Ben Chugg and Vaden Masrani

Increments

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Vaden Masrani, a senior research scientist in machine learning, and Ben Chugg, a PhD student in statistics, get into trouble arguing about everything except machine learning and statistics. Coherence is somewhere on the horizon. Bribes, suggestions, love-mail and hate-mail all welcome at incrementspodcast@gmail.com.

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Ben Chugg and Vaden Masrani

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Society

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www.incrementspodcast.com

Latest episode

Jun 27, 2026

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Episodes

#29 - Some Scattered Thoughts on Superforecasting 16.08.2021

We're back! Apologies for the delay, but Vaden got married and Ben was summoned to be an astronaut on the next billionaire's vacation to Venus. This week we're talking about how to forecast the future (with this one simple and easy trick! Astrologers hate them!). Specifically, we're diving into Philip Tetlock's work on Superforecasting . So what's the deal? Is it possible to "harness the wisdom of...

#28 (C&R Series, Ch. 9) - Why is Logic Applicable to Reality? 19.07.2021

Why do logic and mathematics work so well in the world? Why do they seem to describe reality? Why do they they enable us to design circuit boards, build airplanes, and listen remotely to handsome and charming podcast hosts who rarely go off topic? To answer these questions, we dive into Chapter 9 of Conjectures and Refutations: Why are the Calculi of Logic and Arithmetic Applicable to Reality? . B...

#27 - A Conversation with Marianne 28.06.2021

There are many overused internet keywords that could be associated with this conversation, but none of them quite seem right. So here's a poem instead: The Ogre does what ogres can, Deeds quite impossible for Man, But one prize is beyond his reach: The Ogre cannot master speech. About a subjugated plain, Among its desperate and slain, The Ogre stalks with hands on hips, While drivel gushes from hi...

#26 - Moral Philosophy Cage Match (with Dan Hageman) 08.06.2021

In a rare turn of events, it just so happened that one or perhaps both of your charming co-hosts spewed a bit of nonsense about Derek Parfit in a previous episode, and we had to bring in a heavy hitter to sort us out. Today we're joined by friend of the podcast Mr. Dan Hageman, immuno-oncologist by day and aspiring ethicist by night, who gently takes us to task for misunderstanding Parfit and the...

#25 - Mathematical Explanation with Mark Colyvan 24.05.2021

We often talk of explanation in the context of empirical sciences, but what about explanation in logic and mathematics? Is there such a thing? If so, what does it look like and what are the consequences? In this episode we sit down with professor of philosophy Mark Colyvan and explore How mathematical explanation differs from explanation in the natural sciences Counterfactual reasoning in mathemat...

#24 - Popper's Three Worlds 11.05.2021

This episode begins with a big announcement! Ben has officially become a cat person, and is now Taking Cats Seriously. Vaden follows up with some news of his own, before diving into the main subject for today's episode - Popper's Three Worlds . In this episode we discuss: The TCS parenting movement  Chesto's tweet to Deutsch How Popper's Three Worlds differs from Deutsch's Things/Qualia/Abstr...

#23 - Physics, Philosophy, and Free Will with Sam Kuypers 03.05.2021

We are joined by the great Sam Kuypers for a conversation on physics, philosophy, and free will.  Vaden spends most of the episode preparing for a huge debate on free-will, and Ben spends it worried about what alternate versions of himself are up to in parallel universes. Still, we manage to touch on a few topics:  Realism and antirealist interpretations of quantum theory The advisory st...

#22 - Thinking Through Thought Experiments 15.04.2021

In this episode, we discuss Peter Singer's famous drowning child thought experiment, the role of moral theories, and the role of thought experiments in moral reasoning. From our perspectives, the conversation went something like this:  Ben's POV: Bravely and boldly trying to think through problems, Ben puts forward a stunningly insightful theory about the role of moral argumentation. Vaden, j...

#21 (C&R Series, Ch.1) - The Problem of Induction 23.03.2021

After a long digression, we finally return to the Conjectures and Refutations series. In this episode we cover Chapter 1: Science: Conjectures and Refutations . In particular, we focus on one of the trickiest Popperian concepts to wrap one's head around - the problem of induction.  References: Wiki on scientific laws Hume's dialogues concerning natural religion   Proof of the impossibili...

#20 (HTI crossover episode) - Roundtable Longtermism Discussion 08.03.2021

Hello and sorry for the delay! We finally got together with Fin and Luca from the excellent HearThisIdea podcast for a nice roundtable discussion on longtermism. We laughed, we cried, we tried our best to communicate across the divide.  Material referenced in the discussion: - 80k Hours Problem Profiles - Jon Hamm  imprisons us in an Alexa - The Case for Strong Longtermism - A Case Again...

#19 - Against Longtermism FAQ 02.02.2021

Back in the ring for round two on longtermism! We (Ben somewhat drunkenly) respond to some of the criticism of episode #17 and our two essays ( Ben's , Vaden's ) We touch on:  Ben's hate mail from his piece on cliodynamics Longtermism as implying altruistic portfolio shuffling What on earth is Bayesian epistemology  The Pasadena game Authoritarianism and the danger of seeking perfection&...

#18 - Work Addiction 14.01.2021

Bit of a personal episode this one is! Ben learns how to be a twitter warrior while Vaden has a full-on breakdown during quarantine. Who knew work addiction was actually a real thing? And that there are  12 step programs  for people who identify as being "powerless over compulsive work, worry, or activity"? And that mathematics can create compulsive behavior indistinguishable from drug a...

