Norm Pattis

Law and Legitimacy

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Law, politics, crime, and culture—in a word, "conflict". If you have trouble telling the good guys from the bad guys, Law and Legitimacy is your podcast. Norm Pattis is a trial and appellate lawyer focused on criminal defense and constitutional rights. Norm is also a long-time newspaper columnist and the owner of one of New England's oldest bookstores. A contrarian by nature, he believes that no group is quite so frightening as a self-righteous mob. His objective? To make you think. Welcome to Law and Legitimacy.

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Norm Pattis

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Society

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www.pattisblog.com

Latest episode

Jul 10, 2024

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LAL — Social Media & Courts: Judge 'Limits' Trump, Allen v. Nashville Shooter, More (May 9, 2023) 09.05.2023

LALiens love the 8 o'clock start time. We've got the data. Today, Norm and Mike explore America's legitimation crisis through the lens of Social Media & the Courts. Mike regards social media as a 'savage landscape' and the two use multiple ongoing cases and matters to illustrate the widening disconnect between citizen groups in the United States. In particular, the following: › Judge Juan Merchan...

LAL — Proud Boys Aftershocks, Texas Bloodshed, the J6 Case Against Trump (May 8, 2023) 08.05.2023

Norm and Mike greet each other on the other side of the conclusion in the trial of United States v. Joseph Biggs, et al. LAL is now back at its originally scheduled time of 8:00am eastern. Today: › Norm Discusses the Aftershocks of the Decision in the Proud Boys Seditious Conspiracy Trial › Did the Jury Ignore the Law? — LAL Looks at an Interview Vice Did with a Juror › Tragic Loss of Life Over th...

LAL — Jury Convicts Biggs, Proud Boys in J6 Seditious Conspiracy Trial, More (May 5, 2023) 05.05.2023

Norm is limited in what he can say here. Each of you knows that. But suffice it to say that there are serious questions to be asked, including the precedent seemingly arbitraged for the first time in relation to the government's central legal theory to its case in chief. . Thank you all for being here. America is in a crisis of legitimacy. This is an historic moment. › Guilty Verdicts in Biggs, et...

LAL — Stream of Consciousness Tucker, Hunter's Black Box, Gaetz/AOC Team Up (May 3, 2023) 03.05.2023

Day 82 of United States v. Joseph Biggs, et al., and Day 6 of jury deliberations. Roger Parloff reported via Twitter about the jury notes and questions sent to the court, which indicate that a verdict may be very close at hand. Norm updates. Today: › Judge in Hunter Biden's Child Support Trial Laments Biden's Heavily Redacted and Sealed Disclosures of His Financial Information — Sound Familiar? ›...

LAL — Mike's Definitive Statement on Bud, CT Prisons & Immigration, Death Penalty (May 2, 2023) 02.05.2023

It is Day 81. Raise your hand if you remember when Kobe dropped 81 points in a single game. Not that those two things have anything in common beyond the potential for something miraculous. Jury deliberations in United States v. Joseph Biggs, et al., enters its fifth day. Scheduling issues with various jury members portend an extension of Norm's stay in DC for another couple of weeks. . Today is on...

LAL — Eric Trump Deletes Tweets, Justice Alito Knows Identity of Dobbs Leaker, More (May 1, 2023) 01.05.2023

We have done it. We have reached Trial Day #80 in United States v. Joseph Biggs, et al., in which five (5) members of the Proud Boys are charged with seditious conspiracy in connection with the events of January 6, 2021. The jury has been deliberating since early last week. Norm has planned to be in DC for yet another week more. Today: › The Washington Post Reports that Justice Samuel Alito Claims...

LAL — Why Trump Will Be Indicted in #J6, Forestalling Cashless Commerce (April 28, 2023) 28.04.2023

It is Day 79 in United States v. Joseph Biggs, et al., the trial in which five (5) members of the Proud Boys are charged with seditious conspiracy in connection with the events of January 6, 2021. Today will mark Day 3 of jury deliberations. Will deliberations spill into next week? Today: › Norm makes the case for why President Donald Trump will be indicted for his role in the events of January 6,...

