Joe Carlsmith
Joe Carlsmith Audio
Audio versions of essays by Joe Carlsmith. Philosophy, futurism, and other topics. Text versions at joecarlsmith.com.
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Mar 19, 2026
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An even deeper atheism 11.01.2024 25:12
Who isn't a paperclipper? Text version here: https://joecarlsmith.com/2024/01/11/an-even-deeper-atheism This essay is part of a series I'm calling "Otherness and control in the age of AGI." I'm hoping that individual essays can be read fairly well on their own, but see here for brief summaries of the essays that have been released thus far: https://joecarlsmith.com/2024/01...
Does AI risk "other" the AIs? 09.01.2024 13:15
Examining Robin Hanson's critique of the AI risk discourse. Text version here: https://joecarlsmith.com/2024/01/09/does-ai-risk-other-the-ais This essay is part of a series of essays called "Otherness and control in the age of AGI." I'm hoping the individual essays can be read fairly well on their own, but see here for brief summaries of the essays that have been released thus...
When "yang" goes wrong 08.01.2024 21:32
On the connection between deep atheism and seeking control. Text version here: https://joecarlsmith.com/2024/01/08/when-yang-goes-wrong This essay is part of a series of essays called "Otherness and control in the age of AGI." I'm hoping the individual essays can be read fairly well on their own, but see here for brief summaries of the essays that have been released thus far: https...
Deep atheism and AI risk 04.01.2024 46:59
On a certain kind of fundamental mistrust towards Nature. Text version here: https://joecarlsmith.com/2024/01/04/deep-atheism-and-ai-risk This is the second essay in my series “Otherness and control in the age of AGI. I’m hoping that the individual essays can be read fairly well on their own, but see here for brief summaries of the essays released thus far: https://joecarlsmith.com/2024/01/02/oth...
Gentleness and the artificial Other 02.01.2024 22:39
AIs as fellow creatures. And on getting eaten. Link: https://joecarlsmith.com/2024/01/02/gentleness-and-the-artificial-other This is the first essay in a series of essays that I’m calling “Otherness and control in the age of AGI.” See here for more about the series as a whole: https://joecarlsmith.com/2024/01/02/otherness-and-control-in-the-age-of-agi.
In search of benevolence (or: what should you get Clippy for Christmas?) 27.12.2023 52:52
What is altruism towards a paperclipper? Can you paint with all the colors of the wind at once? (This is a recording of an essay originally published in 2021. Text here: https://joecarlsmith.com/2021/07/19/in-search-of-benevolence-or-what-should-you-get-clippy-for-christmas)
Is scheming more likely if you train models to have long-term goals? (Sections 2.2.4.1-2.2.4.2 of "Scheming AIs") 16.11.2023 9:01
This is sections 2.2.4.1-2.2.4.2 of my report “Scheming AIs: Will AIs fake alignment during training in order to get power?” Text of the report here: https://arxiv.org/abs/2311.08379 Summary of the report here: https://joecarlsmith.com/2023/11/15/new-report-scheming-ais-will-ais-fake-alignment-during-training-in-order-to-get-power Audio summary here: https://joecarlsmithaudio.buzzsprout.com/2...
How useful for alignment-relevant work are AIs with short-term goals? (Section 2.2.4.3 of "Scheming AIs") 16.11.2023 9:21
This is section 2.2.4.3 of my report “Scheming AIs: Will AIs fake alignment during training in order to get power?” Text of the report here: https://arxiv.org/abs/2311.08379 Summary of the report here: https://joecarlsmith.com/2023/11/15/new-report-scheming-ais-will-ais-fake-alignment-during-training-in-order-to-get-power Audio summary here: https://joecarlsmithaudio.buzzsprout.com/2034731/13...
The goal-guarding hypothesis (Section 2.3.1.1 of "Scheming AIs") 16.11.2023 19:11
This is section 2.3.1.1 of my report “Scheming AIs: Will AIs fake alignment during training in order to get power?” Text of the report here: https://arxiv.org/abs/2311.08379 Summary of the report here: https://joecarlsmith.com/2023/11/15/new-report-scheming-ais-will-ais-fake-alignment-during-training-in-order-to-get-power Audio summary here: https://joecarlsmithaudio.buzzsprout.com/2034731/13...
