Hunger for Wholeness

In this conversation, Ilia Delio speaks with biophysicist, entrepreneur, and author Gregory Stock. Known for his groundbreaking ideas about biotechnology and the future of humanity, Gregory shares the story behind his influential book Metaman and offers insights into how technology is shaping—and destabilizing—our species and planet. Ilia and Gregory discuss: What does nature teach us about the ev...

In Part 2 of Ilia Delio’s conversation with author and biblical scholar Peter Enns , we explore deeper dimensions of scripture—and how our understanding of it must evolve alongside us. Together, Ilia and Pete examine how the Bible is often misused as a political and cultural tool, and they ask: Can scripture still offer wisdom in a world facing ecological collapse, moral polarization, and spiritua...

Hunger for Wholeness is back with a brand new season—and we’re beginning with a deep and timely conversation about one the most timeless texts. In this season-opening episode, Ilia Delio speaks with biblical scholar and bestselling author Peter Enns. Known for his accessible, thoughtful takes on scripture, Pete invites us to rethink how we read the Bible in a world shaped by science, technology, a...

How to Pursue Religious Depth with John D. Caputo (Part 2) In our final episode of this season, Ilia Delio asks philosopher-theologian Jack Caputo more about religious depth in light of what he calls weak theology. Plus, Jack compares AI to angelology, and Ilia asks how theo-poetics can help us respond to the challenges posed by technology and the crises of our day. ABOUT JOHN D. CAPUTO “The name...

Ilia Delio sits down with philosopher-theologian John D. Saputo (Jack). Ilia asks Jack about how he got from Continental Philosophy to what he calls weak theology, and theo-poetics. Then they tackle the big, enduring question Jack and Ilia like to often ask—what is going on “in the name of God?” and why it might benefit us to stop talking about “God.” ABOUT JOHN D. CAPUTO “The name of God is the n...

When Wholeness Arrives with Bayo Akomolafe (Part 2) Ilia Delio and Bayo Akomolafe continue their conversation about navigating the legacy of modernity and our journey into the future as a species. Bayo shares his perspective on the legacies of ingenious thought—particularly how it’s seen from the West. They ask, whether we ever arrive at wholeness? And what, if anything, does politics have to do w...

How (Post-)Humans Evolve with Bayo Akomolafe (Part 1) Ilia Delio is joined by the prolific writer and activist Bayo Akomolafe. Bayo shares with us about his Christian background, growing up as the son of a diplomat in Nigeria. Ilia asks Bayo about how he has uniquely wrestled with the legacy of modernity and Western thought and his own unique approach to process and post-humanist thought. ABOUT BA...

How to Write a Catechism for AIs with Kevin Kelly (Part 4) In the final part of this four-part series, futurist Kevin Kelly asks Ilia Delio to propose a catechism for AIs. Likewise, they discuss what our relationships with the AIs of the future might look like—love? Companionship? Ilia asks what these new relationships teach us about ourselves, the cosmos, or even, God and Kevin imagines what woul...

Can AIs and Global Myths Make Us Better Humans with Kevin Kelly (Part 3) Ilia Delio brings religion into focus in the third of her four-part series with futurist Kevin Kelly. Ilia outlines her own, cutting-edge perspective to get Kevin’s views on Teilhard, diversity, and the possibility of global convergence or even new religions. They discuss whether we need a new, global myth, and Kevin imagines...

How to Face the Future with Kevin Kelly (Part 2) In part two of this four part series, Ilia Delio and Kevin Kelly discuss the potential social and economic impacts of AIs–whether these fears are founded, and where there is hope it will enhance our global unity. Plus, Kevin answers why he helped found Wired magazine, and how he’s learned to face the future. ABOUT KEVIN KELLY “Humans are the reprodu...

How AIs are Children and Mirrors with Kevin Kelly (Part 1) In the first part of this special four part series, Ilia Delio learns more about Wired founding editor and futurist Kevin Kelly’s story with technology. It begins with his world travel in the 70s seeing impacts and possibilities of computer technology on human life. Ilia asks more about this background, and Kevin shares with us his theory...

Do Science, Black Theology and AI Mix with Dr. Reggie Williams (Part 2) In the second part of this two-part interview, Ilia Delio speaks with Dr. Reggie Williams about just that black theology. From her Teilhardian perspective, Ilia asks Reggie about the interaction between faith and science, and in particular, how evolution, diversity and technology work together in his theology. Finally, Ilia as...

