen to discuss his entrepreneurial journey and how Cambium is redefining waste and climate solutions. The conversation explores innovative business strategies like the “Blue Ocean Strategy,” the company’s impact turning urban wood waste into valuable, sustainable products, and the challe...
Why Energy Efficiency Beats Net Zero (For Now) 26.11.2025 53:17
In this episode of Less Talk, More Action , Joel and Owen welcome Kyle Hendricks, VP and Head of Sustainability at Equity Residential. The conversation explores how Equity Residential has outpaced its energy intensity reduction goals by empowering employees and integrating sustainability into its core business strategy. Key topics include the challenges of achieving measurable results in decarboni...
Can AI Save Sustainability—Or Kill Your Job? 19.11.2025 50:31
In this episode of Less Talk, More Action , Joel and Owen welcome Anneli Tostar, Co-founder and CEO of Tangible, for a candid discussion on revolutionizing the built environment. They dive into Anneli’s entrepreneurial journey, why tackling embodied carbon matters, and how technology, especially AI, can help make construction more efficient and sustainable. The conversation also critiques the obse...
Why Electrifying Your Home Is Easier Than You Think 12.11.2025 48:10
In this episode of Less Talk, More Action , Joel and Owen welcome Shreyas Sudhakar, Founder and CEO of Vayu, about his fascinating journey from rocket science at SpaceX to driving home electrification through heat pump installation in California. The conversation covers the technical and economic benefits of heat pumps, the challenges of market adoption, policy incentives, and the need for quality...
How to Save $250 Million & the Planet (in 4 Steps) 05.11.2025 44:25
In this episode of Less Talk, More Action, Joel and Owen sit down with Norman Crowley, Founder of CoolPlanet, to discuss bold new strategies for industrial decarbonization and the real-world impact of climate entrepreneurship. The conversation covers Norman’s journey from founding tech companies to leading a global sustainability business, future predictions on the evolution of Net Zero and ESG co...
NYC’s Old Buildings: Would You Invest Millions To Fix This Problem? 29.10.2025 49:26
In this episode of Less Talk, More Action , David Goldstein, founder of Hydronic Shell Technologies, joins Joel and Owen to discuss the urgent challenge of decarbonizing existing buildings, particularly old, multi-family structures in New York City. The conversation addresses the technical and economic challenges of retrofitting occupied buildings, innovative solutions featuring exterior facade-in...
From Polluter to Solution: Cement’s New Revolution 22.10.2025 52:48
In this episode of Less Talk, More Action , Miles Haladay, COO of Concrete Transition Capital, joins Joel and Owen to discuss the environmental challenges and opportunities of decarbonizing the concrete industry. The conversation covers the massive global impact of concrete, innovative technologies for low-carbon production, the crucial role of finance and data, and the accelerating influence of A...
The Real Reason Clean Energy Isn't Scaling...Yet 15.10.2025 58:10
In this episode of Less Talk, More Action , Julia Pyper, Vice President of Public Affairs at GoodLeap and host of the Political Climate podcast, joins Joel and Owen to discuss the state of clean energy and sustainability. The conversation covers personal and systemic challenges to making homes more sustainable, the complexity of rebates and incentives, and the role of technology—especially virtual...
Stop Complaining, Start Building 08.10.2025 17:31
In this episode of Less Talk, More Action , Joel Cesare and Owen Barrett dive into the challenges and future direction of the climate movement, questioning whether current efforts are truly effective or in need of a major rebrand. They discuss the disconnect between climate initiatives and everyday concerns, the potential impact of redirecting resources toward issues like affordable housing and re...
Waste Not, Warm Not: Turning Trash into Climate Action 01.10.2025 52:47
In this episode of Less Talk, More Action , Andrew Jones, Founder of Carba, joins Joel and Owen to explore the science, business, and challenges of large-scale carbon removal. The conversation covers the role of biochar in sequestering carbon, the importance of both decarbonization and carbon removal for climate solutions, and the myths and skepticism surrounding the industry. Andrew also shares i...
Asymmetrical Warfare: How Small Actions Can Change Big Systems 24.09.2025 48:09
In this episode of Less Talk, More Action , climate leader and author Auden Schendler joins Joel and Owen to discuss the shortcomings of the current environmental movement and the urgent need for systemic, policy-driven solutions to climate change. The conversation explores why individual and corporate sustainability efforts often fall short, the importance of building powerful movements, and the...
