Lewis Hayden and Mitch Brouwer
I Don't Know Running
The I Don't Know Running podcast is about how we're all learning to run in some way or another. Whether you're just starting to run a mile or you've ran 100's of marathons and are now in the ultra world, this is for you. We all continue to learn and have something to share. So join us in the discussion and help us make everyone's running experience better. We will talk about our experiences, your experiences, gear, races, and much more.
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Lewis Hayden and Mitch Brouwer
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Jul 5, 2026
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Episodes
Western States Mayhem: Near Records, Meltdowns & Massive Comebacks - IDKR Podcast | Episode 165 06.07.2025 46:29
Send us Fan Mail This week on the I Don't Know Running Podcast, Lewis and Mitch dive into one of the most exciting Western States Endurance Runs in recent memory! 🏃♂️🔥 From Caleb Olson's near-record finish and Killian Jornet's incredible comeback, to Mitch’s return to running (kind of) and Lewis’ big plans—this episode is packed with updates, insight, laughs, and just enough caut...
He’s Chasing the Fastest Appalachian Trail Record | I Don’t Know Running Podcast - Episode 164 29.06.2025 38:17
Send us Fan Mail Could YOU run 70 miles a day for over a month? 😳 In this episode of the I Don’t Know Running podcast, we dive into the world of FKTs (Fastest Known Times), highlighting the legendary Appalachian Trail—2,190+ miles of rugged terrain from Georgia to Maine. We break down what an FKT actually is, the difference between unsupported, self-supported, and supported runs, and how runners...
Losing Running: When Injury Shakes Your Identity | Episode 163 22.06.2025 52:11
Send us Fan Mail In this deeply personal episode of the I Don’t Know Running podcast, Mitch opens up about the mental, emotional, and physical toll of losing something that once defined him—running. After years of racing, training, and building a lifestyle around the sport, a series of health challenges forced Mitch to face life without running. From walking the neighborhood to battling unknown me...
Why Western States 100 Gives Us All the Feels | Race Preview + Big News! IDKR Podcast | Episode 162 15.06.2025 33:11
Send us Fan Mail Western States season is here, and we are fired up! In this episode of the I Don’t Know Running podcast, Lewis and Mitch dive deep into what makes the Western States 100 the most iconic ultra of them all—from personal memories to the 2024 race preview. We talk Killian’s return, Walmsley’s surprising drop, the rise of 70+ age group finishers (including an 80-year-old!), and predict...
These 10 Marathons Are Totally Insane — Would You Run Them?! | IDKR Podcast | Episode 161 08.06.2025 40:55
Send us Fan Mail In this episode of the I Don’t Know Running podcast, we dive into 10 of the most unique marathons in the world — from sipping wine in France to dodging giraffes in Kenya, running under the midnight sun in Norway, and freezing your toes off in Antarctica. 🏃 Mitch also shares his experience spectating the Bayshore Marathon (and why he didn’t love it), and we celebrate a friend’s ep...
🎽 How to Run a Marathon on a Budget | Save Big Without Skimping on Your Race! | Episode 160 01.06.2025 34:06
Send us Fan Mail Is running a marathon breaking your bank? 🏦 Not anymore. In this episode of the I Don’t Know Running Podcast, Lewis and Mitch break down how to train and race without draining your wallet. From cheap fueling tips and free training plans to smart gear hacks and race entry strategies, they share real-world ideas that actually work—even if you're a "lazy ultrarunner"...
🎯 Finding Joy Beyond the Finish Line | I Don’t Know Running Podcast | Episode 159 25.05.2025 41:12
Send us Fan Mail Can you still love running when you're not chasing a PR? Absolutely. In this episode, Lewis and Mitch dive into how to rediscover joy in the journey—not just the destination. Whether you're toeing the line at your first 5K or your 50th ultra, this conversation is for anyone learning how to run for fun, community, mental health, and personal growth. 🗣️ We also respond to...
Conquering the Manitou Incline: The Steepest Mile You’ll Ever Hike | IDKR Podcast | Episode 158 18.05.2025 27:27
Send us Fan Mail In this episode of the I Don't Know Running podcast, we take a deep dive into one of the most grueling and iconic endurance challenges in the U.S.—the Manitou Springs Incline in Colorado. With 2,744 steps, a 2,000 ft elevation gain, and an average 45% grade (peaking at 68%!), this isn't your average “short” hike. Join Lewis and Mitch as they unpack the incline's wil...