What (Black) Bonhoeffer Might Say Today with Dr. Reggie Williams (Part 1) Ilia Delio welcomes Dr. Reggie Williams, the newly appointed Associate Professor of Black Theology at St Louis University, to unpack the life, work of Dietrich Bonhoeffer. Bonhoeffer’s legacy continues to touch today’s major issues—racism, religious nationalism, political action, and human suffering. Ilia and Reggie discuss...

How the World Could Use a Sabbath with Rabbi Bradley S. Artson (Part 2) In the second part of this very special conversation, Ilia Delio and Rabbi Bradley Artson tackle everything from life after death, to concerns about technology and AI. Rabbi Artson shares with us how everyone could benefit from a Sabbath practice, and how Judaism offers ancient insights uncoupled from Western assumptions. ABOU...

What We Mean When We Talk About “God” with Rabbi Bradley S. Artson (Part 1) In part one of their conversation Ilia Delio speaks with Rabbi Bradley S. Artson, writer and Jewish process thinker. Rabbi Artson tells us about his journey from atheism to a love for God and describes how process theology helped to reawaken his appreciation for science, shedding light on religious experience. Plus, Ilia a...

Why AI Optimism and Our Values can Synergize with Francis Heylighen (Part 2) In the second part of their conversation, Ilia Delio asks Francis Heylighen “what values do we need to focus on to guide this global transformation?” Professor Heylighen tells us why he’s optimistic about AI, and “why” synergy exists in our universe at all.  ABOUT FRANCIS HEYLIGHEN “The ever-faster evolution of science, t...

How All this Complexity is Unified with Francis Heylighen (Part 1) Ilia Delio talks with cyberneticist Francis Heylighen. In part one of their conversation, Ilia asks Francis about his interest in complexity theory, and the basics of complex systems as they appear in our society and world. How does complexity theory inform the big problems of our age? Ilia and Francis discuss whether this school o...

Finding Consciousness at the Heart of it All with Neil Theise (Part 2) Episode Description In part two, Ilia Delio and Neil Theise unpack the implications of complexity theory for human life, especially consciousness, our technology and the relationship between them. Can AI become “conscious?” Neil tells us more about his journey as a practicing Zen Buddhist, its impact on his research and thought...

How Deep Down the Complexity Goes with Neil Theise (Part 1) In the first part of their conversation Ilia Delio asks stem cell researcher and author, Neil Theise, about this journey from science to complexity theory. Ilia and Neil ask big questions about how deep the complexity goes—is there something at the bottom of it all? And what can complexity theories teach us about our modern systems of lif...

“How Fear Arrested Our Theological Imagination with Fr. Dan Horan” (Part 2) In part two of their discussion Ilia Delio asks Fr. Dan Horan about the way forward, and how fear arrests our theological imaginations. They discuss whether it will be possible to reimagine some of the most central tenets of Christian doctrine, especially in the case of the more centralized churches. In light of today’s cu...

What Thomas Merton Would Say Today with Fr. Dan Horan (Part 1) Ilia Delio interviews Fr. Dan Horan, professor of Philosophy, Religious Studies and Theology at Saint Mary’s College and author of Engaging Thomas Merton: Spirituality, Justice, and Racism . Ilia asks Dan how he became interested in Thomas Merton, and what relevant insights he believes the teachers of yesterday have for us today in the...

Will There Ever Be Conscious AI with Philip Goff (Part 2) In part 2 of their interview, Ilia Delio and Philip Goff continue their conversation about consciousness and how science and theology can better work together to understand it. Together, Ilia and Philip tackle the burning question, “will AI ever become conscious?” ABOUT PHILIP GOFF “Here’s a prediction: In twenty years’ time, the idea that...

Ilia Delio interviews philosopher and author Philip Goff on the big questions of consciousness. What is it? And how does modern panpsychism explain the relationship between consciousness and matter? Ilia and Philip also discuss how consciousness exposes where science and religion need to work in a more interdisciplinary manner to continue furthering our quest for human knowledge. ABOUT PHILIP GOFF...

Building on their conversation in Part 1, Ilia Delio and Bruce Epperly unpack what it means to see the divine in the other. They discuss the need for sacrificial living and a return to some of the basic practices of global spiritual traditions. Bruce tells us how these ideas affect his understanding of his own privilege, and how process theology can help us build better relationships in our commun...

Ilia Delio is joined by process theologian Bruce Epperly for an honest conversation looking at the divisiveness at work in our communities and politics. Bruce gives an introduction to process theology (or process relational theology) and together they unpack how the basic conceptual shifts promoted by process theology can help to heal our communities and guide our interactions with people who chal...