Jim Bennett
Inside Out with Jim Bennett and Ian Wilks
The format of Inside Out is simple - Jim Bennett is still on the inside of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, and Ian Wilks is on the outside of the Church. Yet both care about the Church and its future, and both want to see constructive dialogue between those who stay and those who leave. Hopefully, all of us can come to a better understanding of the Church and of each other.
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Episodes
Moral Authority - with Greg Prince 07.02.2026 1:08:45
Send us Fan Mail Ian and Jim welcome historian and author Greg Prince back to the podcast for a searching, urgent conversation about moral authority in the public square—and the growing silence of religious institutions at a moment of profound civic and ethical crisis.
Missions, Metrics, and the Stories We Tell Ourselves 31.01.2026 1:19:33
Send us Fan Mail Ian and Jim sit down for a one-on-one conversation to examine recent remarks by Elder Ronald A. Rasband about missionary work, church growth, and the “hastening” of the Lord’s work. Taking a close look at six “false narratives” Elder Rasband says need debunking, Jim and Ian explore what church growth really means—and how it’s measured. They discuss missionary numbers, retention ra...
Disability - with Greg Prince 24.01.2026 1:14:33
Send us Fan Mail Ian and Jim are joined once again by historian and scholar Greg Prince to explore one of the most neglected and sensitive issues in modern Mormonism: disability. Drawing from Greg’s unpublished “roadmap” for institutional reform—and from deeply personal experience as the parent of an autistic adult—the conversation examines how church culture, doctrine, and silence have shaped the...
Us vs. Them - with Greg Prince 17.01.2026 1:12:15
Send us Fan Mail Ian and Jim are joined once again by historian and author Greg Prince to discuss the Church’s long-standing “ us versus them” mindset — how it shaped missionary culture, theological certainty, and member identity, and how it continues to affect relationships with other faiths, former members, and the wider world.
Richard Bushman Returns! 10.01.2026 1:04:55
Send us Fan Mail Richard Lyman Bushman, one of the most influential historians of Joseph Smith and early Mormonism, returns to Inside Out for a candid conversation about faith, doubt, and the complicated relationship between spiritual conviction and institutional history.
The Legacy of Jeffrey R. Holland - with Greg Prince 03.01.2026 1:26:17
Send us Fan Mail In this New Year episode of Inside Out , Ian and Jim welcome back historian and scholar Greg Prince for a wide-ranging conversation centered on the recent passing of Elder Jeffrey R. Holland and what his funeral revealed about the Church’s leadership transition and future direction.
The Word of Wisdom - with Greg Prince 27.12.2025 1:17:45
Send us Fan Mail Ian and Jim welcome back renowned Mormon historian and author Greg Prince for a thoughtful, eye-opening conversation about one of the most debated elements of modern Mormon culture: the Word of Wisdom. Together, they examine how a revelation originally given “not by commandment or constraint” became a central loyalty marker for temple worthiness—and why the Church’s modern enforc...
A Conversation with Ganesh Cherian and Greg Prince 20.12.2025 1:14:14
Send us Fan Mail What does it really mean to be a Christian - or a Mormon - today? Ian and Jim are once again joined by historian Greg Prince and author and former bishop Ganesh Cherian for an honest, unscripted conversation about faith, loyalty, identity, and the future of Mormonism.
A Conversation with Karen Hyatt 13.12.2025 1:19:22
Send us Fan Mail What happens when conscience collides with institution—and peace, not anger, is the result? Ian and Jim sit down with Karen Hyatt, a lifelong Latter-day Saint whose deep devotion to Christ led her to one of the most controversial conclusions in modern Mormon discourse: that Joseph Smith was not a polygamist—and that the historical record has been profoundly misrepresented. Karen s...
A Conversation with Pat Boisselle 07.12.2025 1:15:30
Send us Fan Mail Jim and Ian sit down with Pat Boisselle — an old friend of Ian's whose life in Mormonism was defined by devotion, service, and sincerity. For decades, Pat was the kind of Latter-day Saint who quietly strengthened his community: a devoted husband, a dedicated missionary, a compassionate servant, and someone known for going above and beyond without seeking recognition. But in...
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Nemo the Mormon Returns! 29.11.2025 1:12:00
Send us Fan Mail Ian and Jim welcome back a favorite guest: Nemo the Mormon , joining Inside Out from the UK for a deep-dive conversation about one of the most defining—and difficult—topics in Latter-day Saint culture: fallibility vs. infallibility in the Church. Using a homemade “ Infallibility Meter ” (complete with sound effects and a cardboard spinner), the three tackle several big topics at r...
