The Overlap

It Was What It Was : The Football History Podcast

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Welcome to The Overlap's football history podcast, It Was What It Was. Each week Jonathan Wilson and Rob Draper will be talking about the key episodes in football history that have shaped the footballing world. The show will be discussing the best stories from football's past, giving insights to the personalities involved. the tales from behind the scenes and the impact they left. Join us at Football University! If you enjoy the podcast please hit subscribe to never miss an episode. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Jul 7, 2026

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Episodes

The Premier League’s Greatest Games: Liverpool 4-3 Newcastle – Part One 20.08.2024

Welcome to the latest episode of The Overlap’s football history podcast, It Was What It Was.    In this week’s episode, we take an in-depth look into the true classic that was Liverpool v Newcastle in April 1996, as The Reds snatched a victory in the final moments in front of the Kop.   Journalists Jonathan Wilson and Rob Draper delve into the backstory of the season, giving context...

How Pep Guardiola Became A Football Genius 13.08.2024

Welcome to the latest episode of The Overlap’s football history podcast, It Was What It Was . In this week’s episode, journalists Jonathan Wilson and Rob Draper take an in-depth look at Pep Guardiola's journey to becoming a football legend. Focusing on the early stages of his coaching career and the political landscape at Barcelona, Jonathan and Rob explain how the Catalonian club turned to Pep du...

Chaos, Fury and Clough: Liverpool v Leeds, 1974 06.08.2024

Welcome to the latest episode of The Overlap’s football history podcast, It Was What It Was.    In this week’s episode, we take an in-depth look into a game that was full of trouble -The 1974 Charity Shield at Wembley between Liverpool and Leeds, during a time when behaviour on and off the pitch was declining English football.    Journalists Jonathan Wilson and Rob Draper delve...

Football's Dirtiest Ever Game: Battle of Santiago 1962 30.07.2024

Welcome to the latest episode of The Overlap’s football history podcast, It Was What It Was . This week, Jonathan Wilson and Rob Draper delve into one of football's dirtiest ever games: the infamous Battle of Santiago in 1962. Regarded as one of the most brutal matches in football history, the Battle of Santiago saw host nation Chile face Italy in a violent and chaotic encounter at the World Cup....

Andrade: The Legend Before Pele! 23.07.2024

*This episode of It Was What It Was discusses issues including racism, with content that some listeners may find offensive.* Welcome to the latest episode of The Overlap’s football history podcast, It Was What It Was.    In this week’s episode, we take an in-depth look into the successful Uruguay National team of the 1920s and one their key players, Jose Leandro Andrade, who was perhaps...

Goodbye Gareth: Ranking Southgate’s England Era 17.07.2024

Welcome to the latest episode of The Overlap’s football history podcast, It Was What It Was.  In this week's bonus episode, journalists Jonathan Wilson and Rob Draper talk about Gareth Southgate and England's Euro 2024 tournament - which proved to be Southgate's last as the Three Lions manager. Jonathan and Rob reflect on Euro 2024, before questioning where Southgate ranks amongst the greates...

Dezso Solti: Auschwitz Survivor, Match-fixer 16.07.2024

 Welcome to the latest episode of The Overlap’s football history podcast, It Was What It Was.    In this week’s episode, we take an in-depth look into the story of Dezso Solti, a complex character who was one of the most notorious and biggest match fixers in European football during the 1960s and 1970s.   Journalists Jonathan Wilson and Rob Draper delve into Solti’s extraordina...

The Ban on Women's Football and its Resilient Rise 09.07.2024

  Welcome to the latest episode of The Overlap’s football history podcast, It Was What It Was.    In this week’s episode, we take an in-depth look into the 1920 Boxing Day game between Dick Kerr ladies and St Helens Ladies at Goodison, which remained the biggest crowd at a women’s game in England for over 90 years. It also appeared to be a historic turning point, as the FA would ban...

The End of Sir Alf: The Fall of England's Greatest Manager, Part 2 04.07.2024

Welcome to the latest episode of The Overlap’s football history podcast, It Was What It Was.   In Part One, journalists Jonathan Wilson and Rob Draper set the scene for the qualification of the 1972 Euro quarter-final, where England were knocked out by West Germany. We now delve into the continuing years of decline as England failed to qualify for the following three major tournaments.  ...

The End of Sir Alf: The Fall of England's Greatest Manager, Part 1 02.07.2024

Welcome to the latest episode of The Overlap’s football history podcast, It Was What It Was.    In this week’s episode, we take an in-depth look into the decline of England's most successful manager Sir Alf Ramsey, exploring how his 1966 World Cup winners were beaten by a much-improved West Germany side over two quarter-final qualification legs for Euro 1972.    Journalists Jon...

Euro 1984: The Magic of Michel Platini 25.06.2024

Welcome to the latest episode of The Overlap’s football history podcast, It Was What It Was. In this week’s episode, on its 40th Anniversary, we dive into Euro 1984, a tournament that marked a pivotal moment in French football history as they lifted a major tournament trophy for the first time. Journalists Jonathan Wilson and Rob Draper delve into the impact of Michel Platini, whose footballing pr...

