Scott Vandehey and Chuck Lauer Vose
It’s a Very Exciting Time
A podcast by a UFO nerd and his tolerant friend. Because if UFOs are real… what else? If any of this turns out to be true, it’s a very exciting time!
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Scott Vandehey and Chuck Lauer Vose
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Jul 5, 2026
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Is AARO’s Historical Report a Coverup? 18.03.2024 1:02:06
After over a year of work, AARO has released the first volume of their report on the US government’s historical UAP investigations, and surprise, they found there is no evidence of extraterrestrial activity or of a reverse-engineering program. However, it’s worth putting this report in context of the previous 80 years of the US government saying publicly that there’s nothing to the UFO phenomenon,...
Garry Nolan, Chris Mellon, Karl Nell, and more at the SOL Foundation Symposium 04.03.2024 1:48:35
The SOL Foundation held their inaugural UAP symposium back in November, and the videos are finally live. The talks are great, and in this episode, we discuss four of them: Garry Nolan tells what he learned from UAP materials he’s studied. Chris Mellon discusses the political consequences of disclosure. Kevin Knuth examines the physics of UFOs. And Karl Nell outlines a potential plan for controlled...
DODIG: Lack of UAP Plan May Pose a Threat 19.02.2024 1:06:02
It’s been a busy few weeks! There were five UFO-related commercials at the Superbowl. The SOL Foundation dropped the videos from their UAP conference. Congress had a minor freakout directly after a UAP briefing by Lue Elizondo. The DODIG found that the DOD’s lack of a coordinated UAP plan leaves the US at risk. And Sean Kirkpatrick’s article drew a lot of pushback, questions about whether he follo...
What We Learned from Alien Interviews 05.02.2024 1:18:20
We’ve got a fun story today, one that’s reminiscent of the “EBO scientist” story we discussed a few months ago. Like that person, this Redditor claims to have been involved in a secret government research project. But where the EBO scientist was studying the biology of alien corpses, this person was helping to prepare a report summarizing what the government knows about alien society and motivatio...
David Grusch Was In Secret Program to Track UAP 22.01.2024 1:00:00
Recently the House Oversight Committee got a classified briefing from the ICIG, which gave them some new information, including locations to investigate. Whistleblower David Grusch gave a private presentation where he said he was part of a secret program to track UAP, and that a US adversary may be trying to force disclosure. Finally, former AARO director Sean Kirkpatrick wrote an article that tri...
Varginha: The Roswell of Brazil 16.01.2024 1:26:25
in 1996, a UFO crashed outside the city of Varginha, Brazil. Several people reported seeing short beings with large red eyes, oily skin, and a strong smell of sulfur. The military cordoned off parts of the town, and captured two of the creatures. Witnesses were intimidated by men in dark suits. A police officer died of mysterious causes after handling one of the creatures. Then the US Air Force ta...
David Grusch Has Firsthand Knowledge 17.12.2023 42:34
We’re opening the show with a bit of a bummer, because Schumer’s UAP disclosure amendment in the NDAA failed. Some UAP language remains, but it’s been severely watered down to the point of being perhaps useless, but Lue Elizondo reassures us that there’s a plan B in the works. Ross Coulthart interviewed Retired Navy Admiral Tim Gallaudet, who says plainly that we’re in contact with a non-human int...
“Catastrophic” UFO Disclosure 04.12.2023 1:14:09
In this episode we discuss the ongoing efforts in Congress to reconcile the NDAA, where top Republicans are fighting to water down Senator Schumer’s UAP Disclosure Amendment, especially the clause that gives the government eminent domain powers to claim any UFOs being held by private aerospace companies. We also look at why everyone’s using the phrase “catastrophic disclosure,” which comes from a...
Kirkpatrick Retires, Speculative History of UFO Reverse Engineering 13.11.2023 1:42:50
In this episode we cover some QuickHits of news, including a Congressional bill to restore Grusch’s security clearance, the HOC getting to read Grusch’s DOD IG complaint, AARO adding a reporting form to their website (that’s only for military and won’t accept classified info), and Dr Sean Kirkpatrick is retiring in December. Then we dive into a speculative history of the UFO reverse engineering pr...
“Nothing New. Pointless.” AARO’s 2023 UAP Report and Congress gets DODIG in a SCIF 01.11.2023 1:28:42
AARO released the 2023 UAP report, which feels like a student turning in a last-minute term paper without having done any research. It only covers eight months, and doesn’t mention Grusch or any other big UFO news. Meanwhile, the House Oversight Committee got the DOD Inspector General into a SCIF, where he told them absolutely nothing. Oh, and the former director of a Pentagon UFO program released...
Grusch & Elizondo Predict a “Wild” 2024 17.10.2023 1:26:29
In this episode, former UAP program director Lue Elizondo and UAP whistleblower David Grusch both predict that 2024 will be “wild in a good way.” Then we discuss the new Grusch interviews that dropped, which go into a bit more detail on why the government approved him talking about this stuff at all, the culture of secrecy, and how his autism worked in his favor during his investigation. And final...
NASA Releases UAP Report; Senate Pressures AARO; 30+ More Whistleblowers! 02.10.2023 1:29:42
It’s been a busy few weeks! We briefly touch on the Alien Mummy story in Mexico, report on some House UFO gossip, including another upcoming UAP hearing. We look at reports that multiple senators have been pressuring AARO to do a better job protecting whistleblowers, and a new article claiming more than 30 additional whistleblowers have come forward to the ICIG directly. And lastly, we discuss the...
