Lawyers Who Learn

When Jessica left her six-figure government position at the SEC Division of Enforcement, she discovered something startling: she wasn’t the only highly educated lawyer secretly "winging it" with her money, many were carrying financial shame that kept them trapped in unfulfilling careers. Today, she's transformed that revelation into a thriving practice as an Accredited Financial Counselor, helping...

Nine years ago, when Tom Martin talked about chatbots and artificial intelligence to lawyers, they dismissed it, saying it sounded like a science fiction novel. Today, his LawDroid platform serves courts, legal aid organizations, and law firms with AI solutions he's been quietly perfecting since that early skepticism—all while remaining bootstrapped and profitable. In this episode of Lawyers Who L...

Eric Kanefsky took an 85% pay cut to leave BigLaw for the U.S. Attorney's Office, then borrowed $50,000 to start his own firm —transforming from government lawyer into managing partner of a 25-attorney white collar defense powerhouse. In this episode of Lawyers Who Learn , host David Schnurman reconnects with his former college roommate to explore Kanefsky's unconventional reverse path from Temple...

What if true transformation isn't about adding more to your life, but deliberately removing what's holding you back? Keith Lee , a partner at Big Law Investor , challenges the conventional wisdom that growth means doing more. His contrarian insight: sustainable change requires sacrifice. Lee's journey from living in a storage closet under a staircase for a year—training in martial arts with nothin...

What happens when a successful attorney has not one, but two midlife crises and emerges as a leading voice in cybersecurity? Yan Ross , editor-in-chief of Cyber Defense Magazine and author of "The vCISO Playbook," shares his unconventional journey from Washington D.C. banking law to running a ranch in Arizona while protecting small businesses from cyber threats. Ross's story begins with a pivotal...

In this episode of Lawyers Who Learn , David Schnurman , CEO of Lawline , interviews Caitlin Vaughn , Managing Director of Learning and Professional Development at Goodwin , who shares her remarkable journey from practicing attorney to innovating legal education. Caitlin's story begins with an unexpected twist during the 2008 financial crisis when Goodwin created the "Make a Difference Fellowship,...

In this episode of Lawyers Who Learn, David Schnurman , CEO of Lawline , interviews Anastasia Boyko , Legal Futurist and Product Evangelist at Filevine and host of PLI's " How to Navigate Law School" podcast . Anastasia shares her remarkable journey from fleeing Ukraine at age eight to becoming a pioneering force in legal education and innovation, earning her self-described title as the "Goldilock...

In this episode of Lawyers Who Learn, David Schnurman , CEO of Lawline , reconnects with Rob Toomey , co-founder of TypeCoach , for a wide-ranging conversation that begins with their shared experience meeting while living in Barcelona and evolves into a deep dive on personality types, AI, and the future of interpersonal competence in legal practice. Rob shares insights from his journey from BigLaw...

In this deeply personal episode of Lawyers Who Learn , David Schnurman , CEO of Lawline , interviews Somya Kaushik , Associate General Counsel at Mitratech , who reveals the foundation behind her diverse legal career: a lifelong practice of meditation, yoga, and self-empowerment rooted in her cultural heritage. This conversation explores the intersection of ancient wisdom and modern legal practice...

In this episode of Lawyers Who Learn, David Schnurman , CEO of Lawline , interviews Maria Yiannitsarakos , a practicing real estate attorney turned confidence coach who brings ancient wisdom to modern legal practice. Maria shares her remarkable journey from working at a law firm to building her own practice while raising three children, driven by her need for freedom and the stoic principle of con...

In this episode of Lawyers Who Learn , David Schnurman , CEO of Lawline , interviews Jordan Furlong , founder of Law21 and one of the legal profession's most influential voices on reform and the future of lawyering. This conversation tackles the fundamental questions facing legal education and the profession itself: Why do we have lawyers? What value do they provide? And how should we form compete...

In this fascinating episode of Lawyers Who Learn , David Schnurman , CEO of Lawline , interviews Conor Grennan , Chief AI Architect at NYU Stern and founder of AI Mindset , who brings a unique perspective on how AI will fundamentally reshape education and work. The conversation begins with an inspiring story about Conor taking his 16-year-old son to Nepal to teach AI to NGOs, revealing how the nex...