Does scheming lead to adequate future empowerment? (Section 2.3.1.2 of "Scheming AIs") 16.11.2023 22:54
This is section 2.3.1.2 of my report “Scheming AIs: Will AIs fake alignment during training in order to get power?” Text of the report here: https://arxiv.org/abs/2311.08379 Summary of the report here: https://joecarlsmith.com/2023/11/15/new-report-scheming-ais-will-ais-fake-alignment-during-training-in-order-to-get-power Audio summary here: https://joecarlsmithaudio.buzzsprout.com/2034731/13...
Non-classic stories about scheming (Section 2.3.2 of "Scheming AIs") 16.11.2023 24:34
This is section 2.3.2 of my report “Scheming AIs: Will AIs fake alignment during training in order to get power?” Text of the report here: https://arxiv.org/abs/2311.08379 Summary of the report here: https://joecarlsmith.com/2023/11/15/new-report-scheming-ais-will-ais-fake-alignment-during-training-in-order-to-get-power Audio summary here: https://joecarlsmithaudio.buzzsprout.com/2034731/1396...
Arguments for/against scheming that focus on the path SGD takes (Section 3 of "Scheming AIs") 16.11.2023 29:03
This is section 3 of my report “Scheming AIs: Will AIs fake alignment during training in order to get power?” Text of the report here: https://arxiv.org/abs/2311.08379 Summary of the report here: https://joecarlsmith.com/2023/11/15/new-report-scheming-ais-will-ais-fake-alignment-during-training-in-order-to-get-power Audio summary here: https://joecarlsmithaudio.buzzsprout.com/2034731/13969977...
The counting argument for scheming (Sections 4.1 and 4.2 of "Scheming AIs") 16.11.2023 10:40
This is sections 4.1 and 4.2 of my report “Scheming AIs: Will AIs fake alignment during training in order to get power?” Text of the report here: https://arxiv.org/abs/2311.08379 Summary of the report here: https://joecarlsmith.com/2023/11/15/new-report-scheming-ais-will-ais-fake-alignment-during-training-in-order-to-get-power Audio summary here: https://joecarlsmithaudio.buzzsprout.com/20347...
Simplicity arguments for scheming (Section 4.3 of "Scheming AIs") 16.11.2023 19:37
This is section 4.3 of my report “Scheming AIs: Will AIs fake alignment during training in order to get power?” Text of the report here: https://arxiv.org/abs/2311.08379 Summary of the report here: https://joecarlsmith.com/2023/11/15/new-report-scheming-ais-will-ais-fake-alignment-during-training-in-order-to-get-power Audio summary here: https://joecarlsmithaudio.buzzsprout.com/2034731/139699...
Speed arguments against scheming (Section 4.4-4.7 of "Scheming AIs") 16.11.2023 15:19
This is section 4.4 through 4.7 of my report “Scheming AIs: Will AIs fake alignment during training in order to get power?” Text of the report here: https://arxiv.org/abs/2311.08379 Summary of the report here: https://joecarlsmith.com/2023/11/15/new-report-scheming-ais-will-ais-fake-alignment-during-training-in-order-to-get-power Audio summary here: https://joecarlsmithaudio.buzzsprout.com/20...
Summing up "Scheming AIs" (Section 5) 16.11.2023 15:46
This is section 5 of my report “Scheming AIs: Will AIs fake alignment during training in order to get power?” Text of the report here: https://arxiv.org/abs/2311.08379 Summary of the report here: https://joecarlsmith.com/2023/11/15/new-report-scheming-ais-will-ais-fake-alignment-during-training-in-order-to-get-power Audio summary here: https://joecarlsmithaudio.buzzsprout.com/2034731/13969977...
Empirical work that might shed light on scheming (Section 6 of "Scheming AIs") 16.11.2023 28:00
This is section 6 of my report “Scheming AIs: Will AIs fake alignment during training in order to get power?” Text of the report here: https://arxiv.org/abs/2311.08379 Summary of the report here: https://joecarlsmith.com/2023/11/15/new-report-scheming-ais-will-ais-fake-alignment-during-training-in-order-to-get-power Audio summary here: https://joecarlsmithaudio.buzzsprout.com/2034731/13969977...