Beyond Climate Doom: Innovation, Storytelling, and Hope in Sustainability 17.09.2025 45:02
In this episode of Less Talk, More Action , award-winning climate tech journalist and entrepreneur Sherrell Dorsey joins Joel to explore how authentic storytelling, innovation, and optimism can drive real progress in sustainability. They discuss the importance of making environmental action accessible and inspiring, the challenges and opportunities in climate tech, and the need for practical, incl...
The Real Estate Revolution: Decarbonization, Data, and Doing Better 10.09.2025 46:19
In this episode of Less Talk, More Action , Joel and Owen welcome Chris Pyke, Chief Innovation Officer at GRESB. Chris discusses the evolution of sustainability reporting in real estate, the challenges of balancing action with transparency, and the future of ESG standards. The conversation also explores the intent behind GRESB, the need to streamline reporting processes, and the importance of tran...
Breaking the Grid: How Innovation is Reshaping Energy 03.09.2025 51:35
In this episode of Less Talk, More Action , Joel and Owen are joined by clean energy leader Jigar Shah to discuss the evolution and future of sustainability, clean tech, and decarbonization. The conversation covers the importance of affordability and execution in clean energy solutions, the challenges and opportunities in distributed energy and grid flexibility, and the need for industry transpare...
Burn It Down to Build It Better: A New Era for ESG and Business 27.08.2025 45:24
In this episode of Less Talk, More Action , Joel and Owen are joined by Raz Godelnik, Associate Professor of Strategic Design and Management at Parsons School of Design and author of "Rethinking Corporate Sustainability in the Era of Climate Crisis." Raz discusses why current ESG and sustainability efforts are falling short. The conversation explores the need to move beyond incremental change and...
Decarbonization Done Right: From Reporting to Real Results 20.08.2025 46:04
In this episode of Less Talk, More Action , Joel and Owen welcome Gus Bartholomew, Co-Founder of Leafr. Gus discusses the pressing need for action over excessive reporting in the sustainability sector. The conversation also explores the pitfalls of audit fatigue, the importance of building lean, impact-focused sustainability teams, and the value of bringing in specialized expertise at the right ti...
Designing a Greener Home: How Quilt is Changing the HVAC Game 13.08.2025 36:19
In this episode of Less Talk, More Action, Joel welcomes Matthew Knoll, Co-founder and CTO of Quilt. Matthew shares Quilt’s mission to accelerate home electrification through innovative, user-friendly heat pump technology. They discuss the shortcomings of traditional HVAC systems, the benefits of ductless mini splits, and how Quilt’s vertically integrated approach improves design, efficiency, and...
National Security Meets Sustainability: A New Corporate Mandate 06.08.2025 47:41
In this episode of Less Talk, More Action, Joel and Owen welcome author and consultant Alex Kruzel to explore the shifting landscape of corporate sustainability. The conversation covers the challenges of effective messaging, the growing influence of regulation and compliance, and the potential for sustainability to align with national security and economic interests. Alex shares insights from her...
Fake vs. Real Net Zero: Cutting Through the Carbon Hype 30.07.2025 28:07
In this episode of Less Talk, More Action , Joel and Owen fly solo as they dive into the evolving landscape of sustainability, discussing Formula 1’s ambitious net zero goals, the debate between real and “fake” net zero, and the growing fatigue around ESG reporting in commercial real estate. They share insights from a recent industry conference, explore the impact of rising energy costs, and consi...
Brewing Solutions: Water Reuse and Climate Innovation 23.07.2025 50:01
In this episode of Less Talk, More Action , Joel and Owen welcome Aaron Tartakovsky, Co-Founder and CEO of Epic Cleantec, exploring innovative water reuse technologies. Aaron shares how his company transforms building wastewater into valuable resources, recycling water for non-drinking purposes, and even creating beer and whiskey from treated water. The conversation delves into the challenges of w...
Designing Tomorrow: Unlocking the Potential of Urban Spaces 16.07.2025 43:30
In this episode of Less Talk, More Action , Joel and Owen welcome James Ball, Director of the Future Cities Initiative at the National Building Museum. The conversation explores the need for a radical reimagining of urban development, moving beyond individual building approaches to a holistic city-level perspective. James challenges current sustainability narratives, emphasizing the importance of...
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