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Jesuitical
Jesuitical is a podcast from America Media for saints and sinners. Tune in every week for honest conversations about the Catholic Church and our world today—sometimes over drinks. Hosted by Ashley McKinless and Zac Davis. AMDG
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Jun 25, 2026
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Should Catholics be vegetarians? (Also, should Nancy Pelosi have been denied Communion?) 03.06.2022 47:37
If we are what we eat, how could our consumption habits not be morally fraught? This week’s guest, Robert Cruz, believes they are, and he wants Catholics to be more intentional about what goes on their dinner plates. Working in the meat department of his local grocery store opened Robert’s eyes to the way meat is processed, marketed and sold—and inspired him to start a small regenerative farm on h...
Sad, tired and angry: America’s endless gun debate 27.05.2022 30:01
This week, an 18-year-old in Uvalde, Tex., killed 19 children and two teachers at Robb Elementary School. The massacre came less than two weeks after a white supremacist killed 10 people at a supermarket in a majority-Black neighborhood of Buffalo, N.Y. We’ve been here before. This happens all the time in America. And it feels like we have the same reactions, the same conversations, read the same...
What young people need from the Catholic Church 20.05.2022 51:11
The Covid-19 pandemic disrupted nearly every aspect of our lives, and our religious practices were no exception. How this period of uncertainty affected the spiritual lives of young people is the subject Springtide Research Institute’s latest report, “The State of Religion & Young People 2021.” We talk with Springtide’s executive director, Dr. Josh Packard, about why young people have lost faith i...
Catholic wisdom from Jane Austen, a cardinal arrested in Hong Kong, and altar serving as an adult 13.05.2022 55:59
On the surface, Jane Austen’s classic novels like Pride and Prejudice and Emma might seem to be about courtship and marriage, manners and the social hierarchies of Regency England. But while weddings and ballrooms abound in her books, so do lessons about how to live a virtuous life. This week on Jesuitical, we speak with Haley Stewart, a self-described Jane Austen evangelist and the author of the...
If the Catholic Church is pro-life, why is its maternity leave so bad? 06.05.2022 52:17
Last month, FemCatholic published an investigation on the maternity leave policies at diocesan offices around the United States. What they found wasn’t flattering. Two of the report’s authors, Kelly Sankowski and Renée Roden, join the show this week to talk about their findings. During Signs of the Times, Ashley and Zac are joined by Gloria Purvis to give their off-the-cuff reactions to the leake...
The church exists to evangelize. So why are most Catholics bad at it? 29.04.2022 48:28
At a time when young people are leaving the Catholic Church, and those who remain are less likely to attend Mass, evangelizing may not seem like a top priority. It can be tempting for Catholic leaders to think: We need to stop the internal bleeding first, then we can worry about the rest of the world. Bishop William Wack disagrees: In every age and place, Catholics are called to “make disciples of...
These young Catholics told Pope Francis how they feel about climate change–and he listened. 22.04.2022 54:07
If you had a chance to ask Pope Francis one question, what would it be? That was not a hypothetical question for this week’s guests. Emily Burke and Henry Glynn are two of the students who were selected to take part in “Building Bridges North-South: A Synodal Encounter Between Pope Francis and University Students,” hosted by Loyola University Chicago. The conversation centered on migration, and Em...
Life as a married Catholic priest and why most preaching is terrible 08.04.2022 51:14
Father Joshua Whitfield is a priest of the Diocese of Dallas and the author of The Crisis of Bad Preaching. He’s also a married man and a father of six. This week, Father Joshua joins Ashley and Zac to talk about his vocation as a husband, father and father, why most Catholic homilies are just plain awful and why he still has hope for the upcoming synod on synodality. Ashley and Zac also discuss a...
We need to talk about sex 01.04.2022 36:56
The sexual revolution and second-wave feminism were supposed to empower women in society—and in the bedroom. So why are so many millennial women miserable when it comes to their dating and sex lives? Even after the #MeToo movement enshrined “enthusiastic consent” as the baseline requirement for sexual encounters, women (and men) continue to have sex they don’t really want and don’t enjoy. This we...
Nukes, contemplation and vocation: An introduction to Thomas Merton for young Catholics 25.03.2022 53:26
During his historic address to a joint session of Congress in 2015, Pope Francis raised up four virtuous Americans as models of citizenship: Abraham Lincoln, Martin Luther King Jr., Dorothy Day and Thomas Merton. That last name was certainly familiar to Catholics who came of age after Vatican II, but do young Catholics know much about this mid-century Trappist monk and author? Thomas Merton is bes...
How the Jesuits are reinventing college education (again) 18.03.2022 48:28
The Jesuits, from their founding, have always been heavily involved in education. And in the last 50 years, they’ve made it their mission to expand access to their world-class schools to the poor who have traditionally been excluded and left behind. This week, Ashley and Zac talk with Steve Katsouros, S.J., founder of the Come to Believe network, “a results-oriented, affordable 2-year commuter pro...
What it's like to give up English for Lent 11.03.2022 47:11
If you think meatless Fridays or forgoing sweets for the duration of Lent is hard, imagine giving up English—or whatever your primary language is. This week’s guest, Jimin Kang, did just that last year. Jimin speaks five languages but is most comfortable in English. We ask her how giving up English affected her relationship with her family and with God, and how people who only speak one language c...