Law and Legitimacy — Tucker Speaks with Echoes of Vivek, A.I.'s "heart on my sleeve" (April 27, 2023) 27.04.2023

Day 78. The first day of jury deliberations in United States v. Joseph Biggs, et al., ended without a verdict. Norm shares some initial thoughts about the case. One of the five (5) co-defendant's, Enrique Tarrio, sat for an interview now published in Politico. Today: › Tucker Breaks His Silence via Twitter with a 2-Minute Video — What is America Building? › Generative Artificial Intelligence is Po...

Law and Legitimacy — April 26, 2023 — The Fight to Gag Trump, Kohberger, LGB Hoodies, Music Banned 26.04.2023

Gilligan has finally gotten off the island. Norm will get to leave Hotel California. The case of United States v. Joseph Biggs, et al., the trial in which five (5) members of the Proud Boys are charged with seditious conspiracy in connection with the events of January 6, 2021, has been given to the jury. Norm delivered his closing argument yesterday, the prosecution presented its rebuttal, and bot...

Law and Legitimacy — April 25, 2023 — Tucker'd Out, Lemon Zested, Fox the Behemoth, DNC Says No Primary Debates 25.04.2023

Day 76 is here. Norm is set to deliver closing arguments in United States v. Joseph Biggs, et al., the trial in which five (5) members of the Proud Boys are charged with seditious conspiracy in connection with the events of January 6, 2021. It has been a long and tortured road. Monday's proceedings were fraught, as if anyone expected anything less. Mike will overrule Norm's objection one more time...

Law and Legitimacy — April 24, 2023 — Bragg Settles, Pomerantz to Testify; the "War on Words" 24.04.2023

We're live from Day 75 on Gilligan's Island aka Hotel California aka United States v. Joseph Biggs, et al., the trial in which five (5) members of the Proud Boys are being prosecuted with charges of seditious conspiracy in connection with the events of January 6, 2021. Closing arguments are set to begin today, with Norm trending to bat cleanup on behalf of the defense. Today: › Manhattan District...

LAL Daily — April 21, 2023 — Biden's HUD Reparations, Baldwin Skates, Priests Vow Jail Time 21.04.2023

It is Day 74 on Gilligan's Island aka Hotel California aka United States v. Joseph Biggs, et al., the trial in which five (5) members of the Proud Boys are being prosecuted with charges of seditious conspiracy in connection with the events at the Capitol on January 6, 2021. The Defense has rested. Evidence is set to close. Closing arguments are anticipated to begin today.  . There is much to discu...

LAL Daily — April 20, 2023 — Babylon Bee Sues California, North Carolina is Hot Hot Hot 20.04.2023

It is an unofficial holiday for many people across the country, but over here at Law and Legitimacy we are high on life and the pursuit of a better future for our shared and sacred republic. Pace yourselves. Day 73 begins in Gilligan's Island aka Hotel California aka United States v. Joseph Biggs, et al., the trial in which five (5) members of the Proud Boys are prosecuted with charges of seditiou...

Law and Legitimacy — April 19, 2023 — Was Norm Right? Fox & Dominion Settle, Texas, Russia and Leaks 19.04.2023

Day 72. Buckle my shoe. United States v. Joseph Biggs, et al., affectionately known to LALiens as Gilligan's Island, the trial in which five (5) members of the Proud Boys are being prosecuted with charges of seditious conspiracy in connection with the events of January 6, 2021, continues apace. And it will likely continue through next week. Norm provides a brief update of how Tuesday transpired. N...

LAL Daily — April 18, 2023 — FOX & Dominion Continued, Justice Clarence Thomas, and More 18.04.2023

The sun rises on Tax Day and Day 71 of United States v. Joseph Biggs, et al., the trial in which five (5) members of the Proud Boys stand prosecuted with charges of seditious conspiracy in connection with the events of January 6, 2021. Norm expressed some belief in yesterday's stream that the trial would likely extend beyond this week and into the next. Did Monday's events do anything to change th...

LAL Daily — April 17, 2023 — FOX & Dominion Voting, Justice Clarence Thomas, and Judge Matthew Kacsmaryk 17.04.2023

Day 70! Gilligan's Island aka Hotel California aka United States v. Joseph Biggs, et al., the trial in which five (5) members of the Proud Boys are being prosecuted with charges of seditious conspiracy in connection with the events of January 6, 2021, continues apace. Norm updates the LAL viewership as to what the week may hold. Today, Norm and Mike discuss: › Dominion Voting's Defamation Lawsuit...

