Cecil Cicirello and Craig Mousin
Lawful Assembly
The Lawful Assembly podcast teams up two divergent activists, a Secular Humanist Political Activist with an immigration lawyer and an ordained clergy to dissect politics, important legal issues facing the United States, and the role of religion in our political and legal landscapes. Its challenging conversation combines a bit of humor with lamentations over injustices, combined with equal measures of pragmatic cynicism and faith-filled hope. Engage with us as we navigate through the complexities of governance and justice, examining how beliefs and law intersect in the shaping of society. Lawfu...
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Cecil Cicirello and Craig Mousin
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Jan 31, 2025
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Biden Suggests Ways to Rein in Supreme Court, How to Stay Positive 02.08.2024 37:14
Today we talk about President Biden's plan to reform the supreme court. We also field a question on how to remain positive in a world that inundates us with negativity. Democrats May Have a Real Chance to Reform the Supreme Court FACT SHEET: President Biden Announces Bold Plan to Reform the Supreme Court and Ensure No President Is Above the Law | The White House You can find information on the...
US vs Rahimi Case and How to Reconsider Gun Policy 26.07.2024 41:00
We finish our conversation on recent gun decisions in the supreme court. We also talk about what we might consider good gun law. United States v. Rahimi (June 21, 2014); https://www. supremecourt.gov/opinions/ 23pdf/22-915new_ihdk.pdf Sophie Sherry's article in the July 23, 2024 Chicago Sun Times , "Domestic violence deaths spiked 110% in Illinois last year, adding to calls for passage of K...
McDonald, Bruen, Gun rights, and A Dismissal by Judge Cannon 19.07.2024 46:22
We contiune our second ammendment discussion in light of the recent attempt on the life of the former president. We also talk about the dismissal of the documents case. New York State Rifle and Pistol Association, Inc. v. Bruen, 142 S.Ct.2111 (2022): https://www.supremecourt.gov/ opinions/21pdf/20-843_new_ m648.pdf To review Justice Breyer's list of scholars who have documented the historical...
The Bedrock of Second Amendment Cases: DC vs. Heller (2008) 12.07.2024 36:34
Today is the first part of a series on recenct Supreme Court cases on the Second Ammendment. Today we talk about the District of Columbia vs Heller District of Columbia v. Heller, 554 U.S. 570 (2008): https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/boundvolumes/554bv.pdf Giffords Law Center to Prevent Gun Violence: https://giffords.org/lawcenter/gun-laws/litigation/ Craig has previously written on gun cont...
Presidential Immunity 03.07.2024 47:37
We are releasing a little early this week because this is an important episode and much of the week is a holiday. Trump v. United States : https://www.supremecourt.gov/ opinions/23pdf/23-939_e2pg.pdf "The Man for All Seasons" (Final Scene): https://www.youtube.com/ watch?v=ODejZPHC9vU&t=2s Dr. Susan Thistlethwaite "Fight On" on Substack: https:// susanthistlethwaitewaite. substack.co...
Emergency Abortions in Idaho, Ten Commandments in Louisiana 28.06.2024 37:01
Today we talk about the Supreme Court case in Idaho and the Ten Commandments in classrooms in Louisiana. Sister Helen Prejean, Dead Man Walking, The Eyewitness Account of the Death Penalty That Sparked a National Debate, (Vintage Books, 2013), 218-219. Michael L. Radelet, Hugo A. Bedau, Constance Putnam, In Spite of Innocence: Erroneous Convictions in Capital Cases , (Boston, Northeastern Uni...
Recent Supreme Court Rulings 21.06.2024 36:01
We recorded on Juneteenth so we talk about the history briefly. We also discuss the recent supreme court rulings. "The Historical Legacy of Juneteenth:" https://nmaahc.si.edu/ explore/stories/historical- legacy-juneteenth Biden Executive Orders: Links: White House Fact Sheet: https://www.whitehouse.gov/ briefing-room/statements- releases/2024/06/18/fact- sheet-president-biden- announces-new-a...