In this episode of Lawyers Who Learn , David Schnurman , CEO of Lawline , interviews Kendra Brodin , whose unique background as an attorney, social worker, and wellbeing coach led her to become CEO of Esquire Well . This conversation explores the fascinating intersection of law, social work, and entrepreneurship while diving into the real challenges of building authentic expertise and overcoming i...

In this episode of Lawyers Who Learn , host David interviews Niki Black , one of legal tech's most influential voices and employee number one at MyCase . This conversation goes beyond the typical career overview to explore the learning journey behind building authentic expertise in a rapidly evolving industry. Niki opens up about her transition from practicing criminal and civil law to becoming a...

In this compelling episode of Lawyers Who Learn , host David interviews Steve Fretzin , one of the legal industry's most respected business development coaches and author of five books on legal rainmaking. This isn't your typical business development conversation - it's a candid deep dive into the mistakes and transformative moments that shaped a coaching empire. Steve opens up about his journey f...

In this episode of Lawyers Who Learn , David Schnurman speaks with Robert Hanna , founder of KC Partners legal recruiting and host of the Legally Speaking podcast, one of the legal industry's most successful shows with nearly 400 episodes across 6,500+ cities worldwide. Robert shares his journey from working at traditional legal recruitment firms to building his own company and becoming a digital...

In this episode of Lawyers Who Learn , David Schnurman speaks with Ian Nelson , co-founder of Hotshot , a leading legal training company revolutionizing how lawyers develop their skills in the age of AI. Ian shares his unconventional journey from BigLaw attorney at Kramer Levin to entrepreneur, revealing how a career-changing assignment to London exposed him to the UK's innovative support and lega...

In this episode of Lawyers Who Learn , David Schnurman , CEO of Lawline , has a conversation with Erin Levine , founder of Hello Divorce - an innovative platform transforming the divorce process. Erin shares her journey from sexual abuse survivor to family law attorney to legal tech entrepreneur, revealing how her personal experience with the legal system as a teen shaped her mission to make divor...

In this episode of Lawyers Who Learn , David Schnurman , CEO of Lawline , has a conversation with Laura Cowan, founder of 2-Hour Lifestyle Lawye r (2HLL) and author of the newly released book " Lifestyle Lawyer Revolution ." Laura shares her fascinating journey from working as a CPA at Ernst & Young and hedge funds to making a bold career change at age 35 to attend law school. After her mother...

In this episode of Lawyers Who Learn , David Schnurman , CEO of Lawline , speaks with Seth Price , founder of Price Benowitz LLP and BluShark Digital . Seth shares his entrepreneurial journey from GW Law graduate to building a 50-lawyer firm and one of the legal industry's most successful digital marketing agencies. Seth reveals how he and his law school friend created a "divide and conquer" partn...

In this episode of Lawyers Who Learn , David Schnurman , CEO of Lawline , has a conversation with Evan Shenkman , Chief Knowledge and Innovation Officer at Fisher Phillips . Evan shares his journey from employment litigation attorney to legal innovation leader, and discusses how his firm embraces cutting-edge legal technology. The discussion centers on Fisher Phillips' pioneering role as the first...

In this episode of Lawyers Who Learn , David Schnurman , CEO of Lawline , has a conversation with Ted Theodoropoulos , founder and CEO of Infodash , the leading cloud intranet and extranet platform for law firms. Ted shares his entrepreneurial journey from starting a collection agency during college to working at Microsoft and Bank of America before launching his own company focused on legal techn...

In this episode of Lawyers Who Learn , David Schnurman , CEO of Lawline , has a conversation with John Didday , Associate General Counsel for Product and Privacy at Zendesk . John shares his journey from starting at Quinn Emanuel to transitioning in-house at health tech and software companies, ultimately finding his way to Zendesk in 2019. The discussion focuses on John's insights about being an e...

In this episode of Lawyers Who Learn , David Schnurman , CEO of Lawline , talks with Ed Walters , co-founder of Fastcase and current Chief Strategy Officer at vLex , following a 2023 merger. The discussion traces Walters' remarkable journey from starting Fastcase with Phil Rosenthal in 2000 to building a legal research platform that disrupted established providers like Westlaw and LexisNexis. Walt...

In this episode of Lawyers Who Learn , David Schnurman , CEO of Lawline , has a conversation with Linda Maryanov , an estate planning and administration attorney with 40 years of experience who created the "Thursday Think Tank" - a virtual study group for trust and estates and elder law/special needs attorneys that began during COVID and has flourished for five years. Linda shares how the Think Ta...