Varieties of fake alignment (Section 1.1 of "Scheming AIs") 16.11.2023 17:54
This is section 1.1 of my report “Scheming AIs: Will AIs fake alignment during training in order to get power?” Text of the report here: https://arxiv.org/abs/2311.08379 Summary of the report here: https://joecarlsmith.com/2023/11/15/new-report-scheming-ais-will-ais-fake-alignment-during-training-in-order-to-get-power Audio summary here: https://joecarlsmithaudio.buzzsprout.com/2034731/139699...
A taxonomy of non-schemer models (Section 1.2 of "Scheming AIs") 16.11.2023 11:20
This is section 1.2 of my report “Scheming AIs: Will AIs fake alignment during training in order to get power?” Text of the report here: https://arxiv.org/abs/2311.08379 Summary of the report here: https://joecarlsmith.com/2023/11/15/new-report-scheming-ais-will-ais-fake-alignment-during-training-in-order-to-get-power Audio summary here: https://joecarlsmithaudio.buzzsprout.com/2034731/139699...
Why focus on schemers in particular? (Sections 1.3-1.4 of "Scheming AIs") 16.11.2023 31:17
This is sections 1.3-1.4 of my report “Scheming AIs: Will AIs fake alignment during training in order to get power?” Text of the report here: https://arxiv.org/abs/2311.08379 Summary of the report here: https://joecarlsmith.com/2023/11/15/new-report-scheming-ais-will-ais-fake-alignment-during-training-in-order-to-get-power Audio summary here: https://joecarlsmithaudio.buzzsprout.com/2034731/1...
On "slack" in training (Section 1.5 of "Scheming AIs") 16.11.2023 7:12
This is section 1.5 of my report “Scheming AIs: Will AIs fake alignment during training in order to get power?” Text of the report here: https://arxiv.org/abs/2311.08379 Summary of the report here: https://joecarlsmith.com/2023/11/15/new-report-scheming-ais-will-ais-fake-alignment-during-training-in-order-to-get-power Audio summary here: https://joecarlsmithaudio.buzzsprout.com/2034731/139699...
Situational awareness (Section 2.1 of "Scheming AIs") 16.11.2023 9:27
This is section 2.1 of my report “Scheming AIs: Will AIs fake alignment during training in order to get power?” Text of the report here: https://arxiv.org/abs/2311.08379 Summary of the report here: https://joecarlsmith.com/2023/11/15/new-report-scheming-ais-will-ais-fake-alignment-during-training-in-order-to-get-power Audio summary here: https://joecarlsmithaudio.buzzsprout.com/2034731/139699...
Two concepts of an "episode" (Section 2.2.1 of "Scheming AIs") 16.11.2023 12:08
This is section 2.2.1 of my report “Scheming AIs: Will AIs fake alignment during training in order to get power?” Text of the report here: https://arxiv.org/abs/2311.08379 Summary of the report here: https://joecarlsmith.com/2023/11/15/new-report-scheming-ais-will-ais-fake-alignment-during-training-in-order-to-get-power Audio summary here: https://joecarlsmithaudio.buzzsprout.com/2034731/1396...
Two sources of beyond-episode goals (Section 2.2.2 of "Scheming AIs") 16.11.2023 21:25
This is section 2.2.2 of my report “Scheming AIs: Will AIs fake alignment during training in order to get power?” Text of the report here: https://arxiv.org/abs/2311.08379 Summary of the report here: https://joecarlsmith.com/2023/11/15/new-report-scheming-ais-will-ais-fake-alignment-during-training-in-order-to-get-power Audio summary here: https://joecarlsmithaudio.buzzsprout.com/2034731/1396...
"Clean" vs. "messy" goal-directedness (Section 2.2.3 of "Scheming AIs") 16.11.2023 16:44
This is section 2.2.3 of my report “Scheming AIs: Will AIs fake alignment during training in order to get power?” Text of the report here: https://arxiv.org/abs/2311.08379 Summary of the report here: https://joecarlsmith.com/2023/11/15/new-report-scheming-ais-will-ais-fake-alignment-during-training-in-order-to-get-power Audio summary here: https://joecarlsmithaudio.buzzsprout.com/2034731/1396...
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