Jump Associates
Jump Podcast
The Jump Podcast is the conversation for you, our tribe of future-focused business leaders. Hosts Dev Patnaik and Michelle Loret de Mola explore the most pressing issues in business strategy, culture, and leadership, with insights that help even the most seasoned strategists reframe how to lead and how to plan for What's Next. From interviews with thought leaders to Headlines from the Future , The Jump Podcast aims to widen your perspective to plan for change before the ground shifts beneath your feet.
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Jul 6, 2026
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Episodes
Pivoting to the Future: A Conversation with Ross Rosenberg of Magic Leap 03.04.2025 45:56
In this episode of the Jump Podcast, Michelle Loret de Mola and Dev Patnaik sit down with Ross Rosenberg, CEO of Magic Leap, to unpack the future of augmented reality and how a startup can outmaneuver tech giants. Ross shares Magic Leap’s evolution from consumer-focused AR to precision-driven B2B applications—like spinal surgery—and its bold pivot back toward consumer markets, now fueled by the ri...
DEI Is Dead: Get Ready for Diversity 21.03.2025 45:42
In this episode of The Jump Podcast, Michelle Loret de Mola and Dev Patnaik dive headfirst into the DEI discussionand why so many companies are getting it wrong. From major brands walking back diversity initiatives to activist investors applying pressure, the duo unpacks what’s performative, what’s purposeful, and what actually drives business success. They spotlight smart strategies from companie...
The Five Big Things: Finding Focus in a Chaotic 2025 21.03.2025 40:55
Ever feel like your to-do list is longer than a CVS receipt? You’re not alone. In this episode, Michelle Loret de Mola and Dev Patnaik break down why leaders struggle to focus and how narrowing down to just five key priorities can be a game-changer. They discuss why leaders need to actually decide what matters, how Sam Altman and Brian Chesky cut through the noise, and why the Broccoli family’s Ja...
Getting Fracked: How Even Great Businesses Fall Behind 03.03.2025 47:38
Even great businesses can get fracked. In this episode, Michelle Loret de Mola and Dev Patnaik break down why even well-run companies can get blindsided by external forces beyond their control. They introduce the "Fracked List," a framework categorizing companies into four groups: the totally fracked, those getting fracked, the ones fighting fracking, and—most importantly—the frackers themselves....
Separating the Signal from the Noise 03.03.2025 43:20
In this season opener, Michelle Loret de Mola and Dev Patnaik explore the critical challenge of distinguishing between fleeting "moments" and long-term "momentum" in business and life. From electric vehicle adoption to AI’s evolving impact on the workforce, they discuss how leaders can resist the distractions of short-term noise and focus on big-picture trends shaping the future. With insights on...
The Future is Here: Top Headlines from 2024 21.12.2024 53:00
It’s a bird, it’s a plane…it’s the end of 2024! In this special episode of the Jump Podcast, Dev and Michelle reminisce on the year we’ve had. And what a year it has been! From de-globalization to UFO sightings, from AI agents reshaping consumer behavior to GLP-1 drugs revolutionizing health habits, the duo unpacks the seismic shifts defining our present and shaping our future. They explore game-c...
Building Leadership Resilience in Today’s World 05.12.2024 45:54
Leadership is facing a slow-motion train wreck. In this episode, Michelle Loret de Mola and Dev Patnaik break down why burnout is skyrocketing among senior leaders and why organizations are struggling to prepare their top talent for the challenges ahead. They explore the differences between learning and growth, draw stories from Harvard to West Point, and discuss why building leadership isn't abou...
Staying on the Right Side of History 15.11.2024 45:50
In this episode of the Jump Podcast, Michelle Loret de Mola and Dev Patnaik discuss the challenge of keeping businesses on the “right side of history.” Through lively examples—from the decline of cigarette sales and the rise of cannabis to the shift toward healthier food choices—they explore how companies must anticipate societal changes rather than merely adapt to them. Michelle and Dev also shar...
Only the Paranoid Survive: Knowing Your Doomsday Scenario 04.11.2024 39:41
In this episode, Michelle Loret de Mola and Dev Patnaik delve into the importance of knowing your business's “doomsday scenario.” They explore how companies like Google and Universal Music Group tackle their biggest existential threats, whether from AI disruption, regulatory pressures, or market changes. They reflect on the insights of industry leaders, including Andy Grove’s timeless mantra, “Onl...
What Tesla Missed: Successful Innovation Needs Trust 18.10.2024 40:52
In this episode, Michelle Loret de Mola and Dev Patnaik break down the latest from Tesla’s We, Robot event and what it reveals about innovation in today’s world. From robo-taxis to humanoid robots that could babysit your kids, they discuss why so many are skeptical of Elon Musk's grand visions. The conversation centers around a key question: Can innovation succeed without trust? Turns out, whether...
Sustainability: A Conversation with Ryan Baum 04.10.2024 39:33
In today’s business landscape, sustainability often gets framed as a sacrifice, but Ryan Baum is here to flip that script. In this episode, Michelle and Dev sit down with Ryan, a partner at Jump Associates, to explore how companies can make a good sustainability strategy work for their bottom line. From hitting big environmental targets to boosting market share, Ryan shows how the right mindset ca...
