Kathy & Cathy

Killer Destinations

Comedy EN ↓ 272 episodes

*Just like you, we’re obsessed with true crime. We’re also lifelong friends. And it’s this combination that drives our podcast. We tell true crime stories from their unexpected beginnings to their devastating ends, and dive deep into all the details you want to know about. We do intersperse the occasional humor and banter, and our listeners tell us it makes them feel like they’re hanging out with their friends. But, we never forget that we’re talking about real people and real families. Listen to a new episode every Tuesday!*

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Kathy & Cathy

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Comedy

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redcircle.com

Latest episode

Jul 7, 2026

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Episodes

183. THE BIGGEST LIE: Colleen Stan - Red Bluff, CA 1977 04.03.2025

In 1977, 20-year-old Colleen Stan planned to travel 400 miles to surprise a close friend on her birthday. It was the 1970s – lava lamps, bell bottoms and hitchhiking were all the rage. And the choice Colleen made to hitchhike, changed her life forever. Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

182. TOO MANY SECRETS: Carol Stuart - Boston, MA 1989 25.02.2025

In 1989, Chuck and Carol Stuart had a wonderful life. They’d been married for four years, were successful in their careers and were expecting a baby in just a couple of months. Until the tragic night in October that changed everything. Within a couple of months police had arrested two suspects, but it wasn’t until the beginning of the new year that the real perpetrator was revealed. Advertising In...

181. THE NAPA MURDERS: Leslie Mazzara & Adriane Insogna - Napa, CA 2004 18.02.2025

In 2004, two families received tragic news. Their daughters had been brutally attacked in the middle of the night, and neither survived. The community was shocked and scared… were they next? But as the case was about to go cold, police released a piece of evidence that they hoped would result in someone turning in the perpetrator. And what came next surprised everyone. Advertising Inquiries: https...

180. A QUESTION OF INTEGRITY: Yvonne "Missy" Woods - Boulder, CO 11.02.2025

In 1994, a well-known member of the Boulder community lost his life after answering a knock at his door. Almost two decades would pass before new DNA technology was used to convict a man named Michael Clark for the crime. However, at the end of 2024, a scandal at the Colorado Bureau of Investigation was made public – and one of their most respected DNA analysts, Yvonne “Missy” Woods, was accused o...

BONUS EPISODE: Christy Giles & Hilda Marcela Cabrales-Arzola UPDATE 05.02.2025

More than three years after the horrific murders of the two young women in Los Angeles, a California jury has reached a verdict on their accused killer. Listen for all the latest details. Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

179. JUSTICE DENIED: Richard Lapointe - Manchester, CT 1987 04.02.2025

In 1987, the brutal death of the family matriarch fractured the family. Nobody could’ve anticipated just how long it would take – or what it would look like – when justice was finally served. Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

178. DOUBLE JEOPARDY: Brenda Sue Schaefer - Louisville, KY 1988 28.01.2025

In 1988, Brenda Schaefer had a bright future ahead of her. She was engaged, had a job she loved and was part of a very close-knit family. When she suddenly disappeared, her family was frantic to find her… because this wasn’t the first time the family faced tragedy. Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

177. A MEMBER OF THE JURY: Timothy Atkins - Venice, CA 1985 21.01.2025

In the early morning hours of New Year’s Day 1985, husband and father Vicente Gonzales was targeted by gang members and lost his life in a brutal attack. The attackers were quickly arrested, but it still took five days of deliberations to reach a verdict. AND WE HAVE ONE OF THE JURORS AS A GUEST ON OUR PODCAST! Listen for all the behind-the-scenes details about the trial… and what happened afterwa...

176. FRIEND OR FOE? Diane Hank - Portland, OR 1954 14.01.2025

In 1954, 16-year-old Diane Hank wasn’t exactly a typical teenager. She’d just had to change schools after having a baby, and her closest friends were the couple in their early 20s whom she babysat for. Her life was a very small circle, which was why her mom was shocked when she was told her daughter had skipped school. And that shock resonated even more when she learned the secrets that Diane had...

175. THE CIRCLEVILLE LETTERS: Circleville, OH 1977 07.01.2025

The first letter arrived in Mary Gillispie’s mailbox in spring 1977 and threatened to expose an affair. Then more letters began arriving, not just addressed to Mary, but also to her husband Ron and hundreds of other residents who were accused of illegal or illicit behavior. This went on for years before someone was arrested. But was it the letter writer, or was it a set up? Advertising Inquiries:...

174. THE BIKE PATH KILLER: Joan Diver - Buffalo, NY 2006 31.12.2024

Whenever Joan Diver had a few minutes away from her busy life as a mom of four, she’d run on one of Buffalo’s bike path trails. But one day in 2006, she never returned home. Tragically, her body was found two days later underneath some heavy brush alongside the trail. Sketches were released, but did it lead them to her killer, or was it someone they never suspected? Advertising Inquiries: https://...

173. JAY COOK & TANYA VAN CUYLENBORG: Saanich, British Columbia 1987 24.12.2024

In order to spend more time with our families at Christmas, this is the one time each year that we do a repeat of an episode. Kathy chose the episodes for our first two years, so this year Cathy chose - and she went with Episode 29 - the first case in the US that used genetic genealogy to find the perpetrator and went to trial, resulting in a conviction. Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.co...

