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In-House Outliers

In-House Outliers shares the stories and secrets of those who have taken unconventional paths and challenged conventional notions of how corporate legal departments should operate.

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Brightflag

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Technology

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brightflag.com

Latest episode

Jul 9, 2026

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Episodes

Valuing Understanding with Momentive Technologies' Jeff Barlow 27.03.2025

On this episode, Jeff Barlow (SVP, GC and Corporate Secretary at Momentive Technologies) joined Alex Kelly for an insightful discussion about the key role legal department metrics play in formulating a strategic plan around how legal work is managed, the value of clear communication with outside counsel. Jeff also reflected on his journey to becoming an in-house legal leader, and his advice for th...

Thinking Holistically with Vinted's Charles Stanley 12.03.2025

On this episode, Charles Stanley (Senior Manager of Legal Operations and Technology at Vinted) discussed his career transition from CLO to legal operations, and his strategic approach to legal ops initiatives. Charles also shared his thoughts on the growing role of AI and technology within legal departments, and the projects he's most proud of having implemented.

Designing Solutions with FanDuel's Laura Revie 19.02.2025

On this episode, Laura Revie (Legal Operations Senior Manager at FanDuel) joined the show to discuss the importance of change management when implementing new processes or technology as a legal operations professional. Laura also shared insights into her fascinating career journey from costume designer to legal ops, and discussed how AI is impacting in-house legal teams.

Rising to the Challenge with Brightflag's Laura Gleeson 05.02.2025

On this episode, Laura Gleeson (GC and VP of Legal & Compliance at Brightflag) joined the show to discuss: The benefits and challenges of transitioning from her role as a partner at a major law firm to working as an in-house legal leader How data transforms what a General Counsel and their in-house team of capable of achieving in terms of legal service delivery The ways in which in-house work...

Drawing Connections with Leaf Home's Bridget Franklin 23.01.2025

On this episode, Bridget Franklin (VP of Legal & Compliance at Leaf Home) joined the show to discuss her experience navigating the transition from working at a firm to working in-house, how she's leveraged technology to gain greater visibility into legal spend, and her feelings on the growing role of AI within legal departments.

2025 Predictions with Brightflag's Kevin Cohn 08.01.2025

Brightflag's Kevin Cohn returns to the show for an in-depth conversation about his legal ops and legal technology predictions for 2025, touching on topics including AI regulations, the evolving CLO-legal ops relationship, and CLM consolidation.

Leveraging Your Expertise with Legal Ops Leader Nicole Arbiv 18.12.2024

On this episode, legal operations leader Nicole Arbiv joined the show to discuss how her accounting background helped facilitate her move into legal ops, and the projects she was most proud of spearheading in her legal operations roles. Nicole also shared insights from her career journey, and how she's applied legal ops skillsets to her work in Customer Success.

Strength Through Partnership with Cox Media Group's Eric Greenberg 10.12.2024

On this episode, Eric Greenberg (EVP, GC, and Corporate Secretary at Cox Media Group) joined Alex Kelly to share his thoughts on legal operations, strategic partnerships with outside counsel, and the career journey that led him to working in-house. Eric also discussed how legal technology is shaping legal strategy, and his legal team's recognition by The American Lawyer's Corporate Counsel Awards.

Building Upwards with ITGC's Sarah Irwin 20.11.2024

On this episode, Sarah Irwin (CEO and Founder of ITGC) joined Alex Kelly for a discussion about her fascinating journey from private practice, to GC of a high-growth SaaS company, to Founder and CEO of her own business. Sarah also shared insights into what to prioritize when building a legal function from the ground up, and discussed her thoughts on how legal teams should approach technologies lik...

Forward-Thinking with DHL's Tiffani Huynh 08.11.2024

On this episode, Tiffani Huynh (Director of Legal Innovation, Technology, and Analytics at DHL) joined Alex Kelly to discuss her approach to process optimization, how she assesses legal tech providers, and how working for an organization that's known for efficiency informed her approach to legal ops initiatives. Tiffani also shared her thoughts on the value AI can bring to in-house legal teams, an...

Process Innovation with Legal Ops Leader Reeta Sharma 23.10.2024

On this episode, Legal Operations Leader Reeta Sharma joined Alex Kelly for a discussion about how pairing thoughtful process improvements with innovation legal technology can multiply the value that in-house legal teams can deliver to their organization. Reeta also shared her thoughts on the use of AI tools for legal departments, offered advice to those starting out in the legal ops field, and ta...

Strategic Thinking with Tala's Damier Xandrine 10.10.2024

On this episode, Damier Xandrine (Chief Legal Officer at Tala) joined Alex Kelly to discuss the value that understanding an organization's financial situation can bring to an in-house legal team's ability to do its best work. Damier also discussed her thoughts on the importance of the legal operations function, and shared insights from her career journey.

A Thoughtful Approach with Legal Operations Leader David Krebs 25.09.2024

On this episode, Legal Operations Leader David Krebs joined Alex Kelly for an insightful discussion about the challenges of navigating legal ops initiatives, and how he has approached major projects throughout his career. David also reflected on his career journey, and shared his thoughts on the impact legal tech and AI is having on in-house legal teams.

