Henna Tolvanen & Nina Toivonen
Legal Design Podcast
Is it possible to design law in the way our everyday commodities and services are designed? What is legal design for? Who are the "legal designers" and what do they do? In this podcast hosts Henna Tolvanen and Nina Toivonen discuss how to make law better for (real) humans with guests representing intriguing backgrounds and knowledge.
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May 22, 2024
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Episodes
Episode 43: What Lego Got to Do with Legal Research, Amanda Perry-Kessaris? 24.05.2022 39:02
In this episode we meet with Amanda Perry-Kessaris, professor of Law at Kent Law School, to discuss what design can do for legal research. As we know, the possibilities of design in the realm of law are almost endless, but can design also change the way we research law and practice academic legal analysis? And if it does, should we be worried that design takes over traditional law? Amanda is known...
Episode 42: Visiting Virtual Courts with Dan Jackson, Molly French and Shikha Silliman Bhattacharjee 11.05.2022 42:52
In this episode we talk about virtual reality in courts and how it can promote access to justice. Having to go to court can be once in a lifetime experience for quite many people. It might be nerve-racking and even scary not knowing what is going to happen at court, especially for self represented litigants. A lot of courts might not even see this problem because for courts and people who work the...
Episode 41: Meaningful Work Makes Happier Lawyers with Frank Martela 27.04.2022 33:15
Doing meaningful work will promote happiness and increase your life satisfaction and doing work you hate will make you miserable. This is obvious, of course, but yet there are many lawyers who stay in jobs that aren't right for them. It is hard to make a change because we have the image of perfectly successful lawyer in our head and that image might not be what we want from our working life. Durin...
Episode 40: Becoming Legal Designers with Aku Nikkola and Christine Inkinen 12.04.2022 46:50
In this episode we meet with legal designers Aku Nikkola and Christine Inkinen from Dot. Legal, a legal design consultancy from Helsinki. Aku and Christine tell us their stories how they decided to pursuit a career a little different from the traditional legal work and how they became legal designers. We talk about their latest venture, the first ever legal design course organized for law de...
Episode 39: Technology Empowered Global Immigration with Octavian Tantu and Karita Niemelä 30.03.2022 36:23
Business opportunities can emerge anywhere in the world and many corporations operate globally. This creates a huge demand for relocation and there are companies who send employees almost daily to different countries. Keeping up with immigration rules and regulations can be a huge task for any HR department and immigration professional, let alone for those who send employees to various different c...
Episode 38: Leading by Love with Mia Koro-Kanerva 16.03.2022 33:50
Just like the legal industry, the real estate management has had a reputation of being far from the real life of actual people. In this episode, we meet with the brilliant Mia Koro-Kanerva, who is the CEO of the Finnish Real Estate Management Federation. Mia is a lawyer by training but for the last twelve years she has been leading people in the real estate management industry with her human-centr...
Episode 37: Paving New Career Paths for Legal Experts with Karol Valencia 02.03.2022 27:45
What makes people rethink their career choices and search for something different? The rapid technological development that makes old ways of working inefficient and pushes people to learn new skills? Maybe. But when talking about lawyers turning legal designers, it can also be about “the inner need for fulfillment of justice”. The use of human-centric, co-creative and interdisciplinary design met...
Episode 36: Becoming a Social Value Agent with Ebru Metin 16.02.2022 35:29
In this episode we discuss creating social value by legal design with Ebru Metin. Ebru tells us how she drives social impact as CEO of her social enterprise Legal Design Turkey and as director of Istanbul Bilgi University Legal Design Lab. We hear how to become a “social value agent” and how legal design can contribute to creating a legal system that gives more than it takes. Ebru has advocated fo...
Episode 35: Value of Legal Design for In-House Counsels with Sarah Ouis 02.02.2022 32:25
We start the season off with the wonderful Sarah Ouis who’s the founder of Law But How? and Legal Design Manager at ContractpodAI. You surely have seen the intriguing and value adding content she creates and shares on social media. With Sarah, we talk about the inspiring career change she made when converting from successful in-house counsel into a thriving legal designer. She tells us what have b...
Episode 34: Making Legal Design Mainstream by Education with Hannele Korhonen 15.12.2021 32:32
During this podcast series, we have discussed a lot about how to make Legal Design mainstream. Our this week's guest, Hannele Korhonen , believes that it can be done with educating people. However, Legal Design is not taught in many law schools yet, but learning happen mostly elsewhere. In this episode, Hannele, the founder and legal designer shares the story and pedagogical philosophy behin...
Episode 33: Tackling the Chaos Cycle of Insurances by Design with Anthony Novaes 08.12.2021 33:21
Many people feel that terms and conditions of insurance contracts aren’t meant to be understood. It’s small print and full of industry specialized jargon, aiming at preventing legal risks, but, on the contrary, actually provoking them. People purchasing insurances that they don’t understand, causes problems on the next phases of the supply chain. All this makes the insurance industry the perfect c...
Episode 32: Demystifying Legal Tech with Colin Levy 01.12.2021 29:27
Legal Tech is one of the popular buzzwords you can’t help hearing when talking about the future of law these days. But what exactly is legal tech? That is what we’re going to cover in this episode. We talk to one of the Legal Tech legends, Colin S. Levy who is Director of Legal and Evangelist for Malbek, a leading CLM company as well as a seasoned lawyer and legal tech speaker. Colin explains how...
