Bill Barol & Mat Ricardo
Imagination & Junk
Thomas Edison said: "To invent, you need a good imagination and a pile of junk." Join writer Bill Barol in the US and variety performer Mat Ricardo in the UK for a freewheeling transatlantic conversation about creativity -- what it is, where it comes from and why it matters.
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Jun 12, 2026
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Episodes
Episode 10: Buzzing Neon 07.06.2023 32:47
This week we're talking about criticism, including the trickiest kind: Self-criticism. We'll also look at the buzzing neon sign hanging outside the hotel room of your mind that spells out your own doubts and insecurities, and how to filter it out. Plus: Humility and its plodding cousin experience, spoons, the Dunning-Kruger Effect, sleeping policemen, fixed-rate mortgages, the magical power of put...
Episode 9: Catch Me If You Can 24.05.2023 32:32
In this episode we're looking at Impostor Syndrome, the conviction that you've been faking it and are always just inches away from being unmasked. We have a theory about where it came from (hint: it was the '70s), and some thoughts about how it can be turned to creative people's advantage. Plus: Penn & Teller, non-apology apologies, fresh batteries, a ridiculous excess of materials, and the Mo...
Episode 8: The Lede (and how to swing it) 10.05.2023 31:50
How do you get your audience in the tent? And how do you send them home happy at the end? Journalists have the lede and the kicker; entertainers have the opener and the closer. But they're not the only creative people with tricks. Every art form has them, and if you dig into them you can see some of the wiring that holds all creative work together. Also: Coco Chanel, Spot is a dog, a bowler hat wi...
Episode 7: Struck by Lightning 26.04.2023 32:19
How do we measure success in creative work? Is it about the reception the work gets, or is the scale more elusive? Answering this question takes some clarity of thought and a good grasp of expectations. This week, in the first episode of season 2, we're talking about meter-setting. Also: Explosions, sleepy Labradors, and coffee with butter in it.
Season 2 premieres April 26, 2023 19.04.2023 1:03
Imagination & Junk is coming back! Season 2 premieres Wednesday, April 26. For our listeners in the UK, that's Wednesday, 26 April. (Bill here. I'm the American one, and am pretty sure those are the same day, but why take chances?) We've been working hard on the new season and we hope you like it. If you do, please subscribe . And if you care to help us spread the word by any of the usual mean...
Episode 6: Elephants in rooms 06.09.2021 28:43
Is it frivolous to do creative work when the world seems to be falling apart around you? Or can it be a palliative -- for both the creator and their audience? In the last episode of Season 1 we're looking at creativity in hard times, and peeling back the curtain on some decisions we're made about how to approach the hulking coronavirus-shaped elephant in the room. Also: Way too much talk about how...
Episode 5: Angry playtime 23.08.2021 24:21
A decade ago a group of Dutch researchers postulated that anger may under some conditions be an effective spur to creativity. We’re unpacking that eccentric idea this week, and comparing it with our own histories as creators. Do anger and other negative emotions unlock creativity? Also: How and when can arrogance be useful? Plus: Bad sitcoms, toxic bosses, Jetskis and a standup desk you definitely...
Episode 4: Stupid, stupid genius 09.08.2021 30:12
"Forget inspiration. Habit is more dependable." -- Octavia Butler It's almost impossible to get creative work done without discipline, but not all of us are naturally disciplined creators. That's where habit and routine enter the scene -- they're ways we impose discipline on ourselves. And they're more important skills to develop then ever before in a world where the old structures propping up cre...
Episode 3: Gorilla position 26.07.2021 24:49
Style is the beautiful face we put on what we do. It goes hand in hand with technique, but the way they inflect each other is a complicated dance -- technique without style can be dull, but style without technique is something worse; it shreds the all-important trust that has to exist between a creative person and her audience. In this episode we talk about what style is, that critical distinction...
Episode 2: The squeeze 12.07.2021 27:26
There's a misconception that creativity means coming up with ideas. But ideas are one thing, results are another, and the distance between them can only be traversed by work. How do creative people sort ideas, develop them and emerge on the other end? That's where process and technique enter the picture. Also: Mat makes the first of several references to professional wrestling, and Bill explains w...
Episode 1: Just start 25.06.2021 29:35
There are a million possible ways to start a new creative project, but they can all be reduced to one: Just start. In the premiere episode of Imagination & Junk you’ll meet your hosts: Bill Barol, a longtime professional writer in just about every medium, and Mat Ricardo, a variety performer who’s toured the world for decades, playing every kind of venue from street corners to theaters and fes...
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