Art of Leadership Network

Leaders in Living Rooms

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Sean Morgan invites you into intimate, “living room” conversations with high-caliber leaders that few others have access to. When you gather in a living room, you have the opportunity to hear deeper glimpses into someone’s life. Join Sean and leaders such as Carey Nieuwhof, Andy Stanley, Pat Gelsinger, Dharius Daniels, Derwin Gray, Ken Costa, and Glenn Packiam as they discuss how to aim for health during the various transitions leadership inevitably brings.

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Art of Leadership Network

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Religion

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Latest episode

Jun 30, 2026

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Episodes

LILR 062 | Post Pandemic Focus with Warren Bird 02.08.2022

“The definition of what the Lead Pastor needs to be and do coming out of the pandemic has changed.” In this episode, Sean sits down with Dr. Warren Bird from ECFA to lean into the challenges pastors are facing coming out of the pandemic, and into recession and inflation. With a heavy focus on Ephesians 4:11-12, Dr. Bird and Sean wrestle with how churches honestly answer the question, “Are we an eq...

LILR 061 | Bouncing Back Better, Healthier & Stronger with Jim Burgen 19.07.2022

“The leadership lesson was that it all happened on my watch. It wasn’t all my fault, but it was my responsibility as a leader to shepherd my staff well and I wasn’t doing that.” Meet Jim Burgen from Flatirons Community Church in Colorado. In one of the most heartfelt and vulnerable episodes of our show, Jim opens up about what triggered his six month sabbatical and how God used it for Jim to come...

LILR 060 | Paramount Topics and Must Listen To Insight on the Road to Future Church with Nancy Beach and Samantha Beach Kiley 05.07.2022

“In spite of its brokenness, I still have hope for the local church. And I believe it's still God’s Plan A for reconciling the world.” Meet Nancy Beach and her daughter, Samantha Beach Kiley, two influential leaders of the Church and co-authors of Next Sunday: An Honest Dialogue About the Future of the Church. In this episode, Sean Morgan digs deep with Nancy and Samantha on the future of communit...

LILR 059 | Leading Willow Creek: Dave Dummitt Talks Overcoming Challenges & Staff Culture 21.06.2022

“People kept asking me, are you excited? But I wasn’t all that excited, and I felt like something was wrong. To be honest, I was a little bit scared. There are so many calls in scripture where the call was clear, but it wasn’t something they were excited about.” Meet Dave Dummitt, Senior Pastor of Willow Creek Community Church, dynamic leader and pastor who knows a thing or two about transitions....

LILR 058 | Finding Momentum by Finding Rock Bottom with Greg Lindsey 07.06.2022

“We’re half the church we were before Covid hit, attendance wise. But the foundation is stronger than it was when we built from where we are now, before.” Meet Greg Lindsey, Lead Pastor of Discovery Christian Church in Colorado Springs, CO. From lawyer, to church planter, to transitions leader, Greg has a transition story that didn’t start well, and then got worse before it ever got better. He sha...

LILR 057 | Leading Change & Finding Post Pandemic Clarity with Gene Appel 17.05.2022

“People aren’t looking for solutions to problems they don’t understand. I would have spent a lot more time in my younger years selling the problem, rather than selling the solution that people weren’t in the market for.” Since 2008 Gene Appel has been leading Eastside Christian Church in Anaheim, CA. Prior to his long tenure and catalytic leadership at Eastside, he has modeled (twice) what it look...

LILR 056 | Ashley Wooldridge on Post Pandemic Momentum and Transitions Leadership 03.05.2022

“The most challenging leadership task we’ll ever take on is letting go.” On this episode of Leaders In Living Rooms, Ashley Wooldridge, Lead Pastor of Christ’s Church of the Valley in Phoenix, AZ shares his personal story of the baton handoff with former Lead Pastor, Don Wilson, five years later. Ashley’s unique perspective on transition comes from his time at Intel prior to joining the CCV team....