#17 - Against Longtermism 19.12.2020

Well, there's no avoiding controversy with this one. We explain, examine, and attempt to refute the shiny new moral philosophy of longtermism. Our critique focuses on The Case for Strong Longtermism by Hilary Greaves and Will MacAskill. We say so in the episode, but it's important to emphasize that we harbour no animosity towards anyone in the effective altruism community. However, we both think t...

#16 - Social Media II: Conversation, Privacy, and Odds & Ends 10.12.2020

Vaden comes battle-hardened and ready to debate and is met with ... a big soft hug from Ben. Ben repents his apocalyptic sins and admits that Vaden changed his mind. Again. God dammit this is getting annoying. To his credit, Vaden only gloats for 10 minutes.  Eventually we touch on some other topics:  technology as filling niches when is outrage appropriate?  the upsides of social m...

#15 - Social Media I: Manipulation, Outrage, and Documentaries 12.11.2020

Alright spiders, point this at your brain. Ben and Vaden do a deep dive into the recent Netflix documentary The Social Dilemma and have a genuine debate, just like the good ol' days.  Topics touched: Why Vaden dislikes documentaries, and this one in particular Is reliance on social media a problem? The advertisement model The relationship between social media and mental health ... and politic...

#14 (C&R Series, Ch.16) - Prediction, Prophecy, and Fascism 24.10.2020

The third in the Conjectures and Refutations series, we cover Chapter 16: Prediction And Prophecy in the Social Sciences . There's a bit more Hitler stuff in this one than usual (retweets  ≠ endorsements), but only because he provides a clear example of the motherlode of all bad ideas - historicism. We discuss: What historicism is and why it sucks Prediction vs prophecy Differences between th...

#13 - Privacy with Stephen Caines 15.10.2020

Stephen is back for round two! In this episode we learn that Vaden wants to live in a panopticon and Ben in a high tech surveillance state. Also, we're all going to use Bing from now on.  Stephen Caines is a research fellow at Stanford law school's CodeX centre for legal informatics, where he specializes in the domestic use of facial recognition technology. He received a J.D. from  the U...

#12 (C&R Series, Ch. 17) - Public Opinion and Liberal Principles 12.10.2020

In the lead up to the American presidential election, one of the largest and most consequential expressions of public opinion, Ben and Vaden do what they always do and ask: "What does Popper say about this?" The second in the Conjectures and Refutations series, we cover Chapter 17: Public Opinion and Liberal Principles .  Largely irrelevant and probably unhelpful, we touch  A thesis that...

#11 - Debating Existential Risk 16.09.2020

Vaden's arguments against Bayesian philosophy and existential risk are examined by someone who might actually know what they're talking about, i.e., not Ben. After writing a critique of our conversation in Episode 7, which started off a series of blog posts , our good friend Mauricio (who studies political science, economics, and philosophy) kindly agrees to come on the podcast and try to figure o...

#10 (C&R Series, Ch. 4) - Tradition 13.08.2020

Traditions, what are you good for? Absolutely nothing? In this episode of Increments, Ben and Vaden begin their series on Conjectures and Refutations by looking at the role tradition plays in society, and examine one tradition in particular - the critical tradition. No monkeys were harmed in the making of this episode. References: - C&R, Chapter 4: Towards a Rational Theory of Tradition Podcas...

#9 - Facial Recognition Technology with Stephen Caines 07.08.2020

The talented Stephen Caines punctures the cloud of confusion that is Ben and Vaden's conception of facial recognition technology. We talk about the development and usage of facial recognition in the private and public spheres, the dangers and merits of the technology, and Vaden's plan to use it a bars. For God's sake don't give that man a GPU. Stephen is a legal technologist with a passion for acc...

#8 - Philosophy of Probability III: Conjectures and Refutations 28.07.2020

On the same page at last! Ben comes to the philosophical confessional to announce his probabilistic sins. The Bayesians will be pissed (with high probability). At least Vaden doesn't make him kiss anything. After too much agreement and self-congratulation, Ben and Vaden conclude the mini-series on the philosophy of probability, and "announce" an upcoming mega-series on Conjectures and Refutations....

#7 - Philosophy of Probability II: Existential Risks 07.07.2020

Back down to earth we go! Or try to, at least. In this episode Ben and Vaden attempt to ground their previous discussion on the philosophy of probability by focusing on a real-world example, namely the book The Precipice by Toby Ord, recently featured on the Making Sense podcast. Vaden believes in arguments, and Ben argues for beliefs. Quotes " A common approach to estimating the chance of an unpr...

#6 - Philosophy of Probability I: Introduction 02.07.2020

Don't leave yet - we swear this will be more interesting than it sounds ... ... But a drink will definitely help. Ben and Vaden dive into the interpretations behind probability. What do people mean when they use the word, and why do we use this one tool to describe different concepts. The rowdiness truly kicks in when Vaden releases his pent-up critique of Bayesianism, thereby losing both his frie...

#5 - Incrementalism Revisited: Defund the Police 18.06.2020

In their first somber episode, Ben and Vaden discuss the protests and political tensions surrounding the murder of George Floyd. They talk about defunding the police, the importance of philosophy in politics, and honest conversation as the only peaceful means of error-correction.  References:   https://8cantwait.org/ https://www.8toabolition.com/ Study which found that body cameras did n...

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