Finding Your Voice with Saint-Gobain North America's La-Toya Hackney 12.09.2024

On this episode, La-Toya Hackney (SVP, General Counsel & Secretary at Saint-Gobain North America) joined Alex Kelly for a candid discussion about her amazing career journey, the importance of valuing diversity in the legal field, and her general philosophy when it comes to managing an in-house legal department. La-Toya also shared her thoughts on the value that legal operations provides to a l...

Learning to Prioritize with Keurig Dr. Pepper's Brandy Musick 27.08.2024

On this episode, Brandy Musick (Senior Manager of Legal Operations at Keurig Dr. Pepper) joined Alex Kelly to discuss her approach to implementing legal technology. Brandy also shared insights from her career journey, and talked about the importance of e-billing for modern legal departments.

Looking to the Future with Brightflag's Alex Kelly 14.08.2024

On this special episode, Brightflag Co-Founder and COO Alex Kelly goes from host of the podcast to guest as he joins Brightflag Chief Customer Officer Kevin Cohn for a candid interview. During his conversation with Kevin, Alex discusses his own career journey, Brightflag's early beginnings, his thoughts on the growth of AI and legal operations, and much more.

Embracing Community with One Medical's Louisa Toy 25.07.2024

On this episode, Louisa Toy (Legal Operations Manager at One Medical) joined Alex Kelly to discuss her legal operations journey. Louisa also shared insights into the most valuable skillsets for legal ops professionals to have, and the importance of embracing the legal operations community.

Looking Upstream with Enfusion's Matthew Campobasso 11.07.2024

On this episode, Matthew Campobasso (General Counsel at Enfusion) joined Alex Kelly for an insightful discussion about embracing a proactive mindset as a GC. Matthew also shared his thoughts on the power of the legal operations function, and discussed his move in-house after over a decade working as an Associate and Partner with Chicago-based law firms.

Making Big Impacts with Trend Micro's Brent Dyer 27.06.2024

On this episode, Brent Dyer (Director of Legal Operations, Employment Law, and Litigation at Trend Micro) joined Alex Kelly to discuss how to identify the initiatives that will have the greatest impacts on your in-house team. Brent also discussed how e-billing transformed his legal team's spend management capabilities, and shared insights from his journey into legal operations.

Pushing the Envelope with Splunk's Chris Beahn 13.06.2024

On this episode, Chris Beahn (Director, Legal & Global Affairs Operations at Splunk) joined Alex Kelly to discuss the consulting and project management principles that have had the greatest impact on his legal operations career. Chris also shared his thoughts on how the legal industry has pushed technological innovation forward over the years, and the value that networking and being a part of...

Bridging the Gaps with Legal Leader Samara Abrams 30.05.2024

On this episode, Legal Leader Samara Abrams joined Alex Kelly for a discussion about how to navigate the legal ops function, and the importance of combining good data with trusted relationships to affect change. Samara also shared insights into how her work in Business Development informs her legal ops strategies, and shared her top tips for facilitating communication and eliminating silos.

Live from CGI 2024 with Timothy Melchior (Trane Technologies) and Tom Rice (TravelPerk) 27.05.2024

Recorded live at 2024's CLOC Global Institute, this episode features Timothy Melchior (Trane Technologies) and Tom Rice (TravelPerk). Timothy dove into the key pillars he prioritizes when executing legal ops initiatives, including how he works to create a lean legal function. And Tom shared his insights on the rise of AI tools and how they're transforming legal work.

Live from CGI 2024 with Stéphanie Hamon (Norton Rose Fulbright) and Kshitij Dua (HashiCorp) 24.05.2024

Recorded live at 2024's CLOC Global Institute, this episode features Stéphanie Hamon (Head of Legal Operations Consulting at Norton Rose Fulbright) and Kshitij Dua (Head of Legal Operations at HashiCorp). Stéphanie discussed the path that led her to legal operations and her key takeaways from CGI 2024, and Kshitij talked about the benefits of embracing new learning opportunities in legal ops a...

Live from CGI 2024 with Jason Winmill (Buying Legal Council) and Katrina Gowans (IFM Investors) 20.05.2024

Recorded live at CLOC Global Institute, this episode features legal leaders Jason Winmill (Argopoint, Buying Legal Council) and Katrina Gowans (IFM Investors). Jason underscored the importance of engaging with the community as a legal ops professional, and talked about how to navigate obtaining resources for your legal team. Katrina discussed her approach to finding the right pace when implementin...

Live from CGI 2024 with Heather Torres (Sonnedix) and Denise Doyle (Extreme Networks) 17.05.2024

Our 2024 "Live from CLOC Global Institute" podcast series kicks off with Heather Torres (Assistant General Counsel at Sonnedix) and Denise Doyle (Extreme Networks). Heather stopped by to reflect on her first year at CGI, and how data changes the way legal work gets done. Denise discussed the value of prioritizing legal spend management, the progress that is left to be made when it comes...

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