AARO’s New Boss Launches Website, Avi Loeb Finds Interstellar Material 11.09.2023 1:25:28
We’re back with news from around the UAP community. First, Chuck’s here to talk about Avi Loeb’s claim to have recovered fragments of an interstellar object. Then we’ve got a quick update on more whistleblower activity. And finally, we’ve got some news about AARO, who recently moved in the org chart to report directly to Deputy Defense Secretary Hicks, who knocked some heads together and finally g...
Dainty DoD is Concerned UAP Hearings Have Sullied Its Reputation 28.08.2023 45:10
Although Congress is still on break for another couple weeks, we’re back with a bit of news. Reps. Burchett and Luna are still pushing to get a SCIF to hear Grusch’s classified testimony, but claim the DOD is stonewalling them. Ross Coulthart says the Pentagon and Intel Community are applying pressure to Congress to drop the UAP thing, and suddenly Rep. Turner says there will be no more UAP hearin...
Grusch Health Records Leaked; Scientist claims ET body program 14.08.2023 1:31:53
This week we’re covering two topics. Firstly, UAP whistleblower David Grusch’s past struggles with PTSD and suicide are published, sparking claims that the intelligence community is attempting to discredit Grusch and intimidate other witnesses. Then, we get weird, discussing a Reddit post where a molecular biologist claims to have worked in a program studying the genetics of alien bodies for a def...
UAP Hearing Aftermath: Kirkpatrick attacks, Pentagon evades, and Lockheed locks. 08.08.2023 1:06:57
In this week’s exciting episode, we cover the aftermath of last week’s explosive UAP hearing, including Chris Mellon’s claims that AARO is withholding satellite imagery of UAP from Congress, the fallout and possible legal consequences of Dr. Kirkpatrick’s weird LinkedIn post, continued evasion from the Pentagon, and the major aerospace companies going into press lockdown following whistleblower al...
Alien Bodies!? Whistleblower Grusch and Navy Pilots in House UAP Hearing 29.07.2023 1:46:51
The House Oversight Committee’s UAP Hearing just happened, and it was remarkable! Navy pilots David Fravor and Ryan Graves recounted their historic UFO encounters, and intelligence community whistleblower David Grusch reiterated his claims that the government has illegally concealed a UAP crash retrieval and reverse engineering program from Congress. Though these claims have been heard before, it...
Grusch, Fravor, and Graves to testify at House UAP Hearing 25.07.2023 1:07:39
They’ve announced the witnesses for the House Oversight Committee’s UAP hearing, including whistleblower David Grusch as well as Navy pilots David Fravor and Ryan Graves. Several Congresspeople are hopping mad about being denied access to videos and whistleblowers during a visit to Elgin Air Force Base, and they’re making it clear that the upcoming hearing is a direct effort by Congress to confron...
22. The UAP Disclosure Act of 2023 16.07.2023 1:18:38
Huge news this week as Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer introduces the UAP Disclosure Act of 2023! This is a bipartisan NDAA amendment that would introduce a JFK-style UAP record review board who would review all government records with the intent to release all UAP items within 25 years. Huge! We talk about the implications of this, why it matters, and what the limitations might be. We also d...
21. “A military complex accountable to no one,” Rubio & Coulthart on UAP Whistleblower Grusch 09.07.2023 58:57
Chuck is out sick, but we’ve got a special cohost for today: Scott’s wife, Annie! We’re going to be discussing the continuing news of impending UAP hearings in both the House and the Senate, possibly this month! We have additional comments from Marco Rubios’ NewsNation interview, discussing whistleblower concerns that speaking out is punishable by death, and the specter of an unaccountable UAP com...
20. Congress is taking UAP whistleblower Grusch’s claims seriously 29.06.2023 42:45
Chuck is still on vacation, but the UFO news just keeps coming hot and heavy, so Scott’s back with another solo episode to keep you up-to-date. We’ve got several stories this week, including an alleged secret Canadian UAP reverse engineering program and continued denials from the Pentagon. But the biggest story is that Congress is taking the claims of whistleblower David Grusch very seriously. We’...
19. David Grusch Week 2: The Vatican, UFO “agreements,” and coverups. 18.06.2023 33:39
Scott's coming at you solo with the latest updates on UFO Whistleblower David Grusch's story. This week we're covering his video interview with Ross Coulthart, where among other revelations he shared that the Vatican helped the US recover a crashed UFO from Italy in 1945, and that the US government possibly has "agreements" with non-human intelligences. Not to mention running...
18. “Urgent and Credible” - Whistleblower David Grusch 11.06.2023 1:47:21
It's happening! Whistleblower David Grusch, a USAF veteran and senior intelligence officer has provided information to Congress and the Intelligence Community Inspector General about illegal covert programs that possess retrieved non-human craft. This is a wild story, and we're going to talk about what he's claiming, why it's credible, how he differs from previous stories like Bob...
17. NASA’s UAP Team Needs More Data 04.06.2023 1:17:49
In this episode, we're talking about the NASA UAP Study Panel, who recently held their first public briefing ahead of their expected report in July. During the briefing, they questioned Dr Kirkpatrick from AARO, and agreed on the need for more and better quality data on UAP. We'll also talk about Dr Avi Loeb of Harvard, whose Galileo Project is moving forward with public data collection an...
16. Dr. Garry Nolan 23.05.2023 47:36
Dr. Garry Nolan, a well-respected Standard immunologist, was interviewed recently at a financial conference about UFOs. He said some fascinating things about UAP, the government's response, what they might be, and how to destigmatize the topic to encourage scientists to take it seriously. He also mentioned that a recent whistleblower testimony "created quite a hornet's nest in Washing...
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