LILR 055 | Focus and The Mindset of Potential with Larry Osborne 19.04.2022

Covid was a black swan event. Something that only happens maybe every twenty years, but completely changes culture. You have the opportunity for a new direction, a new place, a new time. What will you do with it? Meet Larry Osborne from North Coast Church who challenges leaders to understand where they really are today, not where they were two years ago. “Vision is worthless when you only know whe...

LILR 054 | Burnout & Sabbatical with Alan Briggs 05.04.2022

“I don’t even know what I’m like rested if I live marginless.” Meet Alan Briggs, Director of Culture & Coaching at Stay Forth, an organization passionate about getting leaders healthy. In this episode, Alan addresses burnout, the role sabbaticals play in avoiding it (and how to receive them well). He walks listeners through creating margin by elimination, designation, delegation, and automation. A...

LILR 053 | Creating Margin, Avoiding Burnout with Jonathan & Lindsey Hansen 15.03.2022

Jonathan and Lindsey Hansen moved their two young children and a seventy pound labradoodle across the country. They were packed up and loaded down with passion, excitement, and vision for the church in California God was calling them to lead. What they walked into was a failed transition from the Founding Pastor/Planter, a church split, and a congregation that was in pain from all the change. What...

LILR 052 | Jay Kim on Staying Curious and Finding Opportunities 01.03.2022

Jay Kim’s transition story is so uniquely woven that it puts God’s perfect architecture of our lives on full display. With a story that stems from a longing to lead and a deep calling to shape culture, Jay invites us into the intimate details of his transition from WestGate Church to Vintage Church, and eventually back to WestGate. He talks us through the journey that he’s still on, the right pace...

LILR 051 | Eugene Cho on Clarity of Calling and Self Care 15.02.2022

“God’s call upon our lives doesn’t change. Our context may change, but our call never does.” Meet Eugene Cho, former Senior Pastor of Quest Church and President/CEO of Bread of the World. In this episode, Eugene shares insights about God’s calling for your life, defining your life’s values, and practical ways to monitor your health as a church leader. He encourages us to embodied leadership. To sh...

LILR 050 | The Best Of Leaders in Living Rooms 01.02.2022

For just over two years, you’ve been invited into the living rooms of over forty leaders; getting privileged insights into their life that few others have access to. Today’s show is a podcast milestone, marking the fiftieth episode of Leaders in Living Rooms! To celebrate 50 episodes, we’ve compiled seven of the top highlights and learnings from our guests. We invite you to listen in on the “cliff...

LILR 049 | Tommy Politz on How to Lead Different Seasons of Ministry 18.01.2022

“Change is painful, but it's better than death.” Meet Tommy Politz, Senior Pastor of Hillside Christian Church, who has served as pastor, church planter, and transitional leader in his 30+ years of ministry. In this episode, Tommy shares with us his own personal journey of transitional leadership and the wisdom he’s gained along the way. Transitional leaders will face high resistance in their ques...

LILR 048 | Daniel Grothe on The Power of Place, Staying Rooted, and Transitioning Well 04.01.2022

There is both fulfillment and fruitfulness in staying in your current leadership role and in transitioning well to something new if God calls you to go. “We don't always have to leave to build a life of significance.” Meet Daniel Grothe from New Life Church, Colorado Springs, CO who shares his personal story of the road that led him to stay at New Life. If you are in a season of difficulty at your...

LILR 047 | Seacoast Leadership Transition with Greg and Josh Surratt - Part 2 21.12.2021

Part 2 of 2 - Seacoast has been a pioneering church for decades and now continues a legacy of fruitful ministry through a senior leadership transition from father to son. Greg and Josh talk about the highs and lows of that transition and offer sage advice to anyone in a leadership transition.

