Leaving Egypt
Leaving Egypt Podcast
Leaving Egypt is a series of conversations with Jenny Sinclair, Al Roxburgh and guests exploring the vocation of the church in a context of cultural unravelling. Leaving Egypt seeks to make sense of this moment for communities of Christians in North America and the UK. In dialogue with guests, they read the signs of the times and share stories of how local expressions of God’s people are contributing to the reweaving of hope in our common life. leavingegyptpodcast.substack.com
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Jul 9, 2026
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Episodes
EP#44 - A New Kind of Humanism with Susannah Black Roberts 12.06.2025 1:13:08
In this episode Al Roxburgh and Jenny Sinclair talk with Susannah Black Roberts about the need for a new Christian humanism. Susannah is a journalist and an editor whose imagination is shaped by her life in New York City. With infectious curiosity she guides us to ask questions about what it means to be human and proposes we respond, in the growing shadow of AI, by making and doing rather than con...
EP#43 - A Spirit-filled Parish for the City - with Jo Gilbert 29.05.2025 1:15:49
In this episode Al Roxburgh and Jenny Sinclair talk with Jo Gilbert about discipleship and parish life in a fast-changing city. Jo works within a large and dynamic church community, and with students across the city, creating opportunities for formation, community events and local civic partnerships. Jo was raised as part of a Benedictine lay community and this, along with her other gifts, brings...
EP#42 - Living out of Control with Rodney Clapp 15.05.2025 1:13:43
In this episode Al Roxburgh and Jenny Sinclair talk with Rodney Clapp about the state of Christian life in a time of profound change. Exploring what it means for Christians to live as witnesses to the Gospel in a radically changing world, Rodney looks at the recent history of the Evangelical Church in America, and the longing for a Christian nationalism that reasserts control over the cultural nar...
EP #41 God wants us to be human again - With Samuel Luak 01.05.2025 1:15:35
In this episode Al Roxburgh and Jenny Sinclair talk with Samuel Luak about what it means to be human. Born in Sudan, as a teenager he was confronted with the horror of civil war and experienced the loss of family and the longing for revenge. It was in the midst of hate and death that he came to know the reconciling love of Jesus. Forced to leave his own country, as a refugee he made a new life in...
EP#40 - Wisdom in Disconcerting Times with Adrian Pabst 17.04.2025 1:20:15
Our work is only possible with your support. Please consider becoming a paid subscriber to enable us to continue with the podcast. In this episode, Al Roxburgh and Jenny Sinclair talk with Adrian Pabst. One of the big needs right now is the ability to comprehend this time of deep change unfolding across the West. Many people across the churches are struggling for some kind of foothold from which t...
EP#39 - The Investment Of Love with Bejoy Pal 03.04.2025 1:14:22
Our work is only possible with your support. Please consider becoming a paid subscriber to enable us to continue with the podcast. In this episode Al Roxburgh and Jenny Sinclair talk with Bejoy Pal about the relational character of God’s love reflected in the Street pastor movement. Bejoy’s own journey into the Christian faith is a living witness to the value of giving encouragement to the young....
EP#38 - God's Mission In The Rural With Sally Gaze 19.03.2025 1:21:40
Our work is only possible with your support. Please consider becoming a paid subscriber to enable us to continue with the podcast. In this episode Al Roxburgh and Jenny Sinclair talk with Sally Gaze. Sally is a creative leader in the midst of a church shaped by tradition, wrestling with the question of how to discern God’s directions, particularly in the rural context. Sally describes how forms of...
EP#37 A new, yet ancient Christian imagination with Peter Aschoff 06.03.2025 1:13:48
Our work is only possible with your support. Please consider becoming a paid subscriber to enable us to continue with the podcast. In this episode Al Roxburgh and Jenny Sinclair talk with Peter Aschoff, a teacher, academic and pastor in the Evangelical Lutheran Church in Bavaria. Peter currently serves a congregation in Nuremberg. For many years he wrestled with the question of how the Gospel comm...