Episode 31: Developing the Brazilian Legal System by Design with José Faleiros 24.11.2021 33:57
The Brazilian legal system is facing many challenges and undergoing major changes due to application of new technologies. As we know, law itself changes slowly but legal design can assist in this change and bring out the positive. This week we talk to José Faleiros Jr., a Brazilian lawyer and the co-editor and co-author of the book "Legal Design: Teoria e Prática". José tells about the Brazilian l...
Episode 30: Building a Human Centric Brand with Dinko Kortzanov 17.11.2021 32:50
Legal services are not famous for their human centricity. Quite contrary, legal services have a reputation for being expensive, unpredictable and lacking transparency. Design as a human centric method to enhance user experience would therefore have a lot to offer for legal services. Often lawyers might think that they are client-centric because it says so on their webpage, but how to make sure tha...
Episode 29: Exploring Legal Design Methods and Tools with Angélica Flechas 10.11.2021 34:52
There are many ways design can be practiced, also in the legal context. Many are familiar with the methods and tools highlighted in various service design books, such as making up different user personas and prototyping with legos and cardboard boxes. But what kind of methods and techniques legal designers like to use in their real life design projects? Are there some tools that work particularly...
Episode 28: Do's and Don'ts of Legal Innovation with Marco Imperiale 02.11.2021 35:19
We are living very exceptional times to work as a lawyer. The innovation game is on in the legal industry, and law firms are not excluded from it. New legal roles are created and the dominant players are yet to emerge. Working as today’s lawyer differs greatly from the era of our grandparents, although it might be overwhelming to figure out what still has to change and what can remain. Should law...
Episode 27: Merging Law, Design and Engineering with Lab de Diseño Para la Justicia 27.10.2021 46:42
This week we discuss the role of interdisciplinarity, human emotions and engineering skills in legal design. We hear what lawyers, engineers and designers could learn from each other, and how to combine these three fields of expertise into one when designing better access to justice solutions. We also hear what positive design is and why lawyers should care more about emotions. But why would engin...
Episode 26: Proactive Legal Information Design with Helena Haapio and Rob Waller 20.10.2021 46:05
Making legal information more comprehensible and easier to use is a central theme in legal design. It is also a topic that has recently gained increasing research interest, sparking new ideas on how to enhance the usability of contracts and other legal documents in practice. After all, as research has shown, understanding what a document says is all about human metacognition. If users are enabled...
Episode 25: Decoding Law with Neuroscience with Dominique Ashby 12.10.2021 35:37
Profound understanding of human behavior is a key to success in legal design. Yet legal design doesn’t necessarily aim to nudge people to certain choices, it still seeks to influence people’s behavior in a positive way. When people’s cognitive and emotional needs are being met and they can truly understand what is expected of them, they are more likely to make choices that support the legal wellbe...
Episode 24: Rights at the Museum with Dina Bailey 05.10.2021 34:59
Museums and exhibitions are special venues for learning. Museums can use techniques and tools that create immersive, sensory experiences, evoking human emotions and thoughts unlike any other forms of communication. This way museums can effectively promote positive change through learning. Maybe there is something legal designers could learn from museums and their curators? Our guest in this episod...
Episode 23: Doing Law in the 21st Century with Astrid Kohlmeier and Meera Klemola 29.09.2021 46:14
It's no news that the world is changing rapidly. Lawyers are facing new challenges because of the increasing regulation, digitalization and the fact that consumers as end-users are demanding for more understandable and accessible legal services (and rightly so!). Doing law in the 21st Century with the 18th Century mindsets, traditions and tools isn't working any more. But how to change things? In...
Episode 22: Measuring the Impact of Contract Design with Katri Nousiainen 22.09.2021 30:05
There is increasing interest and demand towards contract design. While contract design might be a daily activity in some of the organizations, others might need more prove of why it is important and what's the impact of contract design. When the impact of design can be scientifically measured, it will make the use of design methods in legal context more appealing as the positive effects for the bu...
Episode 21: Bringing Structure and Empathy to Mediation with Pierangelo Bonanno 15.09.2021 31:39
Mediation is often seen as an alternative dispute resolution method to more traditional court proceedings, as the disputing parties are expected to participate more actively in the process. What is common to both, however, is that both proceedings are often led by trained legal professionals, who tend to put their legal knowledge and legal practices at the center. In such circumstances the genuine...
Episode 20: Breaking the Awkward Silence with Niina Ratsula 08.09.2021 32:43
All of the companies write policies and tick the boxes to demonstrate their compliance and business ethics. But it's really the corporate culture that defines how compliant and ethical the organization actually is. Cultural beliefs and manners determine what is right and acceptable in organizations and whether or not we speak up if there is something unlawful or unethical going on. For us hu...
Episode 19: Will AI Cause Lawyer Extinction, Jim Chiang? 01.09.2021 41:18
We kick off the new season with Jim Chiang, the CEO and Founder of My Legal Einstein. Jim is an AI pioneer with over 20 years of experience in big data analytics and AI algorithm development. He walks us through how the Legal Industry could benefit from AI and how it will make law better for lawyers and the end-users of law. His examples are so practical that AI finally makes sense! But do us lawy...
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