Jump Offsite Takeaways - Live from the Carneros 20.09.2024 31:35
“Jump Offsite, this is Dev Patnaik with Michelle Loret de Mola, can you hear me...?" In this special episode of the Jump Podcast, recorded live from the Carneros Resort in Napa Valley, California, Dev and Michelle bring the energy from our three unforgettable days together. If you made it out to Napa, consider this a little keepsake from our time together, and if you couldn’t make it, this is a li...
Biomimicry: A Conversation with Janine Benyus 04.09.2024 45:42
As our society pushes for sustainable development, the ancient strategies of the natural world offer a fresh perspective on modern innovation. In this episode, Michelle and Dev dive into the world of biomimicry with Janine Benyus, cofounder of the Biomimicry Institute. The conversation explores how nature’s 3.8 billion years of evolution offer a treasure trove of innovative solutions for modern ch...
AI Changing Workflows: A Conversation with Ian Beacraft 08.08.2024 48:21
As AI continues to shape the future of industries around the globe, understanding its practical applications is essential. In this episode, Michelle and Dev welcome Ian Beacraft, renowned futurist and CEO of Signal and Cypher, to discuss the transformative power of AI in modern workflows. Ian shares how companies can strategically adopt AI to enhance efficiency and drive innovation. The conversati...
Fighting Friction: A Conversation with Bob Sutton 25.07.2024 45:09
Friction is a natural part of any organization, but it’s not necessarily a beneficial one. As organizations grow to tackle more complexity, it is important for leaders to identify and minimize unnecessary friction while fostering an environment where productive friction can thrive. In this episode, Michelle and Dev welcome Stanford professor Bob Sutton to explore his latest work, "The Friction Pro...
A Real Approach to Artificial Intelligence 12.07.2024 39:52
Since ChatGPT's release in November 2022, AI has revolutionized the world, driving unprecedented innovation across industries and transforming how businesses operate. Companies are leveraging AI for everything from creating synthetic audiences for real-time insights to assisting engineers with coding and predicting customer behavior for better retention. Even traditionally cautious sectors like fi...
Microtribes: Navigating Growth in a Fragmented Market 27.06.2024 38:08
Across industries, execs are racing to drive consumer demand. Some are looking to spur enough product innovation to meet their ambitious growth goals. Others are building new loyalty programs that will keep consumers coming back for more. B2B companies are focusing on new sales incentive programs to increase their numbers. But igniting outsize growth isn’t simply about drumming up mass demand. And...
After Me, the Flood: Exec Succession Planning 07.06.2024 44:59
Jamie Dimon recently announced that he plans to step down from his role as CEO of JPMorgan within the next five years. In this episode, Michelle and Dev dive into Dimon's retirement plans, the implications for JPMorgan, and how future-focused leaders can prepare for their own succession. This conversation is packed with insights on leadership transitions, the challenges of succession planning in a...
Driving Customer Loyalty by Rethinking Customer Value 24.05.2024 46:46
Starbucks became a gold standard in the beverage industry for not only selling creative drinks that people loved, but for creating a “third place” for people to connect. Recent earnings calls, though, reflect the company’s struggles with retaining customers amid inflation. In this episode, Dev and Michelle discuss how Starbucks—and companies across industries—can leverage their strengths to meet a...
When to Double Down and When to Walk Away 16.05.2024 38:37
Walmart’s decision to close all of its medical clinics can seem like a bad omen for other disruptors in the primary care space, like Walgreens. At the same time, Amazon is doubling down on its investment in healthcare. Is Walmart doing the right thing for its future? In this episode, Dev and Michelle discuss how to evaluate a future-focused opportunity and decide when it’s right to walk away or to...
When Is It Okay to Fake It in Innovation? 02.05.2024 32:09
Innovation has a long and complicated relationship with the “fake it until you make it” mindset. It’s common in the startup world to use unscalable, manual techniques to test demand for a product or service—and then automate processes later on. In this episode, Dev and Michelle discuss notable companies that have employed this strategy to very different outcomes, from Zappos to Amazon and Theranos...
Rethinking Your Innovation Strategy 16.04.2024 45:49
While most large companies have an established approach to innovation, few have one that really works–or one that will get them to their next phase of growth. In this episode, Dev and Michelle discuss how leaders can fundamentally rethink their innovation strategy based on their unique strengths and limitations. You can read more about this in Dev’s article on jumpassociates.com https://www.jump...
Learning from the Ben & Jerry’s x Unilever Split 04.04.2024 41:06
Unilever’s decision to spin off Ben & Jerry’s along with its ice cream business has fed the misconception of “Go woke and go broke.” The real lesson to take away from the split is the opposite—that purpose pays—and it’s more important than ever to be future-focused to grow. You can read more about this in Dev’s article on Jumpassociates.com: https://www.jumpassociates.com/the-real-lesson-fr...
Getting Ready for the Next Phase of Growth 27.03.2024 38:44
Most leaders get that the world is changing. There may even be an opportunity to drive big growth. They know they need to focus on the future. The bad news is that most leaders won’t do that. Regardless of the reality, the vast majority of leaders will continue to manage for today. And that’s too bad because this failure to focus on the future is the single biggest reason most companies fall into...
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