Euro 2012: Spain's Pinnacle in Poland & Ukraine 18.06.2024

In this week’s episode, we take an in-depth look at Euro 2012, a tournament fondly remembered as the crowning moment in Spain’s era of dominance, marking their third consecutive major win following Euro 2008 and the 2010 World Cup. Journalists Jonathan Wilson and Rob Draper kick things off by delving into the politics behind the decision to host the tournament in Poland and Ukraine, exploring how...

Euro 2004: Greek Glory, England’s Exit - Part Two 13.06.2024

Welcome back to The Overlap’s football history podcast, It Was What It Was. In Part One, journalists Jonathan Wilson and Rob Draper set the scene for the Euro 2004 knockout stages. Now, we delve into the life of Greece manager Otto Rehhagel, who orchestrated one of football’s greatest miracles at Euro 2004. The tournament was a landmark for many nations, especially England, who dramatically lost o...

Euro 2004: Greek Glory, England’s Exit - Part One 11.06.2024

Welcome to the latest episode of The Overlap’s football history podcast, It Was What It Was. With Euro 2024 approaching this week, we present a special two-part episode on Euro 2004, a tournament where underdogs Greece achieved one of international football’s greatest upsets. Regarded as the one that got away from Sven-Goran Eriksson’s Golden Generation England team, journalists Jonathan Wilson an...

United’s Treble: Sliding Doors to Barcelona 04.06.2024

Welcome to the latest episode of The Overlap’s football history podcast, It Was What It Was.   Jonathan Wilson and Rob Draper delve into the sliding doors moments that lead to the Manchester United treble win in 1999.   In the years leading up to Sir Alex Ferguson's greatest achievement, we take a look at some of the key moments that could have changed the course of history: from Maurice...

Reds in Rome: Liverpool’s 1984 European Cup Story, Part Two 30.05.2024

Welcome to the latest episode of The Overlap’s football history podcast, It Was What It Was. In part two of our Reds in Rome story, journalists Jonathan Wilson and Rob Draper delve into the events of the day of the 1984 European Cup final between Roma and Liverpool. Having set the scene in part one of our two-part special, Jonathan and Rob reveal insightful stories from inside the Liverpool camp,...

Reds in Rome: Liverpool's 1984 European Cup Story, Part One 28.05.2024

Welcome to the latest episode of The Overlap’s football history podcast, It Was What It Was. This week we have a two part special focussing on Liverpool’s 1984 European Cup victory, 40 years on from one of the finest nights in the Reds' history. Journalists Jonathan Wilson and Rob Draper discuss the events leading up to the final where Joe Fagan’s side beat Roma in their own stadium as they lifted...

Farewell Jurgen: Klopp's origin story from Stuttgart to Liverpool 21.05.2024

Welcome to the latest episode of The Overlap’s football history podcast, It Was What It Was. Jonathan Wilson and Rob Draper continue the series with a unite insight into the life of Jurgen Klopp. Klopp leaves his managerial role at Liverpool having ended their 30 year top flight trophy drought alongside a historic Champions League, FA Cup, League Cup and Club World Cup during a 9-year period that...

Part 2 : Arsenal '89: The Game That Changed Football Forever 16.05.2024

Welcome back to The Overlap’s football history podcast, It Was What It Was.   On our second and final part of Arsenal ’89: The Game That Change Football Forever, journalists Jonathan Wilson and Rob Draper re-live the unforgettable final day of the 1988/89 campaign that seen Arsenal leapfrog Liverpool to the First Division title at Anfield.   George Graham’s Arsenal required a two-goal vi...

Part 1: Arsenal '89: The Game That Changed Football Forever 14.05.2024

  Welcome to the latest episode of The Overlap’s football history podcast, It Was What It Was.    Hosted by journalists Jonathan Wilson and Rob Draper, we continue our series with a game regarded as one of the biggest in English football history as Arsenal snatched the First Division title from Liverpool at Anfield through Michael Thomas's late goal in a 2-0 win on the final day of...

Ta-ra Fergie 07.05.2024

Welcome to The Overlap’s brand-new football history podcast, It Was What It Was.   Hosted by journalists Jonathan Wilson and Rob Draper, we kick off our series with the story behind one of the greatest managers of all time – Sir Alex Ferguson.   Sir Alex Ferguson won 38 major trophies in 26 years as Manchester United boss, including 13 Premier League titles, two Champions Leagues and fiv...

It Was What It Was: Preview 07.05.2024

Welcome to The Overlap's historical football podcast, It Was What It Was. Each week Jonathan Wilson and Rob Draper will be talking about the key episodes in football history that have shaped the footballing world today. The show will be discussing the best stories from football's past, giving insights to the personalities involved, providing details from behind the scenes and offering vital histor...

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