Legal Briefs: Justice Alito's OTHER Flag, Biden Executive Order on Immigration 14.06.2024 31:09
We talk about the Appeal To Heaven flag on Justice Alito's vacation home and the new executive order on immigration. Craig's op-ed in the ACCU Update (Summer 2012), "The Messenger Matters" can be found at: https://works.bepress.com/craig_mousin/36/ Dina Nayeri's quote can be found in The Ungrateful Refugee, What Immigrants Never Tell You, (NY: Catapult, 2019), p. 262. NIJC National Policy Direc...
Trump Guilty on 34 Counts of Election Interference 07.06.2024 36:23
Today we talk about the election Interference / hush money case and the 34 felony counts against a former president. Here are the articles referenced: Trump Guilty on All Counts in Hush-Money Case - The New York Times May 31, 2024 - by Heather Cox Richardson This obscure N.Y. election law is at the heart of Trump's hush money trial Posts misrepresent New York judge's instructions to jury in T...
Alito's Flag Controversy, the 10 Commandments, and Courtroom Decorum. 31.05.2024 41:49
We cover multiple stories this week here are the articles: Samuel Alito's snide denial of his Jan. 6 flag is just as ugly as flying it in the first place Democratic Sen. Dick Durbin Calls On Samuel Alito To Recuse From Jan. 6 Cases Key Senate Democrat doesn't plan to probe Justice Alito over upside-down flag Louisiana becomes 1st state to require the Ten Commandments be posted in classrooms As c...
Reflections on Civil Disobedience 24.05.2024 37:03
Today we talk about the protests on college campuses and Craig tells a story similar to today, when he protested the Vietnam War. Articles used: Report on some of the agreements negotiated on college campuses in Spring 2024. Report on all universities destroyed in Gaza during this war. MLK, Jr. "Beyond Vietnam" speech. NPR story on Dr. Orest Ranum's files burned Orangeburg Massacre Kent State...
Restrictions To An Already Compromised Asylum System 17.05.2024 34:18
This week we talk about a proposed rule from the Biden Administration that may change asylum proceedures and allow adjudicators to turn away people without proper research on their background. Read the proposed rule: https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2024/05/13/2024-10390/application-of-certain-mandatory-bars-in-fear-screenings Read the NIJC's breakdown: https://immigrantjustice.org/press-...
Is the Presidency Immune from Prosecution? Pt. 2 10.05.2024 50:48
We contiune to listen to the oral arguments from the supreme court on April 25th where they argued that the president is immune to prosecution for public acts. Craig reads some amicus curiae briefs to help us understand the arguments. https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/23/23-939/307029/20240408130715170_No.%2023-939bsacRetiredFour-StarAdmiralsAndGenerals.pdf https://www.alabamaag.gov/wp-con...
Is the Presidency Immune from Prosecution? Pt. 1 03.05.2024 40:40
We listen to the oral arguments from the supreme court on April 25th where they argued that the president is immune to prosecution for public acts. Craig reads some amicus curiae briefs to help us understand the arguments. https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/23/23-939/307029/20240408130715170_No.%2023-939bsacRetiredFour-StarAdmiralsAndGenerals.pdf https://www.alabamaag.gov/wp-content/uploads...
Mediation and Negotiation Techniques for Approaching Difficult Conversations 26.04.2024 44:45
Here is Craig's opening paragraph framework: Although this unscripted podcast began as a discussion of difficult conversations, it soon veered into how to engage in conversations about racism and war. We soon realized that the tools needed to engage fully may differ when conversations occur with friends, within a family, a community, a library board, a university, or a national dialogue. We acknow...