LILR 046 | Seacoast Leadership Transition with Greg and Josh Surratt - Part 1 07.12.2021

Seacoast has been a pioneering church for decades and now continues a legacy of fruitful ministry through a senior leadership transition from father to son. Greg and Josh talk about the highs and lows of that transition and offer sage advice to anyone in a leadership transition.

LILR 045 | Kevin Queen discusses transition leadership, staying encouraged, and having perspective - Part 2 23.11.2021

Part 2 of Sean Morgan's discussion with Kevin Queen. After a devastating transition of their lead pastor, Crosspoint church in Nashville was without a lead pastor and 3/4 of their executive team moved on. This is the story of Kevin's call to leadership at Crosspoint. Kevin has now led Crosspoint through a leadership transition, a direct hit by a tornado, and now a global pandemic. In part one of...

LILR 044 | Kevin Queen discusses transition leadership, staying encouraged, and having perspective - Part 1 09.11.2021

After a devastating transition of their lead pastor, Crosspoint church in Nashville was without a lead pastor and 3/4 of their executive team moved on. This is the story of Kevin's call to leadership at Crosspoint. Kevin has now led Crosspoint through a leadership transition, a direct hit by a tornado, and now a global pandemic. In part one of this two-part series, Kevin gets real about the most i...

LILR 043 | Leadership Transitions: How to make room for leaders around you - with Jeff Frazier and Brian Coffey 25.10.2021

Chapelstreet church recently transitioned senior leadership from Brian Coffey to Jeff Frazier. Their story sets the bar for making room for younger leaders to rise up and then partnering with influence when the outgoing leader not only stays in the church but stays on staff. The story at Chapelstreet will open up your mind to the possibilities of leading well in transition seasons.

LILR 042 | Carey Nieuwhof on Identity, Politics, and Hope 11.10.2021

We close out our 3-part series on Unity with Carey Nieuwhof bringing some deep thought to the conversation. Carey openly talks about how we get our identity wrapped up in things that can easily divide us, how we need to remain humble with our opinions and conclusions, and how when we move to cancel someone or something it is actually more of a statement on our own lack of ability to deal with adve...

LILR 041 | Glenn Packiam On The Cost of Unity 28.09.2021

About the Episode We continue our dive into unity with Glenn Packiam giving insights on the historicity of unity in the early church and four keys to unity: Humility, Hospitality, Solidarity, Mutuality. Who is Glen Packiam? Glenn Packiam is an Associate Senior Pastor at New Life Church in Colorado Springs, Colorado, and the lead pastor of New Life Downtown, one of the seven congregations of New Li...

LILR 040 | Ugly Bride - Three Essentials for Church Unity with Sean Morgan 14.09.2021

About the Episode Sean unpacks why our culture is so self-centered, why leaders are losing respect, and how that leads to a lack of unity in the church.  The process of rebuilding the foundation of the unity we need is discussed using the Three Essentials for Church Unity: Commitment, Humility, and Sacrifice. Who is Sean Morgan? Sean Morgan joined CDF Capital in 2014 to launch the Leadership Capit...

LILR 039 | Leading Staff Transition Part 2 - with Jud Wilhite and Jeff Brodie 31.08.2021

About the Episode Our 2nd of 2 episodes on the topic of preparing the church for the decisions of a new leader - particularly when it comes to making changes to your org chart, structure, and even transitioning staff off. Jud and Jeff give us great insight. Who is Jud Wilhite? Jud Wilhite is an author, speaker and senior pastor of Central Church, a church founded in Las Vegas with over twelve loca...

LILR 038 | Leading staff transitions—insight from Dave Stone, Ricky Jenkins and John Fanous 17.08.2021

About the Episode Every church needs healthy change. But many times church culture resists change of all kinds. How do leaders prepare the church for change and make those changes in the healthiest ways possible? In this episode we bring in multiple leaders’ insight and expertise. Who is Dave Stone? Dave Stone served at Southeast Christian Church in Louisville, KY for the past 30 years. The last 1...

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