172. JONBENET RAMSEY: Boulder, CO 1996 17.12.2024

The day after Christmas 1996, John and Patsy Ramsey woke up to their worst nightmare… their six-year-old daughter JonBenét was gone. When the little girl’s body was found, detectives immediately believed that the parents were responsible. But almost 30 years later, the case remains unsolved. The world wants to know… who killed JonBenét Ramsey??? Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands...

171. KEEP YOUR CHILDREN CLOSE: Alison Chadwick - Isleworth, England 1974 10.12.2024

10-year-old Alison Chadwick grew up in a tight-knit community just outside of London, England. Her family and friends lived close by and kids were always playing in the street together. Alison left home one morning to go to a friend's house, but never returned. The police search was immediate and far reaching, but no one had seen anything... it was like she just disappeared off the face of the...

170. THE TRUE STORY BEHIND "THE BLOODING": Leicestershire County, England 1986 03.12.2024

In the mid-1980s, the murders of two teenage girls in England – Lynda Mann and Dawn Ashworth – shook their community and the country. No one could’ve predicted that a scientific breakthrough to catch their killer would forever change how killers were caught. Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

169. JUSTICE FOR DAN: Dan Markel - Tallahassee, FL 2014 26.11.2024

In 2014, Dan Markel was well-regarded and admired in the Florida legal community and had a dream job as a professor at Florida State. To him, however, his most important role was that of father, and he adored his two young sons. But how did a man loved by his family and friends and respected by his community wind up the target of a hit? Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands Privacy &...

168. A MURDEROUS RAGE: Anthony Garcia - Omaha, NE 2008 19.11.2024

In 2008, 11-year-old Tom Hunter and the family’s housecleaner were found brutally murdered in the family home. Despite a massive search by police, the case soon went cold. Five years later, it looked like the killer had struck again. But what could have connected these two sets of murders? And why would a killer wait five years between attacks? Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands P...

167. THE OKLAHOMA CITY BOMBING: Oklahoma City, OK 1995 12.11.2024

In 1995, the deadliest act of domestic terrorism in the United States took place in Oklahoma City. 168 people were killed, including 19 children, 219 children lost at least one parent and 30 children were orphaned. Several hundred more were injured. When the tragedy occurred, the people of Oklahoma banded together in a community-wide display of spontaneous altruism – giving until there was no more...

166. TAKE ME OUT TO THE BALLGAME: Juan Catalan - San Fernando Valley, CA 2003 05.11.2024

In 2003, tragedy struck the Puebla family when their 16-year-old daughter was killed in front of her house. Within a few months, police arrested a man they believed committed the crime. But he swore he had an alibi. So, what do the 2024 World Series Champion L.A. Dodgers and "Curb Your Enthusiasm" have to do with this case? Everything! Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands Pr...

165. HIGHWAY TO HELL: Kim Long - Corona, CA 2003 29.10.2024

In 2003, after first liking each other in middle school, Kim Long and Ozzy Conde had re-connected and were building a life together. But after a day of barhopping and fighting, Kim came home to find Ozzy deceased. She was the most logical suspect... but did she really do it? Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

164. IT WAS ALL A FACADE: Katrina Smith - Rockford, IL 2012 22.10.2024

One morning in October 2012, Katrina Smith’s husband and family were alerted that she hadn’t shown up for work that day. That never happened, and immediately they were all on alert and anxious to find her. When their fears turned into reality and their worst nightmares came true, detectives had several people to investigate, including an admitted stalker and possibly spurned paramour. Advertising...

163. THE MURDER THAT INSPIRED TWIN PEAKS: Hazel Drew - Sand Lake, NY 1908 15.10.2024

In 1908, the body of 20-year-old Hazel Drew was found floating in Teal’s Pond in Sand Lake, NY. A coroner’s inquest determined that she’d died before her body was left in the pond… but a team of 12 detectives were unable to determine whodunnit. This is the murder that inspired the TV show Twin Peaks… and two superfans may have finally solved the case. Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/b...

162. RESURRECTING THE PAST: Lynne Knight - Torrance, CA 1979 08.10.2024

Canadian Lynne Knight was outgoing, popular and loved by everyone. But despite being known by many, no one knew what happened in her final moments... And it would take police more than 3 decades to find the answers they’d been searching for. Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

161. ACCIDENT OR MURDER?: Rinette Riella Bergna - Incline Village, NV 1998 01.10.2024

Rinette Riella Bergna had just arrived home after six weeks in Italy as part of her job as an international tour guide. Her husband Peter picked her up and took her to one of their favorite spots near Lake Tahoe to look at the lights in the city below. But on their way, tragedy struck. Their truck’s brakes failed, and it plowed through a guard rail before tumbling down the mountain. But was it an...

160. TOO GOOD TO PASS UP: Kristi Johnson - Hollywood Hills, CA 2003 24.09.2024

In 2003, Kristi Johnson left her hometown of Holland, Michigan to seek fame and fortune in Hollywood. She was paying her dues, working in makeup and production as she waited for her big break. And then... it came. She met a man casting the newest James Bond movie and it seemed too good to be true. Tragically, it was. Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands Privacy & Opt-Out: https://re...

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