Judge Cannon and Trump's Classified Documents Case 19.04.2024 38:46
Today we talk about the documents case and the judge overseeing it, and the judge appointed by Donald Trump in 2019, Judge Cannon. https://www.nytimes.com/2024/ 02/22/us/politics/trump-trial- documents-cannon.html https://www.nytimes.com/2024/ 04/09/us/politics/trump- documents-witnesses.html https://www.nytimes.com/2024/ 04/04/us/politics/judge-trump- dismissal-classified- documents.html
States Rights vs Federal Power 12.04.2024 35:52
We talk about the tension between states rights and federal power. How does a court decide which to lean more heavily on? Articles referenced: Valor The myth of 'open borders' For additional description of how state laws impacted the travel and work of African-Americans or freed slaves in the years before the Civil War, see e.g. , Kate Masur, Until Justice Be Done, America's First Civil Rights...
Listener Questions 05.04.2024 37:23
We answer several listener questions this week. We talk about a lot of different issues and here are some of the links we suggested in the episode: https://immigrantjustice.org/ https://cmsny.org/ https://trac.syr.edu/immigration/ https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/
Lying, Disinformation and our U.S. Political Landscape 29.03.2024 39:35
Today we talk about lying in the political discourse. We used the following news articles for reference "Can't make it up": Experts say transcript shows special counsel Robert Hur "lied" about Biden | Salon.com Biden special counsel Robert Hur's resignation from DOJ makes his testimony "even more problematic" | Salon.com Anti-sex trafficking advocate accuses GOP Sen. Katie Britt of distorting her...
Injunction Junction - What's your Function? 22.03.2024 30:53
For more information on antebellum state migration laws, see, " The myth of 'open borders .' Even before the U.S. government regulated migration, states did. Here's why" by Anna O. Law, the Herbert Kurz Chair in Constitutional Rights and associate professor of political science at CUNY Brooklyn College. (September 21, 2021), The Washington Post Heidi Altman, the Director of Policy at the National...
The Bump Stock Ban 15.03.2024 42:07
The supreme court listened to oral arguments on the bump stock ban and we talk about those arguments and the briefs submitted to the court. https://www.supremecourt.gov/docket/docketfiles/html/public/22-976.html https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/audio/2023/22-976
Let's Reshape Immigration Policy 08.03.2024 38:45
Today we talk about 10 points to reshape and improve immigration policy in the USA. We used the National Immigrant Justice Center's 10 points as a backdrop for our discussion: https://immigrantjustice.org/staff/blog/humane-solutions-work-10-ways-biden-administration-should-reshape-immigration-policy https://www.latimes.com/opinion/story/2024-02-29/immigration-crisis-border-migrants-united-states-m...
Talking About Religion in the Public Square--a beginning 01.03.2024 42:08
Both Craig and Cecil are religious separationists, meaning religion should have no role in government, Here they discuss several topics and cover some groundwork on the subject. Craig directed the Midwest Immigrant Rights Center for six years, the pro bono program that later became the National Immigrant Justice Center: https://immigrantjustice.org/ . If you would like more information on...
Amicus Briefs and Oral Arguments in the Colorado Ballot Case 23.02.2024 1:00:34
https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/23/23-719/299107/20240129171610494_23-719_Amici%20Brief.pdf https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/audio/2023/23-719 http://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/23/23-719/295761/20240116095552269_23-719%20tsac%20Lash.pdf http://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/23/23-719/298122/20240118165315506_Trump%20v.%20Anderson-Amici%20Brief%201.18.24.pdf http://www.supreme...
Judicial Appointments and the Controversy over the Honorable Todd E. Edelmann 16.02.2024 40:26
Articles referenced: Judicial Vacancies | United States Courts Opinion | A Republican senator smeared a Biden nominee — and Democrats cowered - The Washington Post Most of Biden's judge appointees are women, racial or ethnic minorities | Pew Research Center Senate confirms Biden's 150th judge Biden has successfully appointed 166 federal judges through January 1 of his fourth year Opinion | Bide...
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