Jesuitical Lent 2.0 06.03.2022 12:15
As is our custom, Jesuitical asked our friends from the Unorthodox podcast to suggest some additional Lenten penances. Stephanie, Liel and Mark did not hold back this year, so Zac and Ashley get creative about how to incorporate these new sacrifices into their Lenten journey. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Anti-racism spirituality, Ukraine and Pope Francis, and praying when it feels useless 04.03.2022 37:38
This week, Ashley and Zac talk to Patrick Saint-Jean, S.J., a Jesuit in formation, an assistant professor of psychology and a student therapist at Creighton University. Patrick is the author of a new book, The Crucible of Racism, as well as The Spiritual Work of Racial Justice: A Month of Meditations with Ignatius of Loyola. We talk with Patrick about why anti-racism isn’t optional for the spiritu...
Remembering Dr. Paul Farmer, a Catholic who wanted to cure the world 25.02.2022 1:05:03
The global health community and countless others who were healed, taught or simply inspired by Dr. Paul Farmer were shocked and saddened to learn of his death on Feb. 21. Dr. Farmer was a medical anthropologist, physician and co-founder of Partners In Health, a nonprofit that revolutionized global health care. He believed the poorest of the poor in places like Haiti and Rwanda deserve high-quality...
Painting modern saints, nuns under fire at the border, and asking what God’s will *actually* is 18.02.2022 54:14
Picture a painting or icon of your favorite Catholic saint. He or she probably has a pretty serious expression, is most likely white and is on the older side. Those images have been wonderful objects of prayer and devotion for Catholics down through the centuries. But do they speak to young people of faith today? To you? The icons created by today’s guest, Gracie Morbitzer, seek to do just that. G...
Catholic marriage prep doesn’t have to be terrible 11.02.2022 48:32
A wedding is a day, a marriage is a lifetime. That’s what Paul and Maureen Moses like to tell couples (including Zac and his wife) that they prepare for matrimony. Paul and Maureen are coordinators of Catholic Engaged Encounter in Brooklyn and Queens, and have been married for 45 years. They run a weekend retreat that fulfills the infamous “marriage prep” part of getting married in the Catholic Ch...
Tattoos are deeply meaningful—and religious—for many young people 04.02.2022 45:16
Behind (almost) every tattoo is a story, and this week’s guest thinks the church should start listening to those stories. Gustavo Morello, S.J., an associate professor of sociology at Boston College, has studied the religious significance of tattoos and found that even tattoos that don’t seem particularly religious can have a deep spiritual meaning for those who have them. We ask Gustavo about rel...
Teaser: You will never regret going to the funeral 01.02.2022 1:00
We're having a conversation with Kerry Weber, author of a new essay in America titled "You will never regret going to the funeral." Read the article here and listen to the full conversation at: https://www.patreon.com/americamedia Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
St. Irenaeus fought heresy in the 2nd century. What can we learn from him today? 28.01.2022 51:55
And just like that, with a papal decree last week, St. Irenaeus of Lyon became the 37th “doctor of the church.” Who was Irenaeus? What was the church like when he lived, sometime during the second century? And how did interpret and defend Scripture and Christian theology in a time before the Bible as we know it and the Creed even existed? To find out, we brought on Scott Moringiello, an associate...
How does the Catholic Church decide what counts as a miracle? 21.01.2022 49:28
You have probably heard that in order for someone to be declared a saint they (usually) need to have two miracles attributed to their intercession. But how does the Catholic Church decide what’s a miracle and what is just a rare healing—or a hoax? To find out, we spoke with Bishop Eusebio Elizondo, an auxiliary bishop for the Archdiocese of Seattle who has served as the “devil’s advocate” in the c...
What’s it like being Catholic in Hollywood? 14.01.2022 50:20
For every A-list celebrity, there are thousands of people working behind the scenes and in supporting roles. They hustle from gig to gig, stitching jobs and roles together to make a living. They’re people like Marianne Muellerleile. Marianne is a distinguished actor who has appeared in hundreds of films, TV series and commercials. We talk to Marianne about what it’s like being Catholic in Hollywoo...
Fr. Charles Coughlin: America’s first mass-media demagogue priest 07.01.2022 53:27
A charismatic demagogue with millions of devoted followers. A novel means of communication with little government regulation and few guardrails. The threat of violence in the streets and a country in crisis. No, we’re not talking about the 45th president but America’s first radio priest, Father Charles Coughlin. On “Radioactive,” a new podcast series from Tablet Studios, Andrew Lapin takes listene...
Teaser: Pope Francis, pets and kids 06.01.2022 2:42
We're unpacking the pope's controversial comments about having children or pets. To listen to the full conversation, go to https://www.patreon.com/americamedia Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Lidia Bastianich on why Jesus was always eating and drinking 17.12.2021 57:24
Why was Jesus always feasting, eating and drinking? What makes the table a place of sacred encounter? And how are you supposed to learn how to cook on a budget? Lidia Bastianich is a best-selling cookbook author, an Emmy award-winning public television host, restaurateur and the owner of a flourishing food and entertainment business. She’s also someone who has overcome extraordinary odds in her l...
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