Gerontocracy - with Greg Prince 22.11.2025 1:29:42
Send us Fan Mail Ian and Jim welcome back historian and author Greg Prince for a deep dive into one of the most sensitive and consequential themes in Greg’s “Roadmap for Improving Mormonism”: gerontocracy—a system of governance led by the very old—and how it shapes the culture, leadership, and future of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
A Conversation with Sandra Tanner 15.11.2025 1:16:50
Send us Fan Mail In one of our most anticipated conversations to date, Inside Out welcomes the remarkable Sandra Tanner — writer, historian, researcher, and the great-great-granddaughter of Brigham Young. For more than sixty years, Sandra and her late husband Jerald Tanner have been at the forefront of documenting and analyzing the origins, doctrines, and historical claims of the LDS Church. Their...
Polygamy, Power, and the Pain of Not Knowing – with Greg Prince 08.11.2025 1:10:24
Send us Fan Mail What happens when a faith community quietly backs away from a doctrine without ever really owning the fallout? In this episode, historian and author Greg Prince returns to talk about the long shadow of Mormon polygamy - not just in the 19th century, but in the lived experience of Latter-day Saints today.
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A Conversation with Jordan Broadbent 01.11.2025 1:09:56
Send us Fan Mail Ian and Jim sit down with Jordan Broadbent, The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints’ Head of Humanitarian Efforts for Europe. From his early faith journey in England to his transformative shift from the corporate world into humanitarian service, Jordan shares the experiences and convictions that led him to dedicate his life to helping others.
A Conversation with Stephen Hunter 25.10.2025 58:58
Send us Fan Mail What happens when a Latter-day Saint bishop begins to ask deeper questions about faith, purpose, and the nature of God? In this powerful and deeply personal conversation, Ian and Jim sit down with Stephen Hunter — former political lobbyist, bishop, and now Orthodox Christian — to explore his remarkable spiritual journey.
A Conversation with Steven Hassan 18.10.2025 1:18:40
Send us Fan Mail What happens when faith, psychology, and the power of influence collide? In this extraordinary episode, Jim and Ian welcome Dr. Steven Hassan, one of the world’s foremost experts on cult dynamics, undue influence, and mind control. A former member of the Unification Church (“Moonies”) who has spent nearly fifty years helping people recover from coercive systems, Dr. Hassan brings...
Apostolic Interregnum Thoughts - with Greg Prince 11.10.2025 1:14:14
Send us Fan Mail In this post–General Conference discussion, Ian and Jim welcome back historian and author Greg Prince for a candid, wide-ranging conversation about what just unfolded during the Church’s apostolic interregnum since President Nelson’s passing.
LIVESTREAM TONIGHT! 8:00 PM Mountain Time - General Conference recap 08.10.2025 0:31
Send us Fan Mail Our second livestream! We'll be recapping General Conference and hopefully taking questions from you guys! Click here for the link to tonight's livestream at 8:00 PM MDT, or use the URL below https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zpm9vr8lW0A
Prophetic Voices in a Divided World - with Greg Prince 04.10.2025 1:16:16
Send us Fan Mail Ian and Jim welcome back historian and author Greg Prince for a wide-ranging and timely conversation about the tragic attack on a Michigan Latter-day Saint congregation, the passing of President Russell M. Nelson, and the future of President Dallin H. Oaks. Together, they wrestle with questions of faith, politics, and identity, asking whether the church can rise to meet this momen...
LIVESTREAM TONIGHT! 8:00 PM MOUNTAIN TIME! 01.10.2025 3:46
Send us Fan Mail Tonight, we launch the Inside Out YouTube Channel with a livestream at 8:00 PM Mountain Time. We'll be talking about the passing of President Nelson, the tragic shooting in Michigan, and General Conference coming up, with speculation about what an Oaks presidency is likely to look like. We welcome your comments and participation! Just visit https://www.youtube.com/live/jY6be...
Joseph Smith: The Architect of Mormonism — A Conversation with Ganesh Cherian 27.09.2025 1:17:55
Send us Fan Mail Ian and Jim sit down with scholar and author Ganesh Cherian , whose new book Joseph Smith: The Architect of Mormonism offers a topical biography of Mormonism’s founding prophet.
A Conversation with Bruce Butcher 20.09.2025 1:08:38
Send us Fan Mail This episode discusses grief and suicide. Listener discretion is advised. Ian and Jim sit down with Bruce Butcher—a longtime listener and friend of the podcast—for a conversation that goes straight to the heart. Bruce shares his faith journey, family background, and mission experiences, but most poignantly, he opens up about the devastating loss of his son Taylor, who took his own...
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