Inside the Cocodona 250: Course Records, Crazy Weather & Ultra Drama| | Episode 157 11.05.2025 32:19
Send us Fan Mail This week on the I Don't Know Running Podcast, we're diving deep into one of the most epic ultramarathons out there — the Cocodona 250. From record-breaking performances to wild weather swings and strategic 10-minute trail naps, this race has it all. We cover: 🏔️ What makes this 250+ mile race so iconic 🏃 Course record highlights from Dan Green and Rachel Entin 🌩️ The i...
Lunch Money, Lobster Butter & Running Motivation | I Don't Know Running Ep. 156 04.05.2025 33:57
Send us Fan Mail This week on I Don’t Know Running, Lewis admits he's a lazy ultrarunner with lunch money and Mitch just wants better coffee. But don’t worry—we eventually get to the topic: staying consistent with your running! We break down the real reasons why consistency matters, how it affects your physical, mental, and emotional health, and how to overcome the common motivation killers l...
Running with Dogs, Internet Comments, and Grumpy Old Men Vibes | IDKR Podcast | Episode 155 27.04.2025 33:11
Send us Fan Mail Welcome back to the I Don't Know Running Podcast! This week, Lewis and Mitch are bringing the energy — talking about grumpy old men vibes, hilarious listener comments, and why running with your dog might just be the best thing ever. 🐕🏃♂️ We kick things off with a shoutout to James is Talking — a fellow runner sharing his journey on YouTube. Be sure to check out his channel...
Running Then vs Now: How 5Ks, Marathons & Races Have Totally Changed | Episode 154 20.04.2025 25:34
Send us Fan Mail From the gritty 5Ks of the '70s to the virtual races of today, running has come a long way—and we’re breaking it all down. In this episode of the I Don’t Know Running Podcast, Lewis and Mitch continue their generational deep dive, this time focusing on how running events have changed over the decades. We cover everything from: The classic era of local road races The marathon...
Gen X, Millennials, and Gen Z: Who Runs It Best? 🏃♂️💬 | Episode 153 13.04.2025 27:40
Send us Fan Mail In this episode of the I Don’t Know Running Podcast, Lewis and Mitch dive into the generational divide in running. From vintage sweatshirts to Nike shoe pods, we explore how Gen X, Millennials, and Gen Z approach running—motivations, tech, fashion, races, and more. Who’s running for mental health? Who’s chasing PRs? And who’s just trying to make it through the week in New Balance...
🎙️ Marathon Gear & Pre-Race Jitters: What You Really Need to Know! IDKR Podcast | Episode 152 06.04.2025 33:49
Send us Fan Mail 📦 What's in your race day bag? In this episode of the I Don’t Know Running Podcast, Lewis and Mitch dive deep into the essential marathon gear every runner needs and get real about the pre-race jitters we all feel—yes, even seasoned marathoners! From shoes and socks to nipple guards and positive self-talk, we’re covering it all (with the usual laughs and randomness, of cours...
📉 Running Myths Busted! | Marathon Training Misconceptions Debunked | Episode 151 30.03.2025 26:47
Send us Fan Mail In this episode of The I Don't Know Running Podcast , Lewis and Mitch are back—boot-free (almost) and ready to talk about the training myths that runners hear all the time. Do you really need to run every day? Will more miles actually make you better? Does stretching actually prevent injury? We dig into the good, the bad, and the funny when it comes to common running advice....
Her First Black Canyon 100k..After Two "Failed" 100Ks | Brutal Course, Big Redemption | Episode 150 23.03.2025 54:48
Send us Fan Mail In this episode of *The I Don’t Know Running Podcast*, we sit down with returning guest Shawn as she shares her powerful story of finally conquering the 100k distance at The Black Canyon 100K in Arizona! 🏃♀️🌵 From past DNF setbacks to training challenges in snowy Michigan, Shawn opens up about the highs, lows, and everything in between—including hydration mistakes, nutrition s...
Why Trail Running is BOOMING in 2025! 🌲🏃♂️ | Episode 149 16.03.2025 34:44
Send us Fan Mail Trail running is on the rise, and in this episode of The I Don’t Know Running Podcast, we dive into the stats proving it! 📈🏃♀️ With participation skyrocketing, races getting longer, and more runners shifting from road to trail, we explore why this trend is set to explode in 2025. Along the way, Lewis shares his eventful morning (featuring dog poop and a high-speed Audi ride), M...