LAL Daily — April 14, 2023 — #AMA with Norm and Mike! 14.04.2023

Court is paused today in United States v. Joseph Biggs, et al., the trial in which five (5) members of the Proud Boys are being prosecuted with charges of seditious conspiracy in connection with the events of January 6, 2021. It seems, then, that we will be stuck on Day 69 all weekend long. Have a nice one! . Today is a special one-hour stream! This is the second installment of Law and Legitimacy'...

LAL Daily — April 13, 2023 — Religious Liberty and the Workplace; First-Grader Shoots Teacher 13.04.2023

Uh oh. Do we do it? Dare we? It is perhaps the nicest day of Gilligan's Island aka the Hotel California aka United States v. Joseph Biggs, et al., Day 69. Five (5) members of the Proud Boys are being prosecuted with charges of seditious conspiracy in connection with the events of January 6, 2021. How nice will the day be? Could we finally be seeing light at the end of the tunnel? Today, Norm and M...

LAL Daily — April 12, 2023 — Alvin Bragg Sues Jim Jordan; Daniel Perry Seeks New Trial in Texas 12.04.2023

It is Day 68 in what Norm affectionally refers to as Gilligan's Island aka the Hotel California aka United States v. Joseph Biggs, et al., the trial in which five (5) members of the Proud Boys are being prosecuted with charges of seditious conspiracy in connection with the events of January 6, 2021. Two (2) of the defendant Proud Boys have taken the stand as the trial nears its completion. Norm op...

LAL Daily — April 11, 2023 — Generation Zombie, White Collar Bullets, and Rep. Tricia Cotham 11.04.2023

It is Day 67 at the Hotel California aka Gilligan's Island aka United States v. Joseph Biggs, et al., the trial in which five (5) members of the Proud Boys are being prosecuted with charges of seditious conspiracy in connection with the events of January 6, 2021. Norm predicts that closing arguments in the trial are to occur later this week or early next week, with jury deliberations thereafter. T...

LAL Daily — April 10, 2023 — "Candy Ass" Norm's on Pomerantz's Book, and A.I. as a Threat to Objective Truth 10.04.2023

Good Morning, LALiens! We hope all who celebrated had a wonderful Easter weekend. Norm remains in our nation's capitol of Washington, D.C., providing legal defense against the criminal prosecution in United States v. Joseph Biggs, et al., the trial in which five (5) members of the Proud Boys face charges of seditious conspiracy in connection with the events of January 6, 2021. Today, the duo meet...

LAL Daily — April 7, 2023 — This Bud' for They/Them, State Politics Chaos, Life Expectancy Drops 07.04.2023

The channel is on pause at the Hotel California aka Gilligan's Island aka United States v. Joseph Biggs, et al., the trial in which five (5) members of the Proud Boys are being prosecuted with charges of seditious conspiracy in connection with the events of January 6, 2021. With the court dark until Tuesday, Norm has a few days to enjoy in the Capitol over Easter weekend. Happy Good Friday to you...

LAL Daily — April 6, 2023 — Prof. Jonathan Turley and #ChatGPT and More 06.04.2023

It is Day 65 at the Hotel California aka Gilligan's Island aka the Most Important Trial of the Century in which five (5) members of the Proud Boys stand accused of seditious conspiracy in connection with the events of January 6, 2021 — United States v. Joseph Biggs, et al. There is light at the end of the tunnel, but the court may be sealing it. Today, Norm and Mike focus on a couple of items that...

LAL Daily — April 5, 2023 — Trump Indictment Published, Mar-a-Lago Speech, Declining Institutional Legitimacy 05.04.2023

It is Day 64 at the Hotel California aka Gilligan's Island aka the Most Important Trial of the Century in which five (5) members of the Proud Boys stand accused of seditious conspiracy in connection with the events of January 6, 2021 — United States v. Joseph Biggs, et al. Yesterday saw a significant portion of the day covered by sealed proceedings. Norm updates. Today, Norm and Mike have a lot on...

LAL Daily — April 4, 2023 — The Bill of Rights 'Trumps' the Separation of Powers 04.04.2023

It is Day 63 at the Hotel California aka Gilligan's Island aka the Most Important Trial of the Century in which five (5) members of the Proud Boys stand accused of seditious conspiracy in connection with the events of January 6, 2021 — United States v. Joseph Biggs, et al. Norm updates. Today: › The Case Against a Gag Order on President Donald Trump — the American Constitution › False Allegations...

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