EP#36 The “Jazz” of God’s People with Brian Fraser 20.02.2025 1:13:20
Our work is only possible with your support. Please consider becoming a paid subscriber to enable us to continue with the podcast. In this episode, Al Roxburgh and Jenny Sinclair talk with Brian Fraser . Brian is attentive to the radical shifts in the relationship between church and society, and to leaders of congregations who are asking how to stop decline and how to connect with local communitie...
EP#35 An Economy of Love and Reciprocity with Luigino Bruni 06.02.2025 1:14:31
Our work is only possible with your support. Please consider becoming a paid subscriber to enable us to continue with the podcast. In this episode Al Roxburgh and Jenny Sinclair talk with Luigino Bruni. It is rare to hear an economist address political economy through the lens of love, the woundedness of relationship or the primacy of gift. These, for Bruni, lie at the heart of a healing form of e...
EP#34 A Postliberal Response to the Unravelling with John Milbank 23.01.2025 1:13:57
Our work is only possible with your support. Please consider becoming a paid subscriber to enable us to continue with the podcast. In this episode Jenny Sinclair and Al Roxburgh talk with John Milbank . Recognizing that no one can predict where this time of cultural and political unravelling is leading, John discusses how God’s people can respond and sees signs of hope. Central to his vision for s...
EP#33 - End of 2024 Review 19.12.2024 1:05:44
Our work is only possible with your support. Please consider becoming a paid subscriber to enable us to continue with the podcast. Al Roxburgh and Jenny Sinclair review their Leaving Egypt conversations with guests over 2024 and explore the themes that have been emerging. From exploring what it means to listen meaningfully to the Holy Spirit, to the way political economy is impacting human life, t...
EP#32 – The Barmen Declaration - A Challenge to the Church with Rob Duncan 05.12.2024 1:13:08
Our work is only possible with your support. Please consider becoming a paid subscriber to enable us to continue with the podcast. Al Roxburgh and Jenny Sinclair talk with Rob Duncan about the Barmen Declaration of May 1934, a confession of faith declared by pastors, theologians and lay leaders during the “German Church Struggle” in Nazi Germany. Reviewing the Declaration’s context and the involve...
EP#31 Pastoral Faithfulness: Forming the parish as a community of hope with David Widdicombe 21.11.2024 1:27:24
Our work is only possible with your support. Please consider becoming a paid subscriber to enable us to continue with the podcast. Al Roxburgh and Jenny Sinclair talk with David Widdicombe about his ministry as an Anglican parish priest in Winnipeg, Canada. Beginning with childhood on a farm on the prairies, David’s journey of formation led him to an encounter with “Red Tory” conservatism and its...
Episode # 30 Economics: the “Theology” of our Age? - with Sr Helen Alford OP 07.11.2024 1:14:06
Our work is only possible with your support. Please consider becoming a paid subscriber to enable us to continue with the podcast. Al Roxburgh and Jenny Sinclair talk again with Sr Helen Alford to hear more about her vocation as a Dominican sister and as an economist. Sketching out the historical development of economics, Sr Helen describes how it became disconnected from human flourishing. She tr...
Episode #29 – Living a shared life: the Catholic Worker Movement - with Colin Miller 24.10.2024 1:14:09
Our work is only possible with your support. Please consider becoming a paid subscriber to enable us to continue with the podcast. Al Roxburgh and Jenny Sinclair talk with Colin Miller about his book We Are Only Saved Together and his own journey into the vision of Dorothy Day and vocation of being a Catholic Worker in his hometown of Minneapolis. Colin talks about his Christian upbringing: raise...
EP#28 The Corruption of Christianity: the life and work of Ivan Illich - with David Cayley 10.10.2024 1:21:59
Our work is only possible with your support. Please consider becoming a paid subscriber to enable us to continue with the podcast. Al Roxburgh and Jenny Sinclair talk with David Cayley about the insights of the Austrian Catholic priest, philosopher and social critic Ivan Illich (1926-2006). Through his work at the CBC (Canadian Broadcasting Corporation) on the show “Ideas,” David came to know Illi...
EP#27 The Spirit and the Kingdom in Lincoln - with Sian Wade 26.09.2024 1:11:39
Our work is only possible with your support. Please consider becoming a paid subscriber to enable us to continue with the podcast. Al Roxburgh and Jenny Sinclair talk with Sian Wade. Together, they explore her journey as a young pastor, which is characterised by a shift from doing “good things” to discerning what God is doing among the people in her neighbourhood. She talks about her love for peo...
EP#26 Being Church in the Age of the Machine with Paul Kingsnorth 12.09.2024 1:15:38
Our work is only possible with your support. Please consider becoming a paid subscriber to enable us to continue with the podcast. Al Roxburgh and Jenny Sinclair talk with Paul Kingsnorth about his spiritual journey from agnosticism, gnostic experimentation and Buddhism, to Christianity. He describes the ways in which the Orthodox tradition is shaping his engagement with the modern world and espec...
EP#25 - Economics, Modernity and the Wisdom of Catholic Tradition - with Sr Helen Alford OP 25.07.2024 1:19:07
Our work is only possible with your support. Please consider becoming a paid subscriber to enable us to continue with the podcast. Al Roxburgh and Jenny Sinclair talk with Sr Helen Alford about her Damascus Road experience as an engineering student and how it led her to discover Catholic Social Teaching and subsequently to take orders as a Dominican nun. Out of this intellectual vocation, she sha...
EP#24 - Missional: Newbigin and our unravelling - with Martin Robinson 11.07.2024 1:18:36
Our work is only possible with your support. Please consider becoming a paid subscriber to enable us to continue with the podcast. Al Roxburgh and Jenny Sinclair talk with Martin Robinson , a leading thinker and guide in missional practice and theology. Together they explore what the word “missional” meant for Lesslie Newbigin in contrast to what it is often taken to mean now - a strategy to save...
EP#23 - Coming To Terms With Power - With David Fitch 27.06.2024 1:06:31
Our work is only possible with your support. Please consider becoming a paid subscriber to enable us to continue with the podcast. Al Roxburgh and Jenny Sinclair talk with David Fitch about what it means to follow Jesus in the culture of our day. Fitch sees power as the primary force shaping our culture, one that, as God’s people, we have to confront. Dave draws attention to the ways power has in...
EP#22 - The Local Parish and its Calling With Alison Milbank 13.06.2024 1:15:24
Our work is only possible with your support. Please consider becoming a paid subscriber to enable us to continue with the podcast. Al Roxburgh and Jenny Sinclair talk with Alison Milbank about the unravelling of society and its institutions, and the profound changes in the church. She laments that in her own tradition, in the Church of England, there has been a loss of confidence about its inherit...
EP#20 Why the West needs to receive the gifts of African Christians - With Harvey Kwiyani 16.05.2024 1:14:18
Our work is only possible with your support. Please consider becoming a paid subscriber to enable us to continue with the podcast. Al Roxburgh and Jenny Sinclair talk with Harvey Kwiyani, a theologian from Malawi, now living in Liverpool and working across the UK, Europe and North America Harvey tells the story of growing up in rural Malawi, a place evangelised by David Livingstone in 1851, where...
EP#19 - Missiology in times of unravelling - with Martin Rodriguez and Greg McKinzie 02.05.2024 1:20:29
Our work is only possible with your support. Please consider becoming a paid subscriber to enable us to continue with the podcast. Al Roxburgh and Jenny Sinclair talk with the co-hosts of The Missiology Podcast , Martin Rodriguez and Greg McKinzie to discuss mission. They discuss how the churches have been affected by modernity, and how mission needs to change. Sharing the disorientation they enco...
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