🚀 Run Longer, Feel Stronger! How to Run Without Getting Tired (Even Beginners!) 🏃♂️💨 | Episode 148 09.03.2025 21:26
Send us Fan Mail Ever wondered how to run without getting tired? In this episode of the I Don't Know Running Podcast, we dive into strategies for beginners looking to run longer with less fatigue. From pacing techniques and mindset shifts to nutrition and recovery, we cover everything you need to know—whether you're training for your first mile or tackling an ultra marathon. 🏃♂️ Key To...
How to Improve Your Running Form & Maybe Even Break a World Record! 🏃♂️🎯 | Episode 147 02.03.2025 22:43
Send us Fan Mail In this episode of The I Don’t Know Running Podcast, we’re diving into essential running techniques that can make your runs more enjoyable and efficient—whether you’re just getting started or looking to improve! 🏃♀️💨 From posture and breathing to foot strike and knee drive, we cover practical tips that can help you feel better and go farther. Plus, we go down some hilarious rab...
🏃♂️ Breaking Records & Bouncing Back – A Runner’s Road to Recovery! 🏅 IDKR Podcast 🎙️| Episode 146 23.02.2025 30:57
Send us Fan Mail In this episode of The I Don’t Know Running Podcast, we dive into Mitch’s challenging road to recovery after Achilles surgery—complete with crutch mishaps, stair struggles, and a tricked-out knee scooter. 🏥💪 But that’s not all! We also geek out over the insane records being shattered in February, including Jacob Kiplimo’s mind-blowing half marathon time and Grant Fisher’s domina...
🏃♂️ How to Find the Perfect Running Shoes | I Don’t Know Running Podcast 🎙️ | Episode 145 16.02.2025 26:06
Send us Fan Mail Welcome back to *The I Don’t Know Running Podcast*! 🏃♂️🎙️ This week, Lewis and Mitch take on one of the most essential topics for runners—**how to find the right running shoe**. Whether you’re a beginner runner or training for your first marathon, getting the right shoes can make or break your experience. ### **In this episode:** ✔️ Why the right shoes matter (and how they p...
😂 The 30 Funniest Running Excuses (You’ve Definitely Used Some!) IDKR Podcast 🎙️ | Episode 144 09.02.2025 25:40
Send us Fan Mail Welcome back to The I Don’t Know Running Podcast! 🏃♂️🎙️ In this lighthearted episode, Lewis and Mitch break down the funniest (and sometimes relatable) excuses runners use to procrastinate or avoid hitting the pavement. Whether it's “It’s too hot,” “I’ll run later,” or even “I’m in the middle of buying a KFC franchise,” we've heard (and used) them all. 😂 PLUS: We rank...
🏃♂️ Controversial Houston Half Finish & The Crazy Chipotle Challenge 2025! 🌯🔥 | Episode 143 02.02.2025 36:16
Send us Fan Mail Welcome back to The I Don't Know Running Podcast! 🏃♂️🎙️ Today, Lewis (the self-proclaimed lazy ultra runner) and Mitch dive into two big running stories: 1️⃣ The controversial Houston Half Marathon finish—did Conner Mantz get robbed? We break down the final moments, the Olympic qualifier implications, and what it means for American distance running. 🇺🇸🏆 2️⃣ The Chipotle S...
Running a Marathon with NO Training? Here’s What to Expect | Episode 142 26.01.2025 30:42
Send us Fan Mail In this episode of the “I Don’t Know Running” podcast, Lewis and Mitch talk about taking on a marathon without proper training—yes, it’s possible, but is it worth it? They discuss why someone might end up running 26.2 miles on a whim, how to mentally prep for the pain you’ll face, and tips on pacing, fueling, and staying motivated if you’re going into race day underprepared. Mitch...
Marathon Training 101: Mitch’s Bingo Moment, Fueling Tips, and Race-Day Readiness | Episode 141 19.01.2025 31:14
Send us Fan Mail Welcome back to the “I Don’t Know Running” podcast! In this episode, Lewis and Mitch kick things off with a hilarious story about a Bingo card floating around at Mitch’s expense. They then continue their deep dive into marathon training tips for beginners—covering everything from fueling and hydration strategies to pacing, gear selection, and race-day preparation. Mitch also opens...
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