Leadership In Law Podcast

The Google Maps Playbook for Law Firms in the AI Age Free Training How to Dominate Local Searches with AI Optimization! Learn how to take advantage of the #1 place your future clients are clicking and calling when they need legal help. What You're Going To Learn: → How AI is transforming local search: Understanding AEO (AI Engine Optimization) and GEO (Generative Engine Optimization) → Why tr...

Most owners think profit equals sellable, but buyers see something else: key man risk, overworked operators, and books a lender won’t touch. We sit down with Evan Poling, founder of BizRetire.com and former financial crimes investigator, to unpack why so many small businesses never sell and how to flip the script by building true transferable value. Evan’s reviewed hundreds of company financials,...

Numbers don’t build a law firm, owners do. This conversation with Emil, a CPA who serves only solo and small firms, shows how to replace once-a-year tax prep with a clear, repeatable system for growth. We pull back the curtain on what separates firms that double from those that stall: clean monthly books, a true owner mindset, and a proactive tax plan that turns the code into cash flow. We start w...

We sit down with Victoria, a law-firm-focused bookkeeper and trust accounting specialist, to unpack how clean books transform guesswork into growth. From eliminating compliance risk to using ROI to drive hiring and marketing, this conversation turns financial fog into a step-by-step roadmap you can act on today. We start with the biggest hidden cost: misclassifying client trust funds as revenue. V...

We sit down with Anna, a trusts and estates attorney who launched her own firm after processing thousands of estate plans during COVID, to unpack a growth playbook built on education, community, and fearless outreach. Her story shows how to convert hands-on experience into a practice that actually scales, without sacrificing empathy or client care. Anna explains how early exposure to planning, adm...

Warning: Is your law firm invisible in AI-driven search? Right now, potential clients in your city are asking legal questions online. Will Google's AI show them your firm, or your competitors? The 2026 Local SEO Playbook for Law Firms is your blueprint for dominating visibility in the new era of search. This no-fluff, action-focused guide reveals step-by-step strategies to help you capture hi...

What if the choice between a thriving law firm and a fulfilling life is a false one? We sit down with Gary Mitchell, a veteran coach to law firm owners, to unpack a practical path to growth without burnout, what he calls the and mindset. Instead of forcing every owner into the same mold, Gary shows how to build leadership and management around the strengths you actually want to use, whether that’s...

We sit down with Garrett and Ted Sutton, the father–son legal team behind Corporate Direct, to unpack the real-world playbook for asset protection, what actually works, what gets people into trouble, and how to build a structure that holds up under pressure. From first entity to multi-state operations, they share the simple, high-leverage steps most founders overlook and the paperwork that stops a...

What if the biggest profit leaks in your firm aren’t in pricing or pipeline, but in people? We sit down with HR consultant Kelly Murphy, who brings 18+ years of experience, including at a multi-state law firm, to unpack how systems, connection, and smart leadership turn culture into a measurable competitive edge. Kelly explains why “appreciation” isn’t enough and how real connection, leaders notic...

Most AI marketing falls flat because it forgets the human on the other side. We sit down with Mike Montague, agency leader, author, and voice for human-first AI, to unpack a practical playbook that helps law firms reach the right clients at the right moment without resorting to spammy tactics or generic copy. Mike traces his path from tech and radio to sales and AI-driven marketing, then shows how...

A knock at the door, a stack of papers, and suddenly your heart is racing. Getting sued over credit card debt feels terrifying, and for many people it triggers panic rather than a plan. We sat down with attorney Efstathios Georgiou, who spent years on the bank side before defending consumers, to unpack what really happens when a creditor files suit and how to respond before a default judgment stea...

Missed calls cost more than ad spend ever will. That’s the hard truth we unpack with criminal defense leader Adam Rossen, who rebuilt his intake around voice AI to capture late-night inquiries, route clients instantly, and deliver a consistent, empathetic first impression every time. Instead of treating intake like admin, he treats it like sales, backed by a clear strategy to become an AI-native f...

What if selling less could help your firm grow more? We sit down with business advisor and author Diane Helbig to rethink how lawyers win clients without scripts, pressure, or jargon. Instead of forcing a pitch, we break down a discovery-first approach that uncovers why timing matters, what impact the client expects, and whether a budget exists, before a proposal is ever written. Diane shares the...

We sat down with Ted DeBettencourt, a JD-MBA turned legal marketing operator, to unpack how human-led chat, built on empathy and speed, can lift qualified leads by 50 percent or more. Ted shares the origin story of firing generic chat vendors, answering chats himself, and scaling to nearly 100 agents serving 1,100 firms, while measuring everything from response time to tone. We walk through what a...

Handshakes feel friendly until someone stops paying. We sit down with corporate and M&A attorney Brandon Woodward to map a smarter way to build, protect, and sell a business, without losing sleep or leaving money on the table. From prosecutor to in-house counsel to founding partner, Brandon shares how a client-first model, disciplined systems, and strategic networking create leverage for small...

The billable hour has dominated legal practice for decades, but Andrew Legrand is pioneering a different approach that's transforming how entrepreneurs interact with their attorneys. As founder of Spera Law Group, Andrew has built one of the country's leading subscription-based law firms, charging clients based on value rather than time spent. Andrew saw how hourly billing discouraged cl...

Charlène Gisele takes us on a profound journey from high-powered litigation at Jones Day to becoming a pioneering burnout prevention specialist after witnessing her father suffer a heart attack driven by work stress. This transformative experience completely reshaped her definition of leadership from "achieving the most success" to "surviving your success" – a perspective shift...

Meet Jenna Harrison, a reformed overworker turned business coach who helps ambitious professionals build more freedom, impact, and wealth in just three days a week. In this mind-expanding conversation, Jenna reveals how the military's approach to leadership development and identity cultivation transformed her understanding of human potential and performance. At the heart of Jenna's philo...

The path through elder care and dementia planning can feel like navigating a labyrinth without a map. Nationally board-certified elder law attorney Robert Mannor joins us to reveal how a leadership approach creates better outcomes for families facing these difficult transitions. Most families facing dementia get fragmented and conflicting advice. Robert shares his "circle of care" approa...

Family law powerhouse Stacy Phillips joins host Marilyn Jenkins to share the unfiltered truth about her remarkable four-decade journey from young attorney to nationally recognized legal leader. Unlike today's carefully mapped career trajectories, Stacy reveals how authenticity and organic growth became her winning formula for building an extraordinary practice that represents high-profile cli...

At the heart of their approach lies an unwavering commitment to ethics and transparency. Adrian, who transitioned from personal injury paralegal to immigration attorney, explains why honesty with clients, even when it means turning away cases, has become their strongest asset. "We'd rather lose you as a client than keep you and then not be able to help you later," shares Abby, highl...

"Your data isn't just numbers, it's the blueprint for your firm's growth," explains Bo Royal, sharing hard-won wisdom from his journey from Fortune 500 advertising executive to specialized legal marketing expert. This conversation peels back the curtain on why so many law firms waste thousands on ineffective PPC campaigns and what separates successful digital marketing fro...

What happens to your digital privacy when you cross international borders? The answer might shock you. Veteran NYC criminal defense attorney Saul Bienenfeld pulls back the curtain on the murky legal landscape of border searches in this riveting conversation. With over 35 years of courtroom experience, including time as a prosecutor with a 98% conviction rate, Saul delivers straight talk about your...

Jeff Holman is revolutionizing legal support for growing businesses with a model that makes perfect sense once you hear it yet somehow hasn't existed until now. As founder of Intellectual Strategies and creator of the first fractional legal team model, Jeff brings a unique triple-threat perspective as engineer, lawyer, and business strategist to tackle the very real problem facing innovative...

Ever feel like you're trapped in a legal Groundhog Day? Your practice looks successful on paper, but something's missing, and the wine and Trader Joe's cookies aren't filling the void? Wendy Meadows, family law attorney turned certified life coach and bestselling author of "Sparkle and Grit," shares her transformative journey from